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[Impulse and Compulse]

>Rivaled only by Javelin in weight
>Has to spin up
>Recoil worse than the hurricane
>Runs through ammo like it's nothing

Yeah, definitely needs to be nerfed.

[Serval-O]

It's so awesome it has to eject the excess awesome via shell casings while you fire.

[Major_Kong]

I hate the four shot staccato before you get to full auto. A lot of bad things can happen in that time frame. The harrier or revenant are better bets.

[Xaijin]

ghostbooty wrote...

So, I've been buying Spectre Packs like crazy lately. I have the Ultra Rare N7 Typhoon at level 7 now. Its an amazing weapon. I use it frequently in Silver games with the lvl 5 Extended Magazine and lvl 5 Stability Dampener. I also use lvl 3 or lvl 4 Armor Piercing Ammo with it, as well. The gun just shreds everything it hits. It takes down Atlases faster than the Reegar Carbine with the Shredder Mod. It does the same to Banshees, Phantoms, and Geth Primes. It almost seems unfair to use this weapon. Granted, I'm extremely happy that there is finally an Assault Rifle worth a darn. Although, I'd hardly call it an Assault Rifle. Its really a Light Machine Gun. I tell everybody to use it if they get the chance. Even at level 2 it was a beast. I'm almost afraid to see how good it is at level 10, when I eventually get it there.

Anybody else have any comments on the N7 Typhoon? Is it too good or just right? I like it the way it is and hope they don't change it. However, I know the "nerf everything" crowd probably adamantly thinks otherwise.


Thanks,
-Matt C.-

Awesome props on passive agressive stance.

"I sure hope they don't nerf but here's a giant paragraph with a baiting thread title."

You forgot the picture of a giant eyed baby cartoon rabbit to protest your innocence.

Modifié par Xaijin, 23 juillet 2012 - 08:43 .

[SoulWeaver]

I really like the Typhoon on a Human Soldier. It destroys everything, even on Gold (havent tried plat yet). It's really heavy, so I can't imagine any classes that rely on powers using it and that seems fair, since the power combos scale with the enemie's health, while gun damage doesn't.

[Pantyhose Nylonlady]

Yeah-yeah, Typhoon VII with ammo powers on silver... Such a waste... Its like take out candy from kids. I'm rocking with my Harrier on Silver too even without ammo consumables but its not the case to make thread out of it. At least dont get people angry because many players dont have even Typhoon I.

[HairyCallahan]

I think it's balanced quite well actually. It is a complete beast though, I get great scores with in on Gold with the Stabilization and the Barrel on the soldier class..

[fanning]

 biowares watching *uh hi bioware dont listen to him the typhoon is weak*
but that acolyte needs a nerf

[gsrm redneck]

Metal Vile wrote...

Obviously a powerful weapon. Too powerful? Maybe, but I'm sure some people will make the argument that "It's an UR, it should be over-powered!!". Personally, I disagree; while it should have some advantages compared to other guns, it should not clearly invalidate close to 50% of the other weapons in its class.

Didnt the phalanx pistol already invalidate OVER 50% of the other weapons in its class?just sayin.....

[iplay222]

Hope it doesn't get nerfed before i get it, ill probably get my Black widow X or Javelin IX instead though -.-

[Tronar]

I agree that the Typhoon is the first Assault Rifle realling feeling like it's worth taking the heavy weight penalty. The other ARs are either quite lightweight (like the Phaeston or the Geth AR) or the weight is not worth the minor increase in damage. But the Typhoon finally makes playing a soldier a fun thing.

Before I didn't really like to play any of the soldiert classes, because I like using the many powers.

And I don't think it makes sense to use the Typhoon on most of the other classes. The weight just kills any resonable playstyle because of the long cooldown period.

So for me the Typhoon is THE weapon on the new N7 Destroyer.

And I hope all those "nerf it!" cryers have used it on Platinum. Any decent weapon full of Level V mods on a good class feels overpowered in silver. That's no reason to ask for a nerf. You need some powerful stuff to be able to deal with Platinum.

[MrFuddyDuddy]

No OP's right god forbid we have a decent AR that's remotely usable on gold. Let's just make it a 120 shot avenger with worse recoil than the Revenant. I mean after all it is an UR, which usually have the habit of being sub-standard compared to some uncommons

[ka243]

Its basically only good on the devastator or something else with accuracy bonus and its an ultrarare! So no its not too good and please dont make threads like this.

[ElementL09]

Its good on the Devastator and Turian Soldier. Even though it has alot of ammo, I do have to run back and forth between ammo crates, and I fire it from cover for better accurancy. Its an ultra rare weapon so it suppose to be good.

[Metal Vile]

HinDae wrote...

The nerfers are crying again.

Its a UR. UR = meant to be powerful.

You must expose yourself that much longer to get it to max damage.

Its fine, stop whining.

No, this is possibly the second most ridiculous thing I see people say around here, right after "Nothing should ever be nerfed because this is a co-op game".

Weapon rarities are not meant to be directly indicitive of weapon strength; they simply exist to create structure to the weapon system and give an excuse to lengthen the time necessary to get everything out of the Skinner-box system that is the Store.

I'm not saying Ultra Rares shouldn't be strong.  They definitely should, to justify the time and cost of getting them.  But they should not be so good that they invalidate other weapons.  Why is this such a difficult idea to absorb?  Do you hate weapons soley based on their rarity?  Do you really not care about having more than 7-8 weapons be viable choices?

Modifié par Metal Vile, 23 juillet 2012 - 12:00 .

[ElementL09]

Metal Vile wrote...
 But they should not be so good that they invalidate other weapons. 

Commons, uncommons, rares and ultra rares.

If you had a Harrier, Saber or Mattock X would ever use an Avenger X?

[Metal Vile]

ElementL09 wrote...

Metal Vile wrote...
 But they should not be so good that they invalidate other weapons. 

Commons, uncommons, rares and ultra rares.

If you had a Harrier, Saber or Mattock X would ever use an Avenger X?

If it was a decent weapon that was light, reloaded quickly, and was good for bursting down mooks in enclosed areas.....  yes, yes I would.

But it's not quite good enough yet, therefore it needs a bit more buffing. 

And don't say to just use a Carnifex; not everyone has the same preferences in weapon styles.
Having as many choices as possible be viable will always be better than having 5-6 weapons that dominate, and 30 weapons that are useless.  This is why balancing is good, as long as it's done responsibly. 

People only want to protect the new weapons because they're new and shiny; everyone is afraid a change of any kind will "ruin them forever".  Mindless group think and clinging to things that make your life easier.  The Harrier got a weight adjustment, which everyone cried about at the time; but look, it's STILL A GREAT GUN.

The Falcon got a significant nerf back in the day (perhaps a bit heavy handed), but it remains a useful weapon for its mechanics functions.  It's possible to reduce something and not ruin it. 

[MrFuddyDuddy]

If you have a Phaeston X would you use and Avenger X you mean? Honestly but OP's logic everything should be nerfed so that the BW is no better than the Viper you know cause there both semi auto's and let's just make the Claymore as weak as the wraith, and give the Paladin a good 50/60% drop in damage so its like a 3 shot Phalanx. Items are suppose to get gradually better as there rarity increase's, not oh I finally got my Harrier X after investing about a hundred hours and 300 PSP, but I'm gunna use my Vindicator which took me 15 minutes to max because it preforms about as well. What sense does that make?

Modifié par MrFuddyDuddy, 23 juillet 2012 - 12:19 .

[-Sxx-]

People keep going on about the recoil. What the hell? Like I don't really want this gun to be touched so I'm scared of mentioning this but seriously, what the hell? Does the Demolisher automatically reduce recoil in weapons? I say this because when I use the Typhoon recoil isn't much of an issue at all. It's so manageable.

[mrwizeguy]

MrFuddyDuddy wrote...

If you have a Phaeston X would you use and Avenger X you mean? Honestly bu OP;s logic everything should be nerfed so that the BW is no better than the Viper you know cause there both semi auto's and let's just make the Claymore as weak as the wraith, and gice the Paladin a good 50/60% drop in damage so its like a 3 shot Phalanx. Items are suppose to get gradually better as there rarity increase's, not oh I finally got my Harrier X after investing about a hundred hours and 300 PSP, but I'm gunna use my Vindicator whih took me 15 minutes to max because it preforms about as well. What sense does that make?

It makes sense to the casuals that deep  inside know they will never get to see a harrier X not even in a million years because they dont want to spend any cash or are good enough players to do it in a reasonable ammount of time playing the highest reward dificulty of the game.

Conclution . jealusy

Because i cant have it NOBODY SHOULD , right?

[Arppis]

Try it vs Geth.

It sucks vs anything that can stagger you, you are COMPLETELY stunlocked with Typhoon.

Good thing I got concusion shot, so I can stagger back. And gun doesn't have recoil... imo. It just has WIDE spread.

Modifié par Arppis, 23 juillet 2012 - 12:27 .

[MrFuddyDuddy]

Honestly it seems that way sometimes. Because you know if someone can't have a Typhoon X it shouldn't be able to out preform a Revanant X because that be unfair, because they can't invest the time and or money to unlock the items for them selfs. OP states himself to be a casual silver player so obviously some guns are going to complete dominate, try the Typhoon on a none destroyer on Platinum and get roflstomped by just about everything...

[Metal Vile]

I'm sorry, what are you talking about now?

"Casuals who know they will never get the weapon, and therefore want it to be terribly so they don't feel bad for never getting it."

Wtf kind of logic is that? Who thinks that, beyond an child who hates when other people have better toys than them?

The weapon is VERY strong, but also quite heavy, as many have noted.  I don't really think it needs much of a change, if anything.  Perhaps a tweak to the special abilities such as the ramping damage or RoF effects, such as making them take slightly longer to kick in.  Other than that, I think it's a good weapon.  My main issue is only that it has SO MANY good traits at the same time.

Modifié par Metal Vile, 23 juillet 2012 - 12:32 .