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[DirtySHISN0]

Why does saren need the conduit to get to the citadel, when in his current (before he was exposed) position he had access to anywhere on the citadel - as per spectre authority?

Why doesn't saren take sovereign straight to the citadel? it clearly has the defenses, firepower and speed to take care of the entire (pre-thanix i'd like to add) citadel fleet and get into the citadel before the arms close.

see. plot holes.

[Knight of Seven]

ME is still the best of the trilogy the sequels don't compare.

[chemiclord]

AlanC9 wrote...

Why does the Council find that sound recording truthful when it talks about the Eden Prime attack, but not truthful when it talks about Reapers?

Taking that line a little bit further...

... why does the Council (whichever one is formed based on your completely irrelevant decision in ME1) go from hearing Saren talking about Reapers, watching one slam through the Citadel, then go "lol wut Reapers?" within two years?

[Jvolikas]

ME1 will always be my favorite of the series. Great story, character/universe introduction, galaxy exploration and the feel of being able to go where you want when you want (a feeling ME2 and 3 never come close to providing), good sidequests, decent combat (not the best but pretty solid IMO) and oh yeah, AN ENDING WHERE YOU SAVE THE GALAXY!

Yeah the inventory system sucked, but I'll gladly endure it for ME1.

[SNAKEATEN]

DirtySHISN0 wrote...

Why does saren need the conduit to get to the citadel, when in his current (before he was exposed) position he had access to anywhere on the citadel - as per spectre authority?

Now that you mention it, it kind of makes Saren look like a moron. 

[Mr Waffles]

Kilkia123 wrote...

ME1 is a great game by all means. However, it, in my opinion, is not the 'best' game in the series.

Story-wise for the trilogy, I believe that ME3 > ME1 > ME2. I felt that the pacing of and immersion offered by the story of ME3 was great. Characterization was definitely handled better in ME3, as I felt a lot closer to my squadmates than in the other two games. ME2 introduced many new characters, but they were not developed fully until ME3. When playing ME1, I felt like the alien characters fell behind in characterization. Save for Garrus, I thought that the other alien squadmates felt flat. Liara especially seemed a boring character to me until ME3, where she bloomed. ME1's story paled in comparison to that of ME2 and 3 and was awfully short (~ seven hours). In fact, completionist run-throughs of ME1 only take me about 15 hours total.

Sure, customization was more plentiful in ME1. However, most of those customizations, namely armor and weapon choices, were rendered useless after you obtained Spectre gear. Even on Insanity, little thought is needed for customizing weapons. Slap on the best upgrades for a Spectre Avenger and plow through the enemy. There were also an unnecessary number of upgrade options for Shepard. The level-up systems of ME2 and 3 are streamlined, sure, but work much better. All I have to do in ME1 is pump points into assault rifles and health and breeze through the game.

As for exploration... Please. The so-called exploration in ME1 isn't even an interesting aspect of the game. Driving around in the Mako on generic and desolate planets was not fun in the slightest. Entering generic bases over and over again was boring. As many sidequests in ME1 actually see you driving around in the Mako to reach your destination, actually completing sidequests is a chore and makes playing ME1 uninteresting and not an enjoyable experience outside of the main storyline.

The inventory was unnecessarily cluttered and clunky. I always just end up selling everything after buying Spectre gear and can get several million credits just lying around with no use.

The elevator loading screens were nice, but just dragged the game on. By the mid-to-late game, sitting through those elevator rides was just boring and actually detracted from the flow of the game.

As for the combat gameplay, I actually don't mind it much at all. It isn't as fluid as the combat in ME3, but it works well enough for me, besides the fact that it is so easy to kill your enemies.

ME3 was just better overall gameplay wise than both ME1 and 2. I rather enjoyed it, more so than ME1 and 2. The VAs definitely stepped up their games and did a remarkable job in ME3, although I do agree that one blight is Diana Allers's character. The game had a more cinematic feel to it compared to ME1 and 2, probably because of the auto-dialogue, but I don't think that's bad at all. ME1 offered more dialogue choices, but many of them just resulted in the same thing spoken by Shepard anyway.

Sorry for the long post, haha. In the end, it's all a matter of opinion.

I definitely didn't like the Mako sections on the nearly identical planets.  Another thing that stood out is
the awful copy and paste side mission map designs, I loathed it so much that combined with the rather bad combat that I pretty much ignored most of the side missions in ME1, especially the ones that didn't have any effect in ME2.

The bad inventory system got on my nerves and I hated those damn elevators, especially that long one from C-Sec to the Normandy's docking bay. I missed the best squad banter in ME3, only Wrex elevator conversations with your team mates in ME1 stood out.

Story was good in ME1 and the best in the trilogy though I did enjoy the other 2 games story as well(except the ME3 pre EC ending, the EC did a lot to satisfy me though not quite perfect).

Yes I did enjoy ME1 for the most part but I wouldn't say it's the best overall. ME2>ME3>ME1

Modifié par Mr Waffles, 26 juillet 2012 - 01:13 .

[SuperMegaWolf]

I wonder if those who dislike mass effect 1 consist of a younger age group than those who do....just a thought.

[Father_Jerusalem]

SuperMegaWolf wrote...

I wonder if those who dislike mass effect 1 consist of a younger age group than those who do....just a thought.

And now you're turning to insults and calling people who disagree with you "children".

Nice.


Edit: And if anyone's being childish, it's you by refusing to accept that other people can have opinions that contradict yours.

Modifié par Father_Jerusalem, 26 juillet 2012 - 03:25 .

[V-rcingetorix]

I liked ME1. It had a fantastic story from beginning to end, something I thought ME2 had as well.

The character development in ME1 was paced very well; a little fast imho, but still well done. I think the character development was better paced in ME2, but ME2 didn't have anything to add on Shepard.

ME1 had the introduction of Shepard; his history, family (if Spacer), a dark past (Earther), and the option to interact with that past. That's good, a nice little touch that makes a story convincing

[SuperMegaWolf]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

SuperMegaWolf wrote...

I wonder if those who dislike mass effect 1 consist of a younger age group than those who do....just a thought.

And now you're turning to insults and calling people who disagree with you "children".

Nice.


Edit: And if anyone's being childish, it's you by refusing to accept that other people can have opinions that contradict yours.

I don't mean to imply that they're childish. The oother two games are better in terms or combat gameplay. It just seems like the design of ME1 would resonate more with older people....not because they're more mature (maturity has little to do with age) but because ME1 seemed to resonate with old scifi of the 60's and 70's. The other two games definitely don't have that feel and it's one of the things I liked most about ME1.

Does anyone think it had that older scifi feel?

Modifié par SuperMegaWolf, 26 juillet 2012 - 03:48 .

[SuperVulcan]

SuperMegaWolf wrote...

I wonder if those who dislike mass effect 1 consist of a younger age group than those who do....just a thought.

Maybe, but I'm 18. I got Mass Effect 1 back in '09 and it is my favorite out of the three. I think that whichever game introduced players to Mass Effect is generally their favorite, there are exceptions of course.

[AresKeith]

SuperVulcan wrote...

SuperMegaWolf wrote...

I wonder if those who dislike mass effect 1 consist of a younger age group than those who do....just a thought.

Maybe, but I'm 18. I got Mass Effect 1 back in '09 and it is my favorite out of the three. I think that whichever game introduced players to Mass Effect is generally their favorite, there are exceptions of course.

yea I'm one of the exceptions, I started with ME2 for PS3 so I went back and played ME1 on my cousin's Xbox and really enjoyed it, even though the combat was stiff its still my favorite of the three

[Legion of 1337]

ME definitely had the best put together story. But the combat mechanics were very meh.

ME2 didn't have as much of a story as a bunch of individual, character-centric plots that was basically a lead-up to ME3. Problem is, it was designed to be a lead-up to the Dark Energy plot, which was ditched. So it makes less sense. But the actual individual sub-plots with each character/location are well done. The combat was better, and the characters more fleshed out and realistic than in the other two.

ME3 was actually a decent TPS, best combat of the three. The story was pretty good, unless you don't like the McGuffin in which case it sucks balls. Regardless, the last 10minutes let it down.

[Mathias]

Mass Effect 1 was also the last pure Bioware game

[AresKeith]

personally combine ME1 with ME3 graphics and combat system that would be cool imo

[Mbednar]

In my humble opinion, they've all got their own strengths:

ME1: Fantastic story. Choices feel like they will have FAR reaching implications, Cool variety of party members.

ME2: As a stand-alone game its the most enjoyable of the series (relatively pointless as far as its importance to the story of the trilogy though), VERY LARGE party selection, Improved gameplay.

ME3: Solid Gameplay, Very cinematic feel to most of the game, plus Liara is back

For me... ME2 is the most fun ONLY if Lair of the Shadow Broker is included with it. Otherwise, ME1 would just barely beat it for me.

[V-rcingetorix]

Okay, could someone explain to me where the Dark Energy information comes from? I have played ME1 about 10 times through (including 4 replays) and ME2 about 17 times (3 replays), and I do not remember anything about Dark Energy.

Closest I can come for the Reaper reasoning in ME1 is that they "harvest" us, do not enslave, and are very contemptuous about people in general.

All I get from ME2 was that Humanity was very interesting to the Reapers now and that their servants (the Collectors) were interested in anything Shepard/Human related. Oh, and "You are bacteria...we are your genetic destiny...." kind of machismo from harbinger.

I've read the Codex and Journals..where do I find the Dark Energy idea?

[Father_Jerusalem]

SuperVulcan wrote...

SuperMegaWolf wrote...

I wonder if those who dislike mass effect 1 consist of a younger age group than those who do....just a thought.

Maybe, but I'm 18. I got Mass Effect 1 back in '09 and it is my favorite out of the three. I think that whichever game introduced players to Mass Effect is generally their favorite, there are exceptions of course.

I'm over 30 and started with ME1.

So both your idiotic assumptions don't apply.

Any other attempts to denigrate people who simply have a different opinion than you?

[Mbednar]

V-rcingetorix wrote...

Okay, could someone explain to me where the Dark Energy information comes from? I have played ME1 about 10 times through (including 4 replays) and ME2 about 17 times (3 replays), and I do not remember anything about Dark Energy.

Closest I can come for the Reaper reasoning in ME1 is that they "harvest" us, do not enslave, and are very contemptuous about people in general.

All I get from ME2 was that Humanity was very interesting to the Reapers now and that their servants (the Collectors) were interested in anything Shepard/Human related. Oh, and "You are bacteria...we are your genetic destiny...." kind of machismo from harbinger.

I've read the Codex and Journals..where do I find the Dark Energy idea?

Its mostly something that you have to read between the lines to see.  However, the most obvious foreshadowing of the future "conflict" against the threat of Dark Energy is the Tali Recruitment Mission on Haestrom.  The sun is going supernova way too fast because of this Dark Energy problem.  It was the problem the rest of the galaxy was going to face in ME3 and beyond.

[SuperMegaWolf]

V-rcingetorix wrote...

Okay, could someone explain to me where the Dark Energy information comes from? I have played ME1 about 10 times through (including 4 replays) and ME2 about 17 times (3 replays), and I do not remember anything about Dark Energy.

Closest I can come for the Reaper reasoning in ME1 is that they "harvest" us, do not enslave, and are very contemptuous about people in general.

All I get from ME2 was that Humanity was very interesting to the Reapers now and that their servants (the Collectors) were interested in anything Shepard/Human related. Oh, and "You are bacteria...we are your genetic destiny...." kind of machismo from harbinger.

I've read the Codex and Journals..where do I find the Dark Energy idea?

Someone here can probably elaborate better, but in ME2 there is a side plot involving Tali's research where they studied a sun and found it to be way older(?) than everything around it. The said it was some kind of problem with dark energy. I remember for some reason that info seemed like it was supposed to have a lot of significance for the ME universe but I'm not sure why it felt that way.

[SuperMegaWolf]

SuperMegaWolf wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

SuperMegaWolf wrote...



I wonder if those who dislike mass effect 1 consist of a younger age group than those who do....just a thought.

And now you're turning to insults and calling people who disagree with you "children".



Nice.





Edit: And if anyone's being childish, it's you by refusing to accept that other people can have opinions that contradict yours.

I
don't mean to imply that they're childish. The oother two games are
better in terms or combat gameplay. It just seems like the design of ME1
would resonate more with older people....not because they're more
mature (maturity has little to do with age) but because ME1 seemed to
resonate with old scifi of the 60's and 70's. The other two games
definitely don't have that feel and it's one of the things I liked most
about ME1.



Does anyone think it had that older scifi feel?

Dear Father_Jerusalem

I clarified my statement but everyone seems intent on only quoting the first part

[SuperVulcan]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

SuperVulcan wrote...
Maybe, but I'm 18. I got Mass Effect 1 back in '09 and it is my favorite out of the three. I think that whichever game introduced players to Mass Effect is generally their favorite, there are exceptions of course.

I'm over 30 and started with ME1.

So both your idiotic assumptions don't apply.

Any other attempts to denigrate people who simply have a different opinion than you?

Relax. I was not trying to offend you. I was just saying what I thought. I also acknowleged that there were people that didn't apply to what I said, such as yourself. No need to be rude.

[AresKeith]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

SuperVulcan wrote...

SuperMegaWolf wrote...

I wonder if those who dislike mass effect 1 consist of a younger age group than those who do....just a thought.

Maybe, but I'm 18. I got Mass Effect 1 back in '09 and it is my favorite out of the three. I think that whichever game introduced players to Mass Effect is generally their favorite, there are exceptions of course.

I'm over 30 and started with ME1.

So both your idiotic assumptions don't apply.

Any other attempts to denigrate people who simply have a different opinion than you?

thats why he said "maybe" and "exceptions"

[V-rcingetorix]

All right, thanks for the Dark Energy explanation guys

I thought the Haestrom mission was significant in that the Geth were developing a technique that could extinguish suns. Anything that powerful could have helped against the Reapers.

Back on topic, ME1 had Sovereign as an inside mole, left there since the last cycle (or an early arrival?). Anyway, Sovereign's presence was to fix the programming the Protheans had imposed on the Citadel; what with its failure to signal the fleet for harvesting.

That was cool. Strategy (long term plan) was for eventual overwhelming of the galaxy. Tactics changed by the situation, and most of the story was tight.