corporal doody wrote...
you didnt disagree with me...you restated what i said. Biotic users...rather people playing as them have been in decline. ...cuz of weapons and higher dps classes. people gonna play the shinier killing-er classes.
You used one harrier clip... and no electric slash.... You had to have only spammed shadow strike to get the finishing kill on targets. Your team would have to play an exceptionally terrible game if they let you get a highscore by spamming worthless shadowstrike.xtorma wrote...
ShadedPhoenix wrote...
#xtorma wrote...
dr_random wrote...
xtorma wrote...
Honestly , I can do more damage (get higher score) by using a pirhana on my shadow , and just using cloak for damage buff, then i ever could using SS and ES.
You may do more damage, but do you apply it to the optimal target? What's the point picking a Shadow when another infiltrator could just do the job, too?
SS is useful to go get downed teamates, and to reposition around the map quickly. I have tried to use es and ss with just nominal weapon usage, and my scores are always way better when i use the weapon almost exclusively. It should not be that way is what I am trying to point out.
Weapons do outtrump powers.
Might be because you take es, that power is irrelevant on plat, last plat match i used in all one clip of my harrier and scored second with only a thousand difference to a typhoon destroyer (considering it was match full of legionaires that can carry gold with any class...)
A well played shadow does not need ammo, cept for some cover fire or as finisher
Can you do better with the same skill level, just using your weapon with cloak as a damage buff though. People score high with just about anything that are well skilled, that wasn't the point. The point was potential.
corporal doody wrote...
upinya slayin wrote...
RoZh2400 wrote...
You clearly never played with a roaming biotic death squad. N7 Fury, Asari Adept, Turian Sentinel, Drell Adept. Blows the hell out of reapers...so fast, even Cerberus (except Atlas because they have so many shields)
I've played every combo of eevrything. I have completed platinum with an all biotics team. I know it works very well, i'm just making the point that BEs still don't compare to DPS of some new classes/guns. BEs used to be sooo powerful and weapons oculdn't keep up. Now its kinda been reversed in a way,
yeah...biotic users have gradually declined. better weapons...powerhouse and high dps classes have helped. each DLC has helped.
they should have never nerfed BE
edit...and more often than not it has been tough doing BE's now as a lone biotic...cuz badguys are getting mowed down before you can blow um up,,,assuming someone hasnt hit it with overload or energy drain...
ShadedPhoenix wrote...
Drellguards are a force to be reckoned with if a master of it wields it, one of those classes that isnt for the masses
ShadedPhoenix wrote...
Drellguards are a force to be reckoned with if a master of it wields it, one of those classes that isnt for the masses
Modifié par Pedactor, 24 juillet 2012 - 04:21 .
Sdrol117 wrote...
corporal doody wrote...
upinya slayin wrote...
RoZh2400 wrote...
You clearly never played with a roaming biotic death squad. N7 Fury, Asari Adept, Turian Sentinel, Drell Adept. Blows the hell out of reapers...so fast, even Cerberus (except Atlas because they have so many shields)
I've played every combo of eevrything. I have completed platinum with an all biotics team. I know it works very well, i'm just making the point that BEs still don't compare to DPS of some new classes/guns. BEs used to be sooo powerful and weapons oculdn't keep up. Now its kinda been reversed in a way,
yeah...biotic users have gradually declined. better weapons...powerhouse and high dps classes have helped. each DLC has helped.
they should have never nerfed BE
wrong.
GallowsPole wrote...
Take annhilation field into the middle of a mob and then detonate it. Powers rule.
Gockey wrote...
corporal doody wrote...
yeah...biotic users have gradually declined. better weapons...powerhouse and high dps classes have helped. each DLC has helped.
they should have never nerfed BE
edit...and more often than not it has been tough doing BE's now as a lone biotic...cuz badguys are getting mowed down before you can blow um up,,,assuming someone hasnt hit it with overload or energy drain...
Yeah see I disagree with this. I think the ability for BE's should still be there I just think it should require a gear or something. AA's were a ticket to Gold matches for low level players initially. If you could smack that phantom in stasis and warp/throw everything else you were golden. Really more powerful than a lot of gun classes.
However now the table is reversed. Guns outstrip biotics by a fair clip. There should be some type of gear or something that rewards players with stronger (see larger, faster, or stronger) BE's just like more PSP's offer better guns.
landylan wrote...
You used one harrier clip... and no electric slash.... You had to have only spammed shadow strike to get the finishing kill on targets. Your team would have to play an exceptionally terrible game if they let you get a highscore by spamming worthless shadowstrike.xtorma wrote...
ShadedPhoenix wrote...
#xtorma wrote...
dr_random wrote...
xtorma wrote...
Honestly , I can do more damage (get higher score) by using a pirhana on my shadow , and just using cloak for damage buff, then i ever could using SS and ES.
You may do more damage, but do you apply it to the optimal target? What's the point picking a Shadow when another infiltrator could just do the job, too?
SS is useful to go get downed teamates, and to reposition around the map quickly. I have tried to use es and ss with just nominal weapon usage, and my scores are always way better when i use the weapon almost exclusively. It should not be that way is what I am trying to point out.
Weapons do outtrump powers.
Might be because you take es, that power is irrelevant on plat, last plat match i used in all one clip of my harrier and scored second with only a thousand difference to a typhoon destroyer (considering it was match full of legionaires that can carry gold with any class...)
A well played shadow does not need ammo, cept for some cover fire or as finisher
Can you do better with the same skill level, just using your weapon with cloak as a damage buff though. People score high with just about anything that are well skilled, that wasn't the point. The point was potential.
Pedactor wrote...
GallowsPole wrote...
Take annhilation field into the middle of a mob and then detonate it. Powers rule.
That works well on Platinum...........
ShadedPhoenix wrote...
Lol @landylan, i am terribly sorry that you think that, i guess a week on shadow camp could teach you
No i used shadowstrike to move around, watch the flanks and deal with hunter and phantoms and their likes, used my sword for damage and essentialy picked high priority targets and revived as well as objective running.
But what do i say, people keep telling me the only way i could had make my revenant work was with killstealing and that its recoil is unbearable
Scrubs be scrubs
Pedactor wrote...
I agree power based classes need something, but with that said:
Every Soldier BUT the Destroyer still largely sucks.
Human Soldiers have their fans, but that's like saying Drellguards aren't terrible because it has fans, too.
Suggestions:
1) Humans: Stronger baseline shield buff from AR, stronger baseline shields and health, Conc Shot damage buffed 25%.
2) Turian: Marksman turned into a mode, not a CD. Conc. Shot damage buffed 25%. Turians can now roll (for the love of God.....)
3) Krogan: Carnage damage needs buffed, Inferno Grenades are the second worst grenades next to Sticky. Buff.
4) Batarian: They actually work OK. Need to learn to roll or something, too. Nobody specs Bladed Armor that I know on this guy since they'd rather use the Grenades and especially the Blades.
5) Vorcha: Carnage damage needs buffed. Stop popping me out of cover to let me know you killed something. Act like you've been there. Also, since you don't need oxygen, stop pretending to breathe. You make me clear my throat IRL. These guys aren't bad, really just my general hatred of the vermin of the Galaxy.
upinya slayin wrote...
Gockey wrote...
corporal doody wrote...
yeah...biotic users have gradually declined. better weapons...powerhouse and high dps classes have helped. each DLC has helped.
they should have never nerfed BE
edit...and more often than not it has been tough doing BE's now as a lone biotic...cuz badguys are getting mowed down before you can blow um up,,,assuming someone hasnt hit it with overload or energy drain...
Yeah see I disagree with this. I think the ability for BE's should still be there I just think it should require a gear or something. AA's were a ticket to Gold matches for low level players initially. If you could smack that phantom in stasis and warp/throw everything else you were golden. Really more powerful than a lot of gun classes.
However now the table is reversed. Guns outstrip biotics by a fair clip. There should be some type of gear or something that rewards players with stronger (see larger, faster, or stronger) BE's just like more PSP's offer better guns.
this also lmits low level people form playing gold. before a level 21N7 with a level 20 biotic could easily top a gold leaderboard, but now they can't
Modifié par corporal doody, 24 juillet 2012 - 04:27 .
Pedactor wrote...
I agree power based classes need something, but with that said:
Every Soldier BUT the Destroyer still largely sucks.
Human Soldiers have their fans, but that's like saying Drellguards aren't terrible because it has fans, too.
Chromatix wrote...
Mass Effect 3 degenerating - having AP mods on more important that skill now.
landylan wrote...
You used one harrier clip... and no electric slash.... You had to have only spammed shadow strike to get the finishing kill on targets. Your team would have to play an exceptionally terrible game if they let you get a highscore by spamming worthless shadowstrike.xtorma wrote...
ShadedPhoenix wrote...
#xtorma wrote...
dr_random wrote...
xtorma wrote...
Honestly , I can do more damage (get higher score) by using a pirhana on my shadow , and just using cloak for damage buff, then i ever could using SS and ES.
You may do more damage, but do you apply it to the optimal target? What's the point picking a Shadow when another infiltrator could just do the job, too?
SS is useful to go get downed teamates, and to reposition around the map quickly. I have tried to use es and ss with just nominal weapon usage, and my scores are always way better when i use the weapon almost exclusively. It should not be that way is what I am trying to point out.
Weapons do outtrump powers.
Might be because you take es, that power is irrelevant on plat, last plat match i used in all one clip of my harrier and scored second with only a thousand difference to a typhoon destroyer (considering it was match full of legionaires that can carry gold with any class...)
A well played shadow does not need ammo, cept for some cover fire or as finisher
Can you do better with the same skill level, just using your weapon with cloak as a damage buff though. People score high with just about anything that are well skilled, that wasn't the point. The point was potential.
forehead wrote...
Sdrol117 wrote...
corporal doody wrote...
upinya slayin wrote...
RoZh2400 wrote...
You clearly never played with a roaming biotic death squad. N7 Fury, Asari Adept, Turian Sentinel, Drell Adept. Blows the hell out of reapers...so fast, even Cerberus (except Atlas because they have so many shields)
I've played every combo of eevrything. I have completed platinum with an all biotics team. I know it works very well, i'm just making the point that BEs still don't compare to DPS of some new classes/guns. BEs used to be sooo powerful and weapons oculdn't keep up. Now its kinda been reversed in a way,
yeah...biotic users have gradually declined. better weapons...powerhouse and high dps classes have helped. each DLC has helped.
they should have never nerfed BE
wrong.
Truly an elegantly worded argument, one for the ages. Socrates himself could do no better.
xtorma wrote...
ShadedPhoenix wrote...
Lol @landylan, i am terribly sorry that you think that, i guess a week on shadow camp could teach you
No i used shadowstrike to move around, watch the flanks and deal with hunter and phantoms and their likes, used my sword for damage and essentialy picked high priority targets and revived as well as objective running.
But what do i say, people keep telling me the only way i could had make my revenant work was with killstealing and that its recoil is unbearable
Scrubs be scrubs
Can you one hit kill pyros and hunters and such on platinum with your build? Not doubting here, just asking so i can maybe refine my build a bit, without all the work and dieing and stuff
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