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[bunnylover]

Nuisance78 wrote...

I think some of you just need to start playing different games.

On second thought, you might be right.  Maybe I'll need to withdraw my own statement.

[Stardusk]

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

A: You assessment is ultimately wrong

B: You should be a master of the class you are bringing in.

I personally take my revenant gi into platinum and can carry the team if need be, i do not like doing so and do not let one in on my game when i know they arent up their weight

But i can also use any other of the classes that do fit my playstyle into platinum and either score well if not top while ensuring it goes smooth (right now am finding the ideal shadow build for me to get her into plat like her sticky/cryobombing sister)

All while unlike many have only 1 gun that is powerfull and capable enough for my playstyle, the revenant, the harrier blows below 4 in plat, and the paladin, my sidearm of choice i cannot seem to ever get out of a pack

And only 1 ur like every 15 plat extractions blows

The GI is one of those 'Platinum Viable' classes. It has nothing to do with mastery or non-mastery. A Krogan Soldier will not do well on Platinum compared to a GI. The Shadow will never out DPS a GI, the Shadow is the fun Infiltrator, not the DPS one. Sure you can beat Platinum with non-DPS classes but it is not as viable.

[Krantzstone]

Maybe they should make some unit types that can only be killed via melee/close quarters combat. Maybe a unit that can't instakill but can't be shot from afar either (and can't be lured into an instagrab). Due to instakill, there are unfortunately too many dangers to melee combat to make it much fun or entirely feasible on higher difficulty levels.

[AmicusHumaniGeneris]

A lot of people requested a game mode where they could take on all factions and bosses in a single match. Now, there's an option for these people to go out and have fun with it. Not everything in a game needs to be as fun for everyone; most likely you'd make it boring for everyone involved with such a strategy.

Modifié par AmicusHumaniGeneris, 23 juillet 2012 - 08:35 .

[hippojoe]

platinum is really easy. every ga me i play its as if my teammates are shooting missiles instead of bullets

[hippojoe]

AmicusHumaniGeneris wrote...

A lot of people requested a game mode where they could take on all factions and bosses in a single match. Now, there's an option for these people to go out and have fun with it. Not everything in a game needs to be as fun for everyone; most likely you'd make it boring for everyone involved with such a strategy.

they could just amde an "all faction" option when choosing enemy type

then we could have mixed enemies on gold/silver/bronze, which would be cool

[R-Oak]

i have been playing platinum since day 1 whit success doing alot of quick runs on glacier ( not camping in that room )

it was fun the first 3-4 days .. but then ...
this game MP is lacking content and platinum doesnt really help it ... gold you had choise to fight 3 factions,
now you have 1 faction (geth cerberous reaper ) on platinum is pretty much 1 big melting pot
and .. platinum forces your hand to play top tier caracter 
( GI whit piranha ) im looking at you 

but then again .. i guess this game was great, i enjoyed the SP game, and i played the MP quite alot .. now... i find myself bored and waiting for borderland 2

Modifié par R-Oak, 23 juillet 2012 - 09:18 .

[Megakoresh]

Well, the MP has much potential, if it didn't there wound't be so many people talking about it. If BioWare realize what they need to do to keep it up, it could become the best thing in coop multiplayer since L4D2. It's the gameplay-side content that is missing and creating these issues with difficulty. There simply isn't enough depth to it. The new dynamic mission was a great idea but we need much more steps in that direction.

Single player was, sadly, a failure anyway, might as well advance what you did well. The metagame (aside from balance), is already great. If the action is expanded, that will solve many problems, methinks.

Modifié par Megakoresh, 23 juillet 2012 - 09:27 .

[mrcanada]

UserUnknown85 wrote...

Krogan sentinel has never been all that hot on gold, at least not if you were playing against geth...

A lot of builds/weapons are already subpar on gold, it just is a little more so on platinum.

If all you care about is winning as fast and as easy as possible, you can do the same on gold... However, we rarely see all GI teams, so your statements are invalid...

Not true and Krogan Sentinel is/was very good.  Platinum is much different than gold and much less fun.

[Archie-Scott]

The N7 Infiltrator is most certainly not useless. I use it all the time, you just have to be skillful with the Shadow Strikes and be able to run fast. I get to wave 10 most of the time, and get occasional extractions with it. Being able to 2 shot Phantoms without getting hit is great.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Platinum is just nonstop bosses with a few elites thrown in. Sure you can gett killed in like 2 hits by anything but for the most part you just control the bosses and you control the game.

So far I find gold a lot more fun.

PS. Whoever said krogan aren't viable on gold, all I can say is "lol". My batarian soldier and krogan sentinel are melee monsters on gold.

[upinya slayin]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Platinum is just nonstop bosses with a few elites thrown in. Sure you can gett killed in like 2 hits by anything but for the most part you just control the bosses and you control the game.

So far I find gold a lot more fun.

PS. Whoever said krogan aren't viable on gold, all I can say is "lol". My batarian soldier and krogan sentinel are melee monsters on gold.

If you can take down bosses quickly i prefer platinum to gold since gold has tons of auraders. I'd rather fight 2 mauraders and 6 banhsees tehn vice versa. maurders on gold are OP and if your in the open and more then 1 has an eye on you, your done

[LadyAlekto]

Stardusk wrote...

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

A: You assessment is ultimately wrong

B: You should be a master of the class you are bringing in.

I personally take my revenant gi into platinum and can carry the team if need be, i do not like doing so and do not let one in on my game when i know they arent up their weight

But i can also use any other of the classes that do fit my playstyle into platinum and either score well if not top while ensuring it goes smooth (right now am finding the ideal shadow build for me to get her into plat like her sticky/cryobombing sister)

All while unlike many have only 1 gun that is powerfull and capable enough for my playstyle, the revenant, the harrier blows below 4 in plat, and the paladin, my sidearm of choice i cannot seem to ever get out of a pack

And only 1 ur like every 15 plat extractions blows

The GI is one of those 'Platinum Viable' classes. It has nothing to do with mastery or non-mastery. A Krogan Soldier will not do well on Platinum compared to a GI. The Shadow will never out DPS a GI, the Shadow is the fun Infiltrator, not the DPS one. Sure you can beat Platinum with non-DPS classes but it is not as viable.

And now considering that you and many others like to keep saying my gi build is total nonsense and absolutely bullcrap...............

[Homey C-Dawg]

upinya slayin wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Platinum is just nonstop bosses with a few elites thrown in. Sure you can gett killed in like 2 hits by anything but for the most part you just control the bosses and you control the game.

So far I find gold a lot more fun.

PS. Whoever said krogan aren't viable on gold, all I can say is "lol". My batarian soldier and krogan sentinel are melee monsters on gold.

If you can take down bosses quickly i prefer platinum to gold since gold has tons of auraders. I'd rather fight 2 mauraders and 6 banhsees tehn vice versa. maurders on gold are OP and if your in the open and more then 1 has an eye on you, your done

I suppose it's personal preference. Marauders shooting at me from all angles is much more exciting to me than being chased by over 9000 banshees.

[Booshnickins]

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

YOU GET WHAT YOU ASK FOR. You are limited to play it a certain way because of difficulty right? You wanted it hard well you got it. If you want new modes or more goals during a game ASK FOR IT. Be specific don't just throw out "Gold isn't hard enough" lesson learned.

Gold isn't very hard. However making a new mode which is basically just Gold from wave 12-on with stupid amounts of Banshees each wave was very lazy on BioWares part.

When people asked for a new difficulty and more variety of enemies, this is NOT what they meant.

[PsychoticBiotic]

Agreed 100%. It kind of boring, actually. Banshee spam is more annoying than challenging.

[Stardusk]

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

A: You assessment is ultimately wrong

B: You should be a master of the class you are bringing in.

I personally take my revenant gi into platinum and can carry the team if need be, i do not like doing so and do not let one in on my game when i know they arent up their weight

But i can also use any other of the classes that do fit my playstyle into platinum and either score well if not top while ensuring it goes smooth (right now am finding the ideal shadow build for me to get her into plat like her sticky/cryobombing sister)

All while unlike many have only 1 gun that is powerfull and capable enough for my playstyle, the revenant, the harrier blows below 4 in plat, and the paladin, my sidearm of choice i cannot seem to ever get out of a pack

And only 1 ur like every 15 plat extractions blows

The GI is one of those 'Platinum Viable' classes. It has nothing to do with mastery or non-mastery. A Krogan Soldier will not do well on Platinum compared to a GI. The Shadow will never out DPS a GI, the Shadow is the fun Infiltrator, not the DPS one. Sure you can beat Platinum with non-DPS classes but it is not as viable.

And now considering that you and many others like to keep saying my gi build is total nonsense and absolutely bullcrap...............

Pardon me? I only know you by reputation (you refused my friend request after all), but I am quite certain I have never used terms such total nonsense or absolutely bullcrap....

[Captain Funky Blimp]

I agree entirely. I wish I could find a way to beat it other than camping with high DPS characters, but I can't. The result is a protracted, tedious gameplay experience that I don't much care to repeat. Don't get me wrong, I love the credits, but the experience of taking a defensive position every time and just endlessly blasting away at bosses gets old quick. It's a chore. Gold is far more fun to play and you can play just about any character you want as long as you're reasonably good at it, have good equipment, and a decent team.

[LinksOcarina]

Yeah I actually agree, the mode feels a bit contrived in its design. There is no real buildup or pay off, it's just a mode for people to survive 3 waves without cheating.

Honestly, they need to tone down Platinum a bit and make it more engaging. Maybe make the first 6 waves all alternating groups of enemies, from grunts to bosses, then the rest of the waves boss characters mixed in some form with grunts.

It at least makes it more balanced and forces players to adapt to the enemies' fighting style and tactics. But thats my idea personally at least.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

And now considering that you and many others like to keep saying my gi build is total nonsense and absolutely bullcrap...............

What's your build?

[.458]

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

YOU GET WHAT YOU ASK FOR. You are limited to play it a certain way because of difficulty right? You wanted it hard well you got it. If you want new modes or more goals during a game ASK FOR IT. Be specific don't just throw out "Gold isn't hard enough" lesson learned.

I've asked many times. I'd like to see the full retaking of the citadel, using the map already available from single player...each area can go to the next instead of extracting. Same for the Mars station and a number of other places. So many maps already exist which are more than standing in one place (one map). I'd love to see objectives on every wave, and perhaps even objectives which span map areas.

[Taritu]

My solution: play gold. Much more fun, as others have noted, and the credits come fast enough, imo.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Captain Funky Blimp wrote...

I agree entirely. I wish I could find a way to beat it other than camping with high DPS characters, but I can't. The result is a protracted, tedious gameplay experience that I don't much care to repeat. Don't get me wrong, I love the credits, but the experience of taking a defensive position every time and just endlessly blasting away at bosses gets old quick. It's a chore. Gold is far more fun to play and you can play just about any character you want as long as you're reasonably good at it, have good equipment, and a decent team.

Try the Shadow. She has great survivability on platinum if your good with her cloak and SS. It's annoying that you can't OHK anything, but at least you get to run all over the map disrupting enemies focus and doing a good deal of damage while your at it as oppose to camping with massive DPS (which I too find boring).

[megabeast37215]

You don't HAVE to camp on Platinum, but it makes things easier. I actually really enjoy when the line gets broken and we all have to run for our lives... but then again, I don't play super high DPS AOE stagger classes like that dirty rotten hooker the GI w/ Krysae. I have alot more fun playing middle of the road classes, than doing it with super high DPS classes and spawn raping with grenades is BORING.

I really think all the grenade chucking in this game has gotten out of hand... and with Grenade Gear V, it's even more OP. Since the inception of Arc Grenades and Grenade Gear, alot of classes that don't have huge AOE attacks have fallen by the wayside... and that's sad. It's even more sad that Bioware seems fine with it. What's the point of having a challenging game mode if you're going to allow every noob with a Demolisher to drop 8-12 grenades on the spawns? It's really really stupid IMO... and it makes every class without grenades second rate except Infiltrators and the Turian Soldier.

But I don't care...I'm not gonna sell out and use those cheap ass prostitute classes. I'll keep running Engineers, Sentinels, Biotics, whatever... but I'm not following the crowd... and I will STILL win.

[UserUnknown85]

mrcanada wrote...

UserUnknown85 wrote...

Krogan sentinel has never been all that hot on gold, at least not if you were playing against geth...

A lot of builds/weapons are already subpar on gold, it just is a little more so on platinum.

If all you care about is winning as fast and as easy as possible, you can do the same on gold... However, we rarely see all GI teams, so your statements are invalid...

Not true and Krogan Sentinel is/was very good.  Platinum is much different than gold and much less fun.

I love my melee specced Krosent, but calling him good against the stunlock masters is delusional... Cerberus or reapers now, that's different, but spending half a match incapacitated by stunlock is neither fun nor efficient. Neither is spending the whole game camping in the same spot, grabbing hunters/pyros by the neck...

EDIT :

To be honest, I don't understand at all what you are all complaining about. People found gold too easy (which I can agree with) so Bioware mad a harder difficulty (for free!!!). What did you expect them to do besides upping enemy health/shields/damage, as well as the number of bosses? That's exactly what's changing frome bronze to silver to gold, isn't it? Not just that, but they did actually change more than that, and mixed up enemy factions, which makes platinum a lot more different and exciting! Could they have changed more? Possibly, but I think they did a pretty good job.

A few platinum facts, as well

Platinum can be beaten by roaming the map, just because you can't doesn't mean that it can't be done
All characters (and weapons) are viable, some are better than others, but such was always the case...
You can solo platinum
You can farm platinum
As of yet, I find that pugging platinum is very hard, this might change in the future, as people hone their skills
Platinum is harder than gold, by a wide margin, which is what everyone wanted, isn't it?

Modifié par UserUnknown85, 23 juillet 2012 - 10:46 .