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[RyanFialcowitz]

 I've always had a problem with lag when it comes to Dragon Age: Origins. The game will run fine initially but after as little as a few minutes I start to get lag. Some times it takes longer, sometimes sooner. Exiting the game or reloading a save seems to reset the clock. The lag is most noticeably during conversations where there's some movement going on. The scene will freeze for a split second and the dialog options will be very jerky in coming up. I upgraded virtually every component of my computer in order to fix this problem and yet it remains. The trials associated with that can be seen here: 
http://social.biowar...8/index/8744640. I thought it might be a mod issue but the irregularity of the lag is making tracking down a particular mod troublesome. I also thought about going S.L.I. with another graphics card- does this game support this?

My system:
AMD Phenom II X4 975 3.6Ghz
8 GB R.A.M.
NVIDIA GTX 460 With 1 GB R.A.M.
Sould Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro!
Windows 7 Ultimate 64- Bit

- Ryan Paul Fialcowitz

[Thandal N'Lyman]

nVidia has a DAO profile for SLI, but not sure that's the issue.

1. Have you installed the 1.05 patch?
2. Have you installed the latest nVdia GeForce drivers? (I'm runnig 304.48 beta with excellent results.)

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 24 juillet 2012 - 02:16 .

[RyanFialcowitz]

1.) I was considering getting a second card to go S.L.I. but I was unsure if the game supported it.

2.) Got the game through Steam so it's fully patched to 1.05- I did, however, have the exact same problem with the disk version.

3.) Just checked for updates through NVIDIA Control Panel. Right now it's at 301.42 with no updates available. Where can I get these beta drivers and would they support my card?

- Ryan Paul Fialcowitz

[RaenImrahl]

With those specs, you should be able to run the game fine. Sounds like a mod issue.

[RyanFialcowitz]

RaenImrahl wrote...

With those specs, you should be able to run the game fine. Sounds like a mod issue.

Below is a list of my currently installed modifications. Keep in mind though that this conversation/cutscene lag predates the vast majority of them. I can't remember ever playing this game and not experiencing this lag and I've upgraded virtually every component of the rig since I started playing.

All downloadable content.
Advanced Quickbar
Advanced Tactics
Alistair Epilogues - The Royal Wedding
Awakening Blackblade Armor Dragon Drop Fix
Improved Atmosphere
Apprentice Robes Fix
Armor Rune Drop Fixes
Autorun And Tab Highlight Toggles
Awakening Blackblade Armor Dragon Drop Fix
Awakening Endgame Cutscene Fixes
Awakening Helmet Fix
Awakening In The OC
Awakening Silverite Mines Bugfix
Bergens Honor Fix
Chantry Quest Rewards
Damage Statistic Fix
Deathblow Multipliers
Detailed Tooltips
DLC Transfer To Awakening Patch
Dog Gift Tweaks
Dragon Age Rules Fixpack
Expanded Shapeshifting - Learned Forms - Full Form Abilities
Extended Dog Talents
Extended Shale Talents
Extra Dog Slot
Extra Tints And Tones
Faster Weapons
Free Items In Your Inventory
Gift Guide - Awakening
Gift Guide
Gift List Codex Entry For Each Companion
Human Female cocky Voice
Improved Atmosphere
Item Set Descriptions - Codex Entry
Joining Ritual Rewards
Law And Order Fixes
Level 50
Lock Bash
Lost To The Memories Rewards
Lothering Chantry Quest Rewards
Make Console Commands Visible
More Readable Fonts And User Interface
Morrigan Restoration Patch Dialog Fixpack
Open Lock Spells
Poison And Poultice Fix
Respecification
Tainted Fix
The Five Thousand Millionth Morrigan Face
Two Specializations Sten
Unobtainable Item Bugfix
Yuriah's Third Store Upgrade
Zevran Dialog Fix Complete
ZevranASAP

Edit
I even tried overclocking my C.P.U. from 3.6Ghz to 4.2Ghz and the the difference was only slight, a little better though.

- Ryan Paul Fialcowitz

Modifié par RyanFialcowitz, 24 juillet 2012 - 07:35 .

[Thandal N'Lyman]

LOL! Yeah, looking at that list, mod issue fer sure.

[RyanFialcowitz]

Thandal NLyman wrote...

LOL! Yeah, looking at that list, mod issue fer sure.

Perhaps you could be more specific?

- Ryan Paul Fialcowitz

[RaenImrahl]

It's impossible to be specific; by their very nature, mods have unpredictable (and largely untested) effects on the game.

The only true way to test if this is a hardware versus software (mod) problem is to do a complete uninstall of the game, reinstall a pristine copy, patch it, and see if you have the same issue. Unfortunately, the fact that you have so many mods means your previously saved games may not be usable (you'll get a "Force Load" message to override the missing mods, which can lead to other problems).

From a hardware standpoint, it's important to note that, unlike other games (such as Mass Effect, which uses the Unreal 3 Engine), DA:O uses its own engine and is very CPU-intensive. Also, while it makes use of multi-core CPUs, it does not do so very efficiently. Going the SLI route, to essentially plow your way through large chunks of graphics data may not work. The only solution would be to clean up the game completely (the aforementioned uninstall/reinstall) and add mods back one at a time, testing after each addition. A laborious process, to say the least....

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 24 juillet 2012 - 03:46 .

[RyanFialcowitz]

RaenImrahl wrote...

It's impossible to be specific; by their very nature, mods have unpredictable (and largely untested) effects on the game.

The only true way to test if this is a hardware versus software (mod) problem is to do a complete uninstall of the game, reinstall a pristine copy, patch it, and see if you have the same issue. Unfortunately, the fact that you have so many mods means your previously saved games may not be usable (you'll get a "Force Load" message to override the missing mods, which can lead to other problems).

From a hardware standpoint, it's important to note that, unlike other games (such as Mass Effect, which uses the Unreal 3 Engine), DA:O uses its own engine and is very CPU-intensive. Also, while it makes use of multi-core CPUs, it does not do so very efficiently. Going the SLI route, to essentially plow your way through large chunks of graphics data may not work. The only solution would be to clean up the game completely (the aforementioned uninstall/reinstall) and add mods back one at a time, testing after each addition. A laborious process, to say the least....

Fairly sure it's not a hardware problem as this problem has persisted across two different formats (Disk version to Steam version.) and an almost completely different rig. The only components that have remained since I first started playing are the case, power supply and the hard drives. I'm already planning on getting a new power supply- not only for the S.L.I. but also to assist in overclocking the proccesor. Might a solid state drive help with this?

I was hoping to avoid your mod testing solution, which I knew was the next step anyway. Is it at all possible that it's not a single mod but rather the combined strain on the engine?

I'm going to start a new game with only a few select mods and see how that goes. I've had this problem since I first started playing so if it is a mod that drastically reduces the number of options.

- Ryan Paul Fialcowitz

[RaenImrahl]

RyanFialcowitz wrote...
I'm already planning on getting a new power supply- not only for the S.L.I. but also to assist in overclocking the proccesor. Might a solid state drive help with this?

No, I can't say an SSD will help.  I suppose the game may run faster overall, but any mod-created lag will still be there.  I am pretty darn sure what you're experiencing is mod-related.  BTW-- some users have reported that overclocking actually causes *more* lags and crashes of the game.  It's finicky that way.

RyanFialcowitz wrote...
I was hoping to avoid your mod testing solution, which I knew was the next step anyway. Is it at all possible that it's not a single mod but rather the combined strain on the engine?

Sure. And since you have so many mods, it could also be that one or more of them we're never tested using the latest patches.

RyanFialcowitz wrote...

I'm going to start a new game with only a few select mods and see how that goes. I've had this problem since I first started playing so if it is a mod that drastically reduces the number of options.

I hope that works.  Just keep in mind that the only way to remove the effects of some mods *for sure* is to uninstall/reinstall the game.

RI

[RyanFialcowitz]

 I tried it with only a few mods plus the D.L.C. installed and it lagged abit eventually. Tried it with nothing but the base game installed and I gave up eventually after it refused to lag- although to be fair I might not have played long enough.

What I did notice is that with mods installed the game used up over two gigs of memory. I know this because I checked when it started lagging. With no mods installed, where I encountered no lag, the memory usage never went much over one gig.

- Ryan Paul Fialcowitz

[Onox]

Hi, I have the same problem, though not as bad as described in your first post. The game begins stuttering after some time, but it can vary a lot : a few minutes, 15-30 minutes, or 2 hours ! Other times it runs fine. This is especially noticeable during conversations (but for me the conversation options come up smoothly). If you do a search on these forums about "stuttering", you will find many results with people discussing the same kind of issues...

In my next playthrough I'll try to remove some mods, but I'm really not sure it's caused by a mod because of the randomness of this problem (as you remarked). And I don't use many mods.

The mods we have in common are :
(All the DLCs)
Advanced Tactics
Make Console Commands Visible
Morrigan and Zevran restoration fixes
A similar game mechanism fixpack, but not the same. This one : http://dragonage.nex...ds/2053#content
Respecification

Other mods I'm using :
Custom number of Tactics slots
Ser Gilmore as a recruitable NPC

And that's about all.

My hardware specs are far above the recommended ones (Core i5-3570K, 8 GB of RAM, Radeon HD 7870). And that's on Windows 7 64-bit too.

And upgrading your system (SSD, second graphics card) would be useless for this problem !

Modifié par Onox, 26 juillet 2012 - 02:10 .

[RyanFialcowitz]

Onox wrote...

Hi, I have the same problem, though not as bad as described in your first post. The game begins stuttering after some time, but it can vary a lot : a few minutes, 15-30 minutes, or 2 hours ! Other times it runs fine. This is especially noticeable during conversations (but for me the conversation options come up smoothly). If you do a search on these forums about "stuttering", you will find many results with people discussing the same kind of issues...

In my next playthrough I'll try to remove some mods, but I'm really not sure it's caused by a mod because of the randomness of this problem (as you remarked). And I don't use many mods.

The mods we have in common are :
(All the DLCs)
Advanced Tactics
Make Console Commands Visible
Morrigan and Zevran restoration fixes
A similar game mechanism fixpack, but not the same. This one : http://dragonage.nex...ds/2053#content
Respecification

Other mods I'm using :
Custom number of Tactics slots
Ser Gilmore as a recruitable NPC

And that's about all.

My hardware specs are far above the recommended ones (Core i5-3570K, 8 GB of RAM, Radeon HD 7870). And that's on Windows 7 64-bit too.

And upgrading your system (SSD, second graphics card) would be useless for this problem !

I did a test run with absolutely nothing but the base game installed and couldn't get it to stutter/lag. Granted I was skipping all of the conversations/cutscenes in the inital errors to get to the later ones. With a Human Noble start I notice the lag starting up around the Kokari Wilds.

In that run I played for awhile and then quit and added in a few mods, played some more then quit and added more mods and so and so on. I couldn't get it to lag and I did two of the main missions. I think this might be because I was restarting so often, which I've noticed in the past temporarily solves the problem. This also seems to be the solution for memory leaks.

I've since started a serious playthrough will all my stuff installed. I turned on TrilinearFiltering & TripleBuffering in DragonAge.ini- not sure they actually do anything, but I'm desperate. So, far just finished Ostagar and I only got some very minor stuttering during The Joining.

As for upgrading that I was going to do that even before I started replaying this game. And frankly there's every chance it could help given that I've yet to see someone conclusively nail down a cause. Although if it is a memory leak I don't think anything can be done as far as I'm aware.

- Ryan Paul Fialcowitz