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July 24, 2012 Balance Changes


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LeandroBraz

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ryoldschool wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Dachau Joseph wrote...

Jesus, just stop beating around the bush and re-name these "weekly balance changes" threads to what they really are.

July 24, 2012 Weekly Nerfs


Yeah, it's not like they buff more often than they nerf or anything.

But hey, don't let reality get in the way of your disingenuous assertions, Joe.


I actually did the math over it:
https://docs.google....OWk5eTFYSmtzc1E

It's a lot more buffs than nerfs


I will mention again, the things they buff, I hardly see much difference.  The Collector assault rifle they buffed three times, but its still worthless.   However, when they "balance" an item that you spent a lot of PSP in order to get, it seems like it hurts a lot more.    I have Indra at 9, Javelin at X, BW at 9, etc and the damage reduction they did on TC reduced the damage I could do with all those weapons.

So numerically there might be more buffs, gameplay-wise there have been more nerfs for me.


-I use the vindicator a lot, I felt the last buff the weapon got.
-I didn't used the vorcha flamer yet, but I'm sure the new range come in hand.
-I being seing a lot more people using the mattock, so I believe the buff did some good.
-I definitely felt the combat drone buff, didn't used the turret yet but it was basically the same buff
- Barrier, fortification, blade armor and rage buff was definitely effective

and there's a lot more weapons that I ddin't used yet after buff. The difference here is that nerf do much more noise, since it require from the users of that weapon to adapt, so it get a lot more attention when it happen. Buff people just see it when they do, then they forgot. But we have a lot more buffs, some of them was enough to make the weapon good, others received more than one before it could be called a good weapon, others, still require more attention, in the end of the day, we got more buffs.

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PanzerGr3nadier

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Someone said at SDCC 2012 that if we keep playing (MP), They'll keep making it.

Quite frankly I've seen more "kick in the balls" nerfs than actual balances...

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Wow, this has to be the worst balance changes I've seen so far.What a disgrace.

I haven't actually used the krysae for a month or so but these changes are ridiculous. Let's ignore the fact that all snipers suck now and rape the last good one, also the only one that was good on non infiltrators.

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"- Fix for some uncommon gear not showing up in Spectre + Spectre Premium packs"

...I call bs, draw a card

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Thanks for missile glitch fix :-) Restored my faith in your QA team.

PS: OK, it's more like a work-around than a path, but still.

Modifié par Bravenu3, 24 juillet 2012 - 07:57 .


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Poison_Berrie

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The Krysea nerf seems a bit excessive, the rest looks good.

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Nice to see BW fixing the things that need fixing. *sarcasm* The rocket glitch gets fixed but not the Vanguard glitch...guess the sh** that gets fixed is the sh** that costs BW credits.

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Rifneno wrote...

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Alright cool. Now unban the glitchers.


To hell with them.  They shouldn't ruin the game for everyone else.  Let them stay banned forever.


Keep them banned for just wanting ez credits for a shop system run by TrollEngine AKA RNG? Alright.

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Bravenu3 wrote...

Thanks for missile glitch fix :-) Restored my faith in your QA team.

PS: OK, it's more like a work-around than a path, but still.


All this time and they didn't even need a real patch to fix it.  They could've done it on any of the balance changes.  And this restores your faith in them?  You have some very low standards.

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KnightOscar wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

Alright cool. Now unban the glitchers.


To hell with them.  They shouldn't ruin the game for everyone else.  Let them stay banned forever.


Keep them banned for just wanting ez credits for a shop system run by TrollEngine AKA RNG? Alright.


Yeah, unban them, so they can find another glitch and cheat again, sure that if they get banned, bioware will unban them!!!

No, thanks. This will make them think next time they play MP in any other game. 

About the store, we all use it, we all fall under the same god of random unlock stuffs, only them cheated. Legitimate players ask for changes :) cheat is for loosers.

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Bravenu3 wrote...Thanks for missile glitch fix :-) Restored my faith in your QA team.






I'm glad that they fixed it.





But on the otherhand, I honestly can't wait what they come up with next week... More gameplay-wise nerfs or single weapon beatdowns??

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LeandroBraz wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

Alright cool. Now unban the glitchers.


To hell with them.  They shouldn't ruin the game for everyone else.  Let them stay banned forever.


Keep them banned for just wanting ez credits for a shop system run by TrollEngine AKA RNG? Alright.


Yeah, unban them, so they can find another glitch and cheat again, sure that if they get banned, bioware will unban them!!!

No, thanks. This will make them think next time they play MP in any other game. 

About the store, we all use it, we all fall under the same god of random unlock stuffs, only them cheated. Legitimate players ask for changes :) cheat is for loosers.


It really isn't that bad. Are you like legitmately being griefed by these people? Is this like something being used against you?

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Ryan_H wrote...

Nice to see BW fixing the things that need fixing. *sarcasm* The rocket glitch gets fixed but not the Vanguard glitch...guess the sh** that gets fixed is the sh** that costs BW credits.

I think it has more to do with this being something they can do with INI tweaks, well the other glitches/bugs need to be patched.

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Rifneno wrote...

Bravenu3 wrote...

Thanks for missile glitch fix :-) Restored my faith in your QA team.

PS: OK, it's more like a work-around than a path, but still.


All this time and they didn't even need a real patch to fix it.  They could've done it on any of the balance changes.  And this restores your faith in them?  You have some very low standards.


Do you know the reason why they didn't done it sooner? So, you are judging them based on what? They probably ad their reason for not doing sooner...

 I felt like they are doing it just to hold things, but will give a real fix in the next patch...

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I can understand the Typhoon penetration nerd. It was a full-auto weapon with a 2x damage modifier and the same deep penetration as the Javelin. Though I would have only halved the penetration instead.

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Execution on Gold and Platinum ? Really ?

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BabyfaceAssassin wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

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Yay, more nerfs.

Now time to nerf the new classes. The Destroyer and the others are way OP.




Uh no each n7 class works the way they are suppose to perform I don't think any of them need nerfing O_O


Yes, the new classes work, in fact they work too well. The new classes are OP (except for the Paladin).
I think that they need to nerf them.
They also need to nerf the Reegar Carbine & N7 Piranah in the next update.


Shut up


Come on. Be polite now. You know as well as I do that Bioware knows that they need to nerf these new classes.
No need to be rude. I am just stating the obvious.


You know the new N7 classes are supposed to be platinum viable right?

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LeandroBraz

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KnightOscar wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

Alright cool. Now unban the glitchers.


To hell with them.  They shouldn't ruin the game for everyone else.  Let them stay banned forever.


Keep them banned for just wanting ez credits for a shop system run by TrollEngine AKA RNG? Alright.


Yeah, unban them, so they can find another glitch and cheat again, sure that if they get banned, bioware will unban them!!!

No, thanks. This will make them think next time they play MP in any other game. 

About the store, we all use it, we all fall under the same god of random unlock stuffs, only them cheated. Legitimate players ask for changes :) cheat is for loosers.


It really isn't that bad. Are you like legitmately being griefed by these people? Is this like something being used against you?


off course it's against me!! I play this game, it isn't fun if there's someone killing everything with a glitch, they are killing my fun, and the fun off the majority, that just want to play it, without cheats. They don't have this right. Plus, people won't keep playing if every match they fall, is ruined by cheaters. If people stop playing, goodbye MP, goodbye future patches and DLCs o/

it definitely being used against me....

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m1lanov wrote...

Execution on Gold and Platinum ? Really ?


Yes, as in having a big penalty that you have on lower levels is now on higher levels where should always have been.

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Bhatair wrote...

Oh please people, from one meter to a quater of a meter penetration is hardly a nerf. It just means you can't shoot through thicker walls without the penetration mod or AP ammo now. Jeez.

All I care about with it is omnomnoming Guardians through their shields, and enemies from behind thin cover.

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jerrinehart wrote...

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Well Sniper Rifles are officially dead now, anyone saying otherwise is clueless.


Yet, here I am, rocking with my Valiant.
/clueless



Clearly you didn't play before they removed head shots to boss types. Lol, they aren't even HALF as good as they used to be, not too mention the TC nerf. Anyone still using a SR on an Infiltrator is not using it to the best of it's ability. Or did you just say that to argue a point that is so obvious that you are just trolling?


Or maybe your just simply not as good as you thought you were.

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Tal_Elmar wrote...

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did the typhoon really need a nerf I mean the destroyer is the only class that can really make good use out of it isn't it?


It's not a nerf , it's balance.

Mate, there's no balance in this game, and you know it. So stop telling ***


Of course I know it. I have to say it though, because balance is cool.

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last platinum match (my mistake) my rocket launcher started kind of firing full auto wasting a whole 4 of them, because now rockets land so fast that you can't tell if you really shoot >.>
but nvm as long as the glitch is solved

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Ryan_H wrote...

Nice to see BW fixing the things that need fixing. *sarcasm* The rocket glitch gets fixed but not the Vanguard glitch...guess the sh** that gets fixed is the sh** that costs BW credits.

QFTW

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I'm more than a little weary of people saying they do more buffs than nerfs. While it is technically true, the magnitude varies. Greatly. The eagle has had a bunch of buffs but they were small and the weapon still sucks compared to the hurricane and valiant. The falcon took one nerf but it was hit so hard there was a mushroom cloud. Yeah yeah, I know, "it's still useful (as an ammo effect delivery system)." That doesn't mean it didn't get hit hard enough to spear a 3 foot wide hole in a bank vault door.