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Would Everyone Love The Extended Cut If It Was Already In The Main Game Beforehand?


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#26
Necrotron

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I would have hated it just the same, because it still destroys the plot of Mass Effect 1, doesn't fit the themes of Mass Effect, and/or forces Shepard to 'pick his method of destroying his morality' at the threat of annihilation by the Reapers with no way out other than death.

I don't need a happy ending, but an ending that forces me to personally kill allies or make them cyborgs, or become indoctrinated (as far as the evidence presented to Shepard suggests Control should result in) is like a malicious Game Master killing a D&D player's character out of spite. It's just wrong.

But it doesn't matter. My opinion isn't really relevant and the only choice is to either continue to buy Bioware games or not. Mass Effect as the best game series of all time is already far lost.

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No, the star child was still completely unnecessary for the ending of the game, We waited for a long time an epic encounter with Harbinger or Illusive Man but instead we battle with words with a child? It just really ruins the mood, the intensity, the drama, the atmosphere of the mass effect Universe completely. Heck, I would have enjoyed more if it was the ghost of Saren at the end, even if it doesn't make sense, at least I know who this character is, not a character that I get to know 5 minutes before it all ends. And it really hurts me, because before that to me the games have been pure perfection, not a single complain for me, until that child appears, heck I wouldn't mind if it ended with the Anderson conversation in the end it would be a sad yet triumph ending, and closure for Anderson as a hero.

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Nope. Not a chance. I'm of the view that the only reason why people have accepted the EC was due to the fact that they aren't going to be getting anything more than that. The endings still sucks. People have just gotten tired and acquiesced to what has been, apparently, inevitable and have probably moved on.

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I still don't believe the EC fits the themes of what ME was about and there is still the problem of the Catalyst invalidating the entire plot of ME1 but I'd have excepted the ending had it have been there to begin with..

My concern is that Bioware seem so hell bent on making money that they'll now push unfinished games out the door for the sake of prophet. I'm expecting DA3 to be surrounded by controversy for when it is finally released. I just hope that game will not require an EC DLC.

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Don't know. First impressions can ruin everything.

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Yeah, there would still be rage. But still for a good reason. I wish EA didn't rush it.

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Nope, I still wouldn't like it, the ending still suck and the catalyst makes no sense.

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I think I would have been perfectly fine with the ending if the EC had been in originally. I still don't think the overall plot which culminated in the ending was particularly inspiring, but it was good enough and the heavy emotional content made up for it.

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the endings still would have been stupid, might have been a little better

but yeah I would still be annoyed

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um NO this is not what we paid for
we paid for a ending not color coded explsion and some ****** brat that invalidates the whole series

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Yes, it should have been in the original, but it still wouldn't have made the ending any better. It was just a cheap attempt to appease the players.  The same as when you say something to a partner, that you later regret. The damage is done, and no amount of roses will ever make that person forget. In our case, we got dandelions.

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I actually didn't beat the game until after the EC was announced, so at first I wasn't so upset because I was expecting an awesome new ending with the EC. Sadly, the EC didn't fix what was wrong with the endings in the first place I still hate the endings. Those problems are mainly the contrived choices and the Catalyst character, which invalidates much of Mass Effect 1s plot and is completely unnecessary. That, and it seems they want to end the Mass Effect universe with vague and disparate endings instead of allowing a new series to start. A post Reaper universe will be awesome if it's done right.

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Well I wouldnt be nearly so pissed, but Id still be angry nonetheless because even with extended cut the ending still makes no sense. But what makes me mad with the ending especially extended cut is how anticlimactic it truly is, not to mention the retcons basically tell me bioware actually did screw up the ending. Hard. Will they go back and fix it? Idk. I do know that this game upset me more than any other game I played and I definitely will not be buying anything else if they're going to treat the shepards and players like trash at the very end.

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I hated the original and found I just disliked the extended cut. The crucible and the three choices don't bother me as much as the fact that the antagonist tells Shepard pick RGB and if you don't well guess what. Harbinger reminds you who runs this ****. I probably would have accepted it had the choices been provided by the scientists working on the crucible. At least then it wouldn't seem like shepard was that kid that gets a trophy just for showing up at the award ceremony. "Here you go Johnny, just for being here you get to destroy us. Thanks for playing."

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White Zombie wrote...

Nope. Not a chance. I'm of the view that the only reason why people have accepted the EC was due to the fact that they aren't going to be getting anything more than that. The endings still sucks. People have just gotten tired and acquiesced to what has been, apparently, inevitable and have probably moved on.


Well, I can only speak for myself, but I've hardly "accepted" the EC. What I HAVE accepted is that Bioware/EA, for some inexplicable reason, really doesn't want my money. So far as I'm concerned, Koobismo is busy writing the ending of the game and he's going to be getting a $10 donation from me each and every time EAware releases a ME3 DLC. Childish? Maybe. But if I can't get the product I want from Source A and Source B is happy to give it to me, then I'm equally happy to give Source B my money instead.

On topic: I'm sure there wouldn't have been the sheer level of shock/disgust that we saw from the original ending. But the EC'd ending is still plenty horrible. It's just that now your flavor of war crimes has SPRINKLES!

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You can't please everyone and as sad as the truth is its just that, the Truth.

Till Bioware can figure out a way for everyone to have the 'Ideal ending individual players desire', we're forever stuck with the-
"WAAAAAHHHHH I DIDN'T WANT THIS!"
"THIS GAME IS THE SUCK OF SUCK!"
"I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER BIOWARE PRODUCT AGAIN!"
"I HATE MASS EFFECT 3, I WANT MASS EFFECT 2 AGAIN!"
Yada yada yada kids, teens, and adults till the day we either die or stop acknowledging them or stop coming to the forums.

With that said, I was fine with the ending prior to the DLC of EC's. The EC's only made me happier. So while the players who are angry for the rest of their days because the game didn't end "Their way" and just shut their eyes in staid of looking to the horizon, I will keep my eyes open and wait to see what comes next. Bioware -may- of ended 'Shepards' story, but it doesn't mean they have ended the story of Mass effect.

Modifié par Dunabar, 24 juillet 2012 - 03:47 .


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LiarasShield wrote...

I think if the endings from the get go were like the stuff we see in the extended everyone would've been more happy if it was originally in the game from the start.


The endings are fine. Space magic whatever. That's fine.

The problem is how they are presented. Control and Synthesis make no sense as choices because you have no reason to trust the Catalyst. Some reapers says go kill yourself and you'll be a hero and you just believe him? The starkid serves no real purpose other than the destroy the lore set by the previous games. He should be replaced with a prothean VI. They can still have the starkid, but his role is completely passive. Simply giving his take on the options the VI reads off. Not being the one to actually dictate and perform the choices.

Then people want reunions with crew as well for Destroy or something showing them together happy celebrating the anniversary of Shep's sacrifice a year later. Something. The game is all death and gloom and then it ends. No light at the end of the tunnel. That morose crap is depressing. People don't play games to walk away depressed.

Oh, and endings that are based on choices, not EMS.

Oh and people would like to see their assets in space battle and on the ground. The ending was lazy and poorly done. I couldn't tell that I'd gathered a multi-species coalition. Looked like 96% Alliance ships in space and 100% Alliance forces on the ground. The last battle completely contradictied the whole point of the game. Felt like the ending was specifically designed for a renegade, anti-alien, humans-can-do-it-alone, synthetic haters only.

Modifié par The Twilight God, 24 juillet 2012 - 04:03 .


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I'd hate it less than I do now, but I still wouldn't like it.

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No, because they still didn't fix the real problem: deus ex machina/starkid. I don't think I would have been AS completely upset about it, but I still would have hated it.

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Let me th.... no - it would maybe make less damage but still it would be same dumb ending.

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Reth Shepherd wrote...

White Zombie wrote...

Nope. Not a chance. I'm of the view that the only reason why people have accepted the EC was due to the fact that they aren't going to be getting anything more than that. The endings still sucks. People have just gotten tired and acquiesced to what has been, apparently, inevitable and have probably moved on.


Well, I can only speak for myself, but I've hardly "accepted" the EC. What I HAVE accepted is that Bioware/EA, for some inexplicable reason, really doesn't want my money. So far as I'm concerned, Koobismo is busy writing the ending of the game and he's going to be getting a $10 donation from me each and every time EAware releases a ME3 DLC. Childish? Maybe. But if I can't get the product I want from Source A and Source B is happy to give it to me, then I'm equally happy to give Source B my money instead.

On topic: I'm sure there wouldn't have been the sheer level of shock/disgust that we saw from the original ending. But the EC'd ending is still plenty horrible. It's just that now your flavor of war crimes has SPRINKLES!


Lol great idea, 10 dollars to koobismo every time dlc comes out until they fix the ending. Im down

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Not everyone would have been happy ofcourse, but the reaction would have been nothing on this scale. Even my friends who don't play videogames heard of this controversy.

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Nope....the ending still sucks to me.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

I would have understood some semblance of what the **** was going on.

But I wouldn't have come here if it had.

and BSN would be poorer for it

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Dunabar wrote...

You can't please everyone and as sad as the truth is its just that, the Truth.

Till Bioware can figure out a way for everyone to have the 'Ideal ending individual players desire', we're forever stuck with the-
"WAAAAAHHHHH I DIDN'T WANT THIS!"
"THIS GAME IS THE SUCK OF SUCK!"
"I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER BIOWARE PRODUCT AGAIN!"
"I HATE MASS EFFECT 3, I WANT MASS EFFECT 2 AGAIN!"

Yada yada yada kids, teens, and adults till the day we either die or stop acknowledging them or stop coming to the forums.

With that said, I was fine with the ending prior to the DLC of EC's. The EC's only made me happier. So while the players who are angry for the rest of their days because the game didn't end "Their way" and just shut their eyes in staid of looking to the horizon, I will keep my eyes open and wait to see what comes next. Bioware -may- of ended 'Shepards' story, but it doesn't mean they have ended the story of Mass effect.

All from the same person