Imanol de Tafalla wrote...
Nyoka wrote...
Aw, did the big bad woman hurt your feelings OP? 
As for the other thing...
LOL
If the OP were to apply his standards to the other characters, then he or she end up hating half the people in the Mass Effect series.
Double standards anyone?
Yeah, let's take a look at "the other thing", shall we?
Nyoka wrote...
Ashley represents ignorance by... successfully predicting what will happen concerning alien crew members and international relations?
So, what did Wrex, Liara, Garrus or Tali steal from the SR 1? Did they forward all the schematics to their respective races, and everybody has one now? Oh, wait, that's right, the Turians helped build the SR 1. Gee, maybe she needs to evaluate her position a bit, since they helped build it
for the Alliance, and not for themselves. Yep, she successfully predicted that, didn't she?
Remember, Legion will meddle behind your back with stuff that doesn't belong to him, without asking you, in an attempt to give the Geth an edge. Because all species will look out for themselves first, as Ashley taught you. You only get to know it because Tali notices Legion is scanning her omnitool. Otherwise, you would have had the equivalent of espionage on your own ship, performed by one of your super friends who love you zooo very much.
So what exactly is it you're doing when this occurs? Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it: You are asking all these aliens to go on a suicide mission to stop the collectors from abducting human colonies. I just love that you used Legion for your example, since he is doing simply because it is the logical thing for him to do. There is no criminal intent, despite the fact that it's wrong to do so, and when called on it, he desists. Now I always talk them into cooperation, one way or another, Renegade or Paragon, but even with these aliens looking out for their own interests, Legion for getting the information in the first place, and Tali trying to stop him, both alien concerns, I might add, would Ashley's position be to let Legion send it, since it's just aliens?
The Salarians spy the Normandy's systems and construction to give their own dreadnoughts an edge. They don't tell anyone.
This is far from the worst thing the Salarians do throughout both known history, lifting the Krogans, experimenting on other species w/out consent, etc etc etc, withholding support for the Reaper war if you cure the genophage.
The Turians place atomic bombs in foreign planets they deem potentially dangerous just in case. They don't tell anybody. And the Alliance did the same thing, secretly sending nuclear bombs to Turian space.
So either both are right, or both are wrong? How are humans looking out for human interests inconsistent with what you're postulating Ashley's position to be? It is, after all, humans looking out for their own best interest, and, if it's acceptable from her point of view, then, despite it being objectionable to her that the Turians did it, from her own logical perspective, it's the right thing to do, isn't it?
The Council won't move a finger to protect the Traverse for "a few dozen human colonies", even thought they take advantage of the fact that the territory is being colonized by humans and not by batarians or other enemy races.
Yet, as soon as Udina makes her a Spectre, all bets are off on distrusting the Council.
The Council abandons the earth when we most need help form them, because they have their own planets to protect. This wouldn't have caught anyone by surprised if they have bothered to pay attention when Ashley shared her concerns with you. She said she thought humanity should be ready to go on its own because when the real hard times come, you can expect for each faction to prefer their own survival rather than someone else's. And that's pretty much what every major race in the galaxy is doing.
This by no means makes Ashley correct. In fact, from a story point of view, it makes more sense to apply Ashley's logic to what we're doing, than what they're doing.
By the way, when the Council grounds the Normandy, if you haven't convinced her to trust the other factions more, she tells you that she hates being right. If you have, she tells you the equivalent of an "I told you": "I guess this is part of humanity's learning experience, eh". So she was right about that, too, and you are forced to become a traitor and steal the Normandy, and to make Anderson a traitor too, because of the reasons Ashley explained.
The sad part of this? Udina grounded the Normandy. While he's being quite the bootlicker to the Council, it's his action, nobody else's, and he'll stand there and tell you: You've outlived your usefulness. What Ashley hates being right about at this point is politicians, not aliens.
Ashley is repeatedly right throughout the three games. What she represents is the vision of how things work, or how they would work if Messiah Shepard, to whom every world leader listens to, who can perform militaristic miracles and decide matters of international politics through a couple of minutes of dialogue, didn't exist.
So you were a terrorist in ME 2? You were secretly working for the Reapers, and saved Horizon as a front put on for her benefit? Because if not, she's not right about ME 2. By extension, she can't be right about Shepard's involvement with Cerberus attacking the Mars colony, since she outright accuses you of collusion. "You can't expect me to believe you cut all ties" means "You know exactly what's going on here, and I want a straight answer".
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. All I want to do is to try to show Ashley's view point on Shepard. 
