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[Spicen]

Its going to be a great battle between fereldan and orlais in da3. if the war takes place and you are a orlesian-born. who will you side with.


what will it be- the Mighty Chevaliars of Orlais or the Farm guys of Fereldan?

Feel free to comment

[brushyourteeth]

That depends - who's in the wrong in the conflict? I always found myself siding with the mages because I felt like they were right - not because I just happen to hate the Chantry. So chances are if there's a conflict between the two countries it'll be Orlais that's the aggressor, which would put me on Ferelden's side.

If I'm right about DAIII, though, the major conflict will be Orlais vs. Orlais - double time, because there's civil war and the war between the Divine and the rogue templars/seekers. So I wouldn't be surprised if Ferelden actually took advantage of Orlais' moment of weakness and fought for expansion into Orlais while they had the chance. There's still quite a few pissed off nobles in Ferelden who remember their brutal occupation and murder of Queen Moira. Which might just put me on Orlais' side.
You know, for at least the first playthrough - and then anything goes. 

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 24 juillet 2012 - 03:22 .

[Saberchic]

If it's Ferelden Vs. Orlais... well, I'm Ferelden at heart.  

That's my leaning right now anyway. But in all actuality, it depends on the character I can play. If they do what they did in DA2 and have 1 protagonist with a certain background, it'll have to depend on this character's backstory. If they do an Origins style game, then I can probably roleplay a more sympathetic character to Fereldan from one of the choices present.

However, if it's Orlais vs. Orlais like brushyourteeth speculates, then I don't know. I'll probably play a character who is sympathetic to the mages plight, assuming the templar/seeker vs. mage conflict takes center stage again in DA3.

[CroGamer002]

Side that pays me more?

[MisterJB]

I have to admit, since the first and best game of the series happened in Ferelden, I'm very patriotic towards it.

However, if my protagonist is orlesian, I'll most likely side with Orlais.

[Maclimes]

 There's no indication that there will be a major conflict between Ferelden and Orlais in DA3. According to the limited source material available, there appear to be a number of major wars (and other sources of conflict) going on across Thedas, but that's not one of them. Here's the ones I can remember off the top of my head:

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Templar v Mage v Chantry: This is the continuation of DA2. In the novels, the Chantry attempts to be reasonable towards mages, so the Templars break away from the Chantry. So you have the Templars (now a seperate entity) fighting against the Mages, who have dissolved the Circles and are now fighting openly. Both groups are at odds with the Chantry itself, although less directly.

Qunari v Tevinter: The Qunari are at war, openly, with the Tevinter. Though the Tevinter have greater numbers and more powerful magic, the Qunari have gatlok (gunpowder) and tougher soldiers. They seem to be at a stalemate currently, but the balance of power could shift.

Qunari v Everyone: The Qunari are not subtle about their desire to spread the Qun to the world, and they intend to do so via conquest. Just about any nation in Thedas could find themselves on the recieving end of a Qunari invasion.

Imperial Chantry v Andrastian Chantry: The chantry of Tevinter and the chantry of Andraste (based out of Orlais) have been at odds since they were founded. It cycles between a "cold war" and periods of bloodshed, but the conflict has not ebbed.

Orlesian Civil War: We don't know much about this, other than the fact that several powerful nobles have banded together and are at war with the Empress and Val Royeux. What connection this has to other conflicts is not known, but it started at the same time as the Templar/Mage rebellion, and could be connected. If there's a "Orlais v Ferelden" factor, I suspect it will be here, with certain Fereldens secretly funding or aiding the rebel nobels in Orlais to weaken the country.

Grey Wardens: In addition to the fact that the fight against the Blights is an ongoing one, the Grey Wardens you meet in DA2 seem to imply that something major is going on within their ranks. Theories are wild at the moment, but there seems to be hints that they (or at least some faction of the Wardens) are working with the "intelligent" Darkspawn. It could be a feud within the Wardens themselves (as hinted at in Legacy).

Dalish Elves: They are still trying to find their place in the world, and this brings them at odds with just about everyone else, although they have a special hatred for the Tevinter. This is another possible source of conflict.

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That's all of them I can think of, at the moment. At least all the major possible causes of conflict (There are plenty more smaller ones).

Modifié par Maclimes, 24 juillet 2012 - 04:46 .

[MisterJB]

Alistair does claim that some barons have begun to plot to reconquer Ferelden now that it was weakened by the Blight and that he is trying to keep the peace by working with the Empress.
Tough I imagine that with the Civil War and Templar-Mage war, Orlais won't have the resources or cohesion needed to fight Ferelden.

[Maclimes]

Not to mention the Imperial Chantry may see the Divine weakened (through civil war and loss of Templars), and take the opportunity to act.

[Ulathar]

I think it'll depend on quite a few things. First of all, the context, why is there a battle and what would happen depending on who wins. Then, there's my character - what type of personality does (s)he have, what is his/her backstory and so on? The LI might be a factor, too, who knows ;-)

I'm pretty sure I'd side with Ferelden, but like I said...it depends.

[Zkyire]

The Orlesian woman in the Denerim market pretty much cemented my decision for me - I'd support Ferelden.

Modifié par Zkyire, 24 juillet 2012 - 05:35 .

[saMoorai]

When in doubt, side with the English.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

For Fereldan!

Modifié par Sarcastic Tasha, 24 juillet 2012 - 06:07 .

[Dintonta]

Mmmh... Orlais, I 'd think : Those Fereldans are much too self-righteous to be honest... I don't trust them.

[Cultist]

Whoever pays me more.

Modifié par Cultist, 24 juillet 2012 - 06:11 .

[LolaLei]

Ferelden all the way, after all, I am a dirty turnip lol.

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

Ferelden all the way, after all, I am a dirty turnip lol.

And don't forget you smell like wet dog.... and the shoes - so clunky and shapeless, blegh!

[MisterJB]

They're shoes, they'r there to keep your feet dry.
Practicality FTW!

[The Hierophant]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Ferelden all the way, after all, I am a dirty turnip lol.

And don't forget you smell like wet dog.... and the shoes - so clunky and shapeless, blegh!

What's funny is that when Sten said Ferelden smelled like wet dog i laughed, but when Marjolaine said the same i was offended. I think it might be something about the accent Marj has.

[Maclimes]

Also, Sten did not mean it so much as an insult, as just a fact. He may have been being judgemental, but he wasn't trying to hurt anyone's feelings. He wasn't trying to get a rise out of you, or being snooty.

Marjolaine was just being a ****.

EDIT: It's been years, and I'm still baffled by the profanity filter. It literally makes it impossible to quote some of the dialogue in the very game these forums are for. Makes no sense. Anyway...

Modifié par Maclimes, 24 juillet 2012 - 06:57 .

[brushyourteeth]

LOL - I think Sten was more commenting that the sweet, fruity smell of Par Vollen was replaced in his nostrils by the Ferelden smell of wet dog. Which was yes, less pleasant, but would have been as disagreeable as any smell that didn't smell like home. He'd have probably liked the Antivan smell of dead-flesh-turned-to-leather even less.

Marjolaine was trash-talking Ferelden to insult Leliana's lifestyle change. She also made fun of Ferelden hairstyles while sporting one. Most of us made her bleed through the throat for it later anyway.

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 24 juillet 2012 - 07:02 .

[The Hierophant]

I went back to an old save where i was farming the chest in Marj's hideout, and when you object to her statement she tried to argue against your objection until Leliana interrupted...lol

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Ferelden all the way, after all, I am a dirty turnip lol.

And don't forget you smell like wet dog.... and the shoes - so clunky and shapeless, blegh!

LOL! 

[Beliar86]

Yeah, the qunari vs everyone would probably start from their holding in rivain.  They could do all of these if they let you travel through thedas, with a quest hub in each country's capital/outskirts about the size of 1 DAO quest hub each.  That would still be larger than origins with all that content.

On topic, Orlesian characters annoy me in real life, so much so that it breaks my immersion and I curse the voice actors. I'm not gonna buy da3 if it's exclusively in orlais unless I get to set up where it gets annihilated from existence.

Maclimes wrote...

 There's no indication that there will be a major conflict between Ferelden and Orlais in DA3. According to the limited source material available, there appear to be a number of major wars (and other sources of conflict) going on across Thedas, but that's not one of them. Here's the ones I can remember off the top of my head:

****** 

Templar v Mage v Chantry: This is the continuation of DA2. In the novels, the Chantry attempts to be reasonable towards mages, so the Templars break away from the Chantry. So you have the Templars (now a seperate entity) fighting against the Mages, who have dissolved the Circles and are now fighting openly. Both groups are at odds with the Chantry itself, although less directly.

Qunari v Tevinter: The Qunari are at war, openly, with the Tevinter. Though the Tevinter have greater numbers and more powerful magic, the Qunari have gatlok (gunpowder) and tougher soldiers. They seem to be at a stalemate currently, but the balance of power could shift.

Qunari v Everyone: The Qunari are not subtle about their desire to spread the Qun to the world, and they intend to do so via conquest. Just about any nation in Thedas could find themselves on the recieving end of a Qunari invasion.

Imperial Chantry v Andrastian Chantry: The chantry of Tevinter and the chantry of Andraste (based out of Orlais) have been at odds since they were founded. It cycles between a "cold war" and periods of bloodshed, but the conflict has not ebbed.

Orlesian Civil War: We don't know much about this, other than the fact that several powerful nobles have banded together and are at war with the Empress and Val Royeux. What connection this has to other conflicts is not known, but it started at the same time as the Templar/Mage rebellion, and could be connected. If there's a "Orlais v Ferelden" factor, I suspect it will be here, with certain Fereldens secretly funding or aiding the rebel nobels in Orlais to weaken the country.

Grey Wardens: In addition to the fact that the fight against the Blights is an ongoing one, the Grey Wardens you meet in DA2 seem to imply that something major is going on within their ranks. Theories are wild at the moment, but there seems to be hints that they (or at least some faction of the Wardens) are working with the "intelligent" Darkspawn. It could be a feud within the Wardens themselves (as hinted at in Legacy).

Dalish Elves: They are still trying to find their place in the world, and this brings them at odds with just about everyone else, although they have a special hatred for the Tevinter. This is another possible source of conflict.

******

That's all of them I can think of, at the moment. At least all the major possible causes of conflict (There are plenty more smaller ones).

[brushyourteeth]

Beliar86 wrote...

Yeah, the qunari vs everyone would probably start from their holding in rivain.  They could do all of these if they let you travel through thedas, with a quest hub in each country's capital/outskirts about the size of 1 DAO quest hub each.  That would still be larger than origins with all that content.

On topic, Orlesian characters annoy me in real life, so much so that it breaks my immersion and I curse the voice actors. I'm not gonna buy da3 if it's exclusively in orlais unless I get to set up where it gets annihilated from existence.

It won't be just in Orlais - Mike Laidlaw already released the game map and it also includes Ferelden, the Free Marches, and parts of Rivain, Antiva, Nevarra, and the Tevinter Imperium.

[MisterJB]

He did? Could I trouble you for a link?