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"SO BE IT, the cycle continues..." - "No, it does not"


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Ironhandjustice

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To start, I'm speaking of "what you want to see/mod".

Well, It has long been said that the star kid choices are the only ones that will be given to us, so in this line, I want to suggest a "clarification" for the refusal.

Is suposed that Sheppard is uploaded to the citadel core after anderson's death, so, technically the breath scene is a "return to his body" thing.

Assumed all of this, what happens to sheppard when "the cycle continues?"

My suggestion, both for modding or bioware (and yes, you can take my money for this) is that if you have enought EMS strength (for example, 5000), when you choose to refuse, the following script appears.

-SO BE IT. THE CICLE CONTINUES.
-No, it doesn't.

After that, sheppard opens his eyes and see CHARACTER (see bellow), CHARACTER, says that he was unconscious, and that he doesn't know how, but sheppard has overriden the lockdown over crucible console, so he can fire the crucible.

Sheppard, of course, warns him about the catalyst, but the other says that the avalailable data indicates that the crucible will shut down the mass effect field cores (of a certain size) of everything around for hours. What does this means?

-Reapers will be killed. All of them (minus the abominations) are uploaded to a sigle core starship. Shut down its evil hearts, and they will die. Perhaps some of them can survive, but this will lead to a conventional victory.
-Geth will be partially destroyed. The ones uploaded to mobile platforms will be safe, and the ones connected to dependant devices will be erased.
-Edi will survive, mutilated into her body (if you choose to keep she inside the ship she will die, of course), and having limited functions forever.
-All starships will be without life support for several hours, until mass effects cores will be restored. Some people will die, but, the damage will be minor.

CHARACTER has discovered that the catalyst was malfuctioning, and seems that there is a big problem with mass effect fields, that will be the next challenge for the galaxy. The mass effect fields are damaging the galaxy grid, and the reapers were originally thought to avoid this, but their main programation was altered, and they started to believe that their mission was only harvest civilizations instead of stopping the process.(Dark energy plot)

CHARACTER will be killed, but sheppard survives.

Appendix:

CHARACTER for you, can be:

-Captain bayley (if him, please make him blind of one eye)
-Marauder Shields (for lolz, but if him, please say that he IS Nihlus)
-Avina (surprise, she actually is an IA, that is hiding for organics, but she wants to co-exist in peace with her creators)
-Other secondary character.


Thoughts?

(And, as always, I understand that my writing is awfull, but not my mother language :?)

Modifié par Ironhandjustice, 23 juillet 2012 - 12:01 .


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Adugan

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Avina is Internal Affairs?

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Adugan wrote...

Avina is Internal Affairs?


She is only one possibility, what do you need to kill an IA. Just another IA.B)

By the way, my favourite choice for the CHARACTER role is Bayley. In realistic mode,

Marauder Shields will be also cool as hell :wub:

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Well, you cant mod ME3. So your idea was a wasted effort

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Adugan wrote...

Well, you cant mod ME3. So your idea was a wasted effort


You mean "yet".

It will be possible one day. So much nerdrage out there, and as I can say you it will not be "legal", some people will do it sooner or later.

I have found at least three different groups trying to reverse-engeneer it in order to make free DLCs...

I personally prefer if bioware takes this idea and charge us for it. I'll pay 15 bucks for it, and allows them to make a sequel. If you think, the only difference would be "green eyes", because reapers can just dissapear again, self-destroy, or anything you want...

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Ironhandjustice wrote...

Adugan wrote...

Well, you cant mod ME3. So your idea was a wasted effort


You mean "yet".

It will be possible one day. So much nerdrage out there, and as I can say you it will not be "legal", some people will do it sooner or later.

I have found at least three different groups trying to reverse-engeneer it in order to make free DLCs...

I personally prefer if bioware takes this idea and charge us for it. I'll pay 15 bucks for it, and allows them to make a sequel. If you think, the only difference would be "green eyes", because reapers can just dissapear again, self-destroy, or anything you want...


Think what you want, but official patching tools will never happen because the ME3 engine is lisenced off another company and that company doesnt want mod tools. So not going to happen officially. Unofficially, I wouldnt bet on it

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It would have to effect the whole galaxy. The Reapers at Earth aren't the only ones. If it only effected the ones nearby, then yes they would all be destroyed, but the other Reapers would just swoop in and finish off everyone else.

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Adugan wrote...

Ironhandjustice wrote...

Adugan wrote...

Well, you cant mod ME3. So your idea was a wasted effort


You mean "yet".

It will be possible one day. So much nerdrage out there, and as I can say you it will not be "legal", some people will do it sooner or later.

I have found at least three different groups trying to reverse-engeneer it in order to make free DLCs...

I personally prefer if bioware takes this idea and charge us for it. I'll pay 15 bucks for it, and allows them to make a sequel. If you think, the only difference would be "green eyes", because reapers can just dissapear again, self-destroy, or anything you want...


Think what you want, but official patching tools will never happen because the ME3 engine is lisenced off another company and that company doesnt want mod tools. So not going to happen officially. Unofficially, I wouldnt bet on it


I have heard yhis a thousand times with a dozen games. Search for the most popular games everytime, and all of them have mods, total conversions, and things like that.

I can put you as example "Dark Corners of The Earth". A cool game, very buggy, and only in english. I know (in person) the people who made the traslation to spanish. The code was closed, and one engeneer reversed it for them, they changed the translation, fixed a couple bugs, and voila.
The engeneer also reverted the "developer trainer", a tool that allowed to save in pc where you want. In the original game, you had to save the game only on "stupid savepoints on the walls".

Now, the game is very cool, and I can play it subtitled on my (or any) language.

Sooner or later it will be aired something to mod ME3. I repeat that I DON'T want this to happen, and prefer that bioware airs this as part of another DLC.

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Akruze wrote...

It would have to effect the whole galaxy. The Reapers at Earth aren't the only ones. If it only effected the ones nearby, then yes they would all be destroyed, but the other Reapers would just swoop in and finish off everyone else.


Yup, the idea is the same as the crucible is. Instead of a "kill all sinthetics device", thinking it as a magnetic pulse hyper-canon.

Some reapers (not more than a dozen) scape? well, is a problem, but I think that a dozen of genocidal machines is so much easy to kill that 3 or 4 thousands...

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Hahaha, oh boy, that was terrible.

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iron hand justice is either Italian or latino

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crimzontearz wrote...

iron hand justice is either Italian or latino


Nope, I'm spanish.

Not the same as "latino" xD

On the other hand, I can speak italian for you if you want. What's wrong with this?

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I'd prefer it if, after the ''so be it', Shepard doesn't just sit down and twiddle his thumbs but instead fights on and tries to disable the catalyst. with the catalyst disabled the reapers lose their co-ordination and higher functions...

then EMS comes into play, less than 3000 the reapers still destroy fleet, 3000-4500 reapers take heavy casualties and withdraw from the sol system, Harby unites with other reaper forces and the war continues for decades while this cycle is victorious the cost is high. more than 4500, the reaper forces are annihilated at the sol system, Harby gets away and unites with the other reapers but they don't have the number to press on, they flee to dark space after a few years.

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flanny wrote...

I'd prefer it if, after the ''so be it', Shepard doesn't just sit down and twiddle his thumbs but instead fights on and tries to disable the catalyst. with the catalyst disabled the reapers lose their co-ordination and higher functions...

then EMS comes into play, less than 3000 the reapers still destroy fleet, 3000-4500 reapers take heavy casualties and withdraw from the sol system, Harby unites with other reaper forces and the war continues for decades while this cycle is victorious the cost is high. more than 4500, the reaper forces are annihilated at the sol system, Harby gets away and unites with the other reapers but they don't have the number to press on, they flee to dark space after a few years.


Is another version, with full-convetional victory plot. For me, it could be fine.:)

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Ironhandjustice wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

iron hand justice is either Italian or latino


Nope, I'm spanish.

Not the same as "latino" xD

On the other hand, I can speak italian for you if you want. What's wrong with this?


Nothing at all, I am Italian (and if you say Hispanic around here people take offense....anyway)...your achronyn for Artificial intelligence is IA...so it is for me


 
For English speaking people it's AI

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crimzontearz wrote...

Ironhandjustice wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

iron hand justice is either Italian or latino


Nope, I'm spanish.

Not the same as "latino" xD

On the other hand, I can speak italian for you if you want. What's wrong with this?


Nothing at all, I am Italian (and if you say Hispanic around here people take offense....anyway)...your achronyn for Artificial intelligence is IA...so it is for me


 
For English speaking people it's AI


To be honest, you caught me :innocent:. Our languages are pretty similar.

I still don't understand why peope feel "hispanic" like offesive term... whatever.

Regards!

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Not sure quite honestly but they do...

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Hahaha, oh boy, that was terrible.


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comrade gando wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Hahaha, oh boy, that was terrible.


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You just made my day :D

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trying to derail?

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Grubas wrote...

trying to derail?


It seems they want the thread to die.

I think this focusing on the ending is not bad idea, but fantrolls will fantroll.

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The tech here is a bit confused.

Mass effect cores don't provide power. They consume power to generate the mass effect field that lets you move. Life support would be unaffected.

There's no reason turning the core off for a bit would kill the Reaper. Unless it's positioned so it would fall into a star if the engine fails, like the one in the Reaper IFF mission. Presumably a certain portion of the Reapers over Earth would not be in proper orbits and so would crash.

It's not at all clear why this would kill geth, EDI, or any other AIs. You're targeting a technology that has nothing to do with them.

I also think the whole thing is a terrible idea, but since I don't particularly care what happens in a mod I'm not really concerned with that.

Modifié par AlanC9, 23 juillet 2012 - 05:43 .