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[johanp]

Hi all,

I'm trying to understand and verify the exact formula used to calulcate the attack rating. On the Wiki it says:

AttackValue = 61 + 0.5 * {(Strength - 10) + (Dexterity - 10)} + AttackBonuses

I assume that Cunning has no impact on attack rating even with Lethality, correct?

The in games hints for attributes indicates that only Dex contributes to attack for range weapons. So what is the formula then? Simply the following?

AttackValue = 61 + 0.5 * (Dexterity - 10) + AttackBonuses 

I'm trying to verify these in my current game on Leliana who is Lvl 9 and has the following attributes:

Str 18
Dex 28 (27 + 1)

She also has Expert Combat Training which should give +2 attack.

When equipped with an enchanted dagger which has an attack bonus of +4 I would then expect an attack rating of

61 + 0.5 * (8 + 18) + (2 + 4) = 80

But on the character record page it states 74 (68 + 6).

When equipped with a short bow with no attack modified I would expect

61 + 0.5 * 18 + 2 = 72

But the character record shows 70 (68 + 2).

What am I missing here?

I'm using the 1.05 version of the game.

Modifié par johanp, 24 juillet 2012 - 01:55 .

[Arthur Cousland]

Attack rating is determined by strength and dexterity. 2 str/dex=1 attack.

Lethality only affects damage, not attack.

Also, don't forget stat boosts from specializations, like assassin and duelist, which both add +2 dexterity, and duelist gives +1 attack.

[johanp]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

Attack rating is determined by strength and dexterity. 2 str/dex=1 attack.

Is this true also for ranged attacks? That contradicts the information in the in-game tooltips for the attributes.

Also, don't forget stat boosts from specializations, like assassin and duelist, which both add +2 dexterity, and duelist gives +1 attack.

 

Right, but the Dex boost would show up on the character record right?

Is it really +1 attack for Duelist? I thought it was +1 damage.

At any rate, Leliana in my game is only bard so far.  So I'm still missing +2 attack with the bow and +6 attack with the dagger.

[johanp]

Tancred Of The Chantry wrote...


Your math is correct, by the logic of the Dragon Age Wiki,

However, I did some searching and found this from the Dragon Age Toolset Wiki. It draws all its information from the game’s scripts.

Apparently, the Dragon Age Wiki has made a mistake. The base number for the attack rating is (or could be) 54 and not 61 as stated. Assuming it's correct, that partly explains why your attack rating is less than you would expect going by the Dragon Age Wiki’s math.

 

When looking over the class descriptions on the Wiki I see something called "Base Attack" which is 55 for rogue and 60 for Warrior. Perhaps it is this that should be used instead of 61 or 54? See dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Rogue_(Origins)

Regarding the bonus from Combat Training I think that I probably misinterpreted this. It says Expert level gives +2 attack and Master gives +4. This is probably cumulative, which means it would be +6 in total.

 
Are you seeing any discrepancies with the attack ratings of your other companions or your Warden, or is it just Leliana?

I have now progressed in the game and forgot to save at the point I described above. But I have gone over the current stats for all characters and for melee, for Alistair, Leliana, Zevran, Sten and Shale the given rating matches exactly the calculations under the assumptions I'm giving above. For the PC otoh the actual rating is +5. So I'm assuming the PC gets some bonus from somewhere. Will try to verify this from an earlier save.

For ranged though, it doesnt match up at all:

PC: +6
Alistair: +13
Leliana: +5
Zevran: +5

That is the actual rating compared with calculated. Alistair is equipped with a crossbow, the PC shortbow, Leliana and Zevran longbow.