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Will EA learn from ME3 for DA3?


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incinerator950 wrote...

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no they wont
everything they touch dies a slow death


Dead Space has been moderately successful, minus one animated film. 


Have you seen what they're doing with Dead Space 3? Maybe it's early, but I'm honestly not looking forward to that.


No, if I hype it for myself or let others explain to me everything they're doing, I'll either expect too much or might accidentally jump on a band wagon.   I have never followed Dev hype beyond a few letters, and its the reason why I never cared for the Fable games or ME3 beyond my own enjoyment.

DS2 exceeded my expectations, despite a handful of sprite scenes and the common rumors that the game wouldn't have the same effects of DS1.  If you're refering to the Co-op thing that I have no idea about, similar to RE5, I can see why everyone would be panicking.  

That kind of prep has braced me for failures like ACV. 


Well EA did said the reason for the co-op in DS3 is because single player is too scary. Can you believe it a horror game can be scary? That suppose to be a good thing but EA take it like it's a bad thing.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

Remember EA believes that multiplayer is the future and that for a game to be a success they MUST sell at least 5 million.


well not meany ea games are doing that at the moment

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75 perfect scores was proof enough to bioware that ME3 is already good enough.

i think wed already be aware if bioware or EA was aware of ME3s failings. we do see it with the release of the EC, but the EC was a total waste of time. actually, ME3 was a waste of time. the effort put into ME3 was all wasted potential. hell since after ME1, its all been wasted potential.

out of anyone at EA/bioware, id consider someone pretty awfull at their job if they were satisfied with the way ME3 turned out.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

cuzsal wrote...

no they wont
everything they touch dies a slow death


Dead Space has been moderately successful, minus one animated film. 


Have you seen what they're doing with Dead Space 3? Maybe it's early, but I'm honestly not looking forward to that.


No, if I hype it for myself or let others explain to me everything they're doing, I'll either expect too much or might accidentally jump on a band wagon.   I have never followed Dev hype beyond a few letters, and its the reason why I never cared for the Fable games or ME3 beyond my own enjoyment.

DS2 exceeded my expectations, despite a handful of sprite scenes and the common rumors that the game wouldn't have the same effects of DS1.  If you're refering to the Co-op thing that I have no idea about, similar to RE5, I can see why everyone would be panicking.  

That kind of prep has braced me for failures like ACV. 


Well EA did said the reason for the co-op in DS3 is because single player is too scary. Can you believe it a horror game can be scary? That suppose to be a good thing but EA take it like it's a bad thing.


Horror games are generally overrated this gen. 

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

cuzsal wrote...

no they wont
everything they touch dies a slow death


Dead Space has been moderately successful, minus one animated film. 


Have you seen what they're doing with Dead Space 3? Maybe it's early, but I'm honestly not looking forward to that.


No, if I hype it for myself or let others explain to me everything they're doing, I'll either expect too much or might accidentally jump on a band wagon.   I have never followed Dev hype beyond a few letters, and its the reason why I never cared for the Fable games or ME3 beyond my own enjoyment.

DS2 exceeded my expectations, despite a handful of sprite scenes and the common rumors that the game wouldn't have the same effects of DS1.  If you're refering to the Co-op thing that I have no idea about, similar to RE5, I can see why everyone would be panicking.  

That kind of prep has braced me for failures like ACV. 


Well EA did said the reason for the co-op in DS3 is because single player is too scary. Can you believe it a horror game can be scary? That suppose to be a good thing but EA take it like it's a bad thing.


i have friends that ive tried to get them to play bioshock and i think fallout3 or something too. and they didnt play much of them because they were too scary or freaky. so it sounds dumb sying it out loud, but there is a little tiny bit of reasoning for someone to think coop is a good thing. but then again if your scared that easily, horror games arent for you. i dont know why a game developer would pander to a group that has no interest in its game in the first place. but ofcorse, i played ME3 so im not unaware of it.

i think DS3 is gonna suck. coop dead space wouldnt sound interesting to me in the least. are the enemies still gonig to be repetetive and boring with 2 people? meh, i think theres alot more to focus on their outside of coop. even if i like coop or not. and my perspective is almost always spot on.

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No. EA/Bioware will continue their decline. Hopefully another company will come along to fill the void, one which values craftsmanship over "profitability".

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malavita wrote...

No. EA/Bioware will continue their decline. Hopefully another company will come along to fill the void, one which values craftsmanship over "profitability".


craftsmanship is profitability when a game is fun and good all round it spreads word of mouth and makes money in the long run
thus creating a loyal fan base
bit like cod it does everything it's huge fan base expects thats why it sells well

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

Well EA did said the reason for the co-op in DS3 is because single player is too scary. Can you believe it a horror game can be scary? That suppose to be a good thing but EA take it like it's a bad thing.


Actually, to requote you, I've actually requested a Co-op in the SP.  Completel optional, but still enjoyable after playng the highly controversial MP. 

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 What EA (NOT Bioware) should learn is this:

STAY. AWAY. FROM. DRAGON. AGE. THREE.

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Simple question: do you think EA will learn from their mistakes with mass effect 3 that games shouldn't be rushed/cheepened, or made very much in favour of newcomers?

Or will they still just try and go for the highest pprofit thing (enjoyable game filled with plotholes but great gameplay, multiplayer system with free dlc but option to pay for equipment/characters)?


I sure hope so.  I certainly hope the rumoured MP doesn't happen and they concentrate on just making the SP as good as it possibly can be.  I also hope we'll not be running around the same tiny city for 99% of the game again.

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EA and Bioware are the same. Greg Zeschuck is a VP at EA and Ray Muzyka is a General Manager and VP at EA. If the folks working on ME3 needed more time, they had plenty of "Bioware" backing at EA to get the time. If you pay attention to the complaints, you will realize time wasn't the issue with this game.

Modifié par keekee53, 23 juillet 2012 - 11:29 .


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blueumi wrote...

malavita wrote...

No. EA/Bioware will continue their decline. Hopefully another company will come along to fill the void, one which values craftsmanship over "profitability".


craftsmanship is profitability when a game is fun and good all round it spreads word of mouth and makes money in the long run
thus creating a loyal fan base
bit like cod it does everything it's huge fan base expects thats why it sells well


Exactly
A lot of people talk bad about Cod but you cant deny that Activison is giving the people what they want and that is a fast arcade style shooter. If you buy a Cod game you know what you will get. They dont change their games completely and than slap you in the face and say "Deal with it".
That´s the thing Im actually expecting from every dev out there. If you start a Franchise improved it over time and dont make drastic changes which make no one happy(Dragon Age 2)

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I take it the OP never played DA2.

No, they've clearly shown they don't learn from their mistakes.

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meh.....I hope so for the DA fans ....I am still not gonna buy the damn game sadly

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doubt it ea has buggered quite a few franchises in a very short time

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Considering all of the current talk about how EA is in the process of destroying the Dead Space franchise I think it's pretty safe to assume that DA3 will receive a similar treatment.

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And we're done here.

End of line.