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Execution on Gold and Platinum ? Really ?


Yes, as in having a big penalty that you have on lower levels is now on higher levels where should always have been.


Yes,but at least on silver and bronze your teammates actually have a chance of reviving you...I just played Cerberus/Golg  and the second anyone went down an Assault Trooper or Centurion teleported over them  and smashed their faces :pinched:

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Oh man can't believe they nerfed my favorite sniper. Had such a hard time today on Platinum with it, it was one of my go to, trusty Krysae. It's so awkward now it's such a shame. Hate the pause, even the 50 points damage difference.

I mainly use the gun when I find myself playing with low level players on Gold too, now with the long pause between fire it really changes things. Comfort, ease of use, the people I'll play with, the matches I'll join, etc. Speed runs as well. What a shame.

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If you hold down the fire button too long with missiles equipped on xbox you will now fire (and waste) multiple missiles. Thumbs down. :(

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Mendelevosa wrote...

Or maybe your just simply not as good as you thought you were.


What would you guys do if you had to formulate a coherent argument instead of just the "works 4 me u must suk lulz" drivel?  I mean, would you stop posting altogether or what?

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Ok, so question for Bioware if possible: are we supposed to stick to pistols and shotguns? I've seen neither get touched and and there are plenty of viable ones. ARs, SRs, and SMGs are all in terrible need of buffs and you just keep nerfing. Nerfed the Typhoon, the Krysae. Are we getting the right message here, that you don't want us using those weapon classes? Waiting for the Harrier nerf that's inevitably coming, it's a viable weapon!

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Tiny buffs on behalf of mighty nerfs...That's how I see it. On the other hand the game is still playable at any difficulty

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Nice to see BW fixing the things that need fixing. *sarcasm* The rocket glitch gets fixed but not the Vanguard glitch...guess the sh** that gets fixed is the sh** that costs BW credits.


They didn't fixed it, they took out what was making the missile glitch, which is by far more easy than releasing a patch to actually fix something. 


 How hard is to just be happy that you won't fall anymore in missile glitch lobbies?

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Well the Krysae has been completely nerfed into the ground now. The Typhoon really didn't need a nerf, but I guess the AP mod can fix that one. Though it is good that they fixed the rocket glitch (well actually I guess we'll have to see if it actually works but at least they tried).

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DeathIsHere wrote...

Ok, so question for Bioware if possible: are we supposed to stick to pistols and shotguns? I've seen neither get touched and and there are plenty of viable ones. ARs, SRs, and SMGs are all in terrible need of buffs and you just keep nerfing. Nerfed the Typhoon, the Krysae. Are we getting the right message here, that you don't want us using those weapon classes? Waiting for the Harrier nerf that's inevitably coming, it's a viable weapon!



Go to the balance changes topic, read it with attention, see how wrong you are.


 Really, BSN is a perfect demonstration of how much blind people like to be.

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Hmm, Krysae is now totally useless for every char except Infs and is still one of the best for Infs, great job with that nerf :)) You took a mediocre wpn and just ruined it. Here is a brilliant idea, if Infs are so good with it and others not, maybe nerf Infs more? Or move Krysae to Assault Rifles category?

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Their seems to be more lag and longer match finding times for me.

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LeandroBraz wrote...

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LeandroBraz wrote...

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Alright cool. Now unban the glitchers.


To hell with them.  They shouldn't ruin the game for everyone else.  Let them stay banned forever.


Keep them banned for just wanting ez credits for a shop system run by TrollEngine AKA RNG? Alright.


Yeah, unban them, so they can find another glitch and cheat again, sure that if they get banned, bioware will unban them!!!

No, thanks. This will make them think next time they play MP in any other game. 

About the store, we all use it, we all fall under the same god of random unlock stuffs, only them cheated. Legitimate players ask for changes :) cheat is for loosers.


It really isn't that bad. Are you like legitmately being griefed by these people? Is this like something being used against you?


off course it's against me!! I play this game, it isn't fun if there's someone killing everything with a glitch, they are killing my fun, and the fun off the majority, that just want to play it, without cheats. They don't have this right. Plus, people won't keep playing if every match they fall, is ruined by cheaters. If people stop playing, goodbye MP, goodbye future patches and DLCs o/

it definitely being used against me....


Like farmers are any better. People complain about them all the time and how they make the game easier and boring but do you see them getting banned? No. They're just trying to do their best to beat TrollEngine.

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Oh wow.

Pleased about the missile glitch fix.

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Jeffry wrote...

Hmm, Krysae is now totally useless for every char except Infs and is still one of the best for Infs, great job with that nerf :)) You took a mediocre wpn and just ruined it. Here is a brilliant idea, if Infs are so good with it and others not, maybe nerf Infs more? Or move Krysae to Assault Rifles category?


So you want to nerf infiltrators into the ground? Dude no, the one nerf was enough.

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If BW thinks the krysae was too powerful, they haven't seen grenades.

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Nerfs...nerfs everywhere

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These changes suck, Krysae is now nerfed into oblivion and they nerfed the new UR before a lot of people could get it. I hate nerfers so much -__-

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nicethugbert wrote...

If BW thinks the krysae was too powerful, they haven't seen grenades.


Well they are grenades they do what they are suppose to.  This thing was a rocket launcher pretending to be a sniper rifle.

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KnightOscar wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

Alright cool. Now unban the glitchers.


To hell with them.  They shouldn't ruin the game for everyone else.  Let them stay banned forever.


Keep them banned for just wanting ez credits for a shop system run by TrollEngine AKA RNG? Alright.


Yeah, unban them, so they can find another glitch and cheat again, sure that if they get banned, bioware will unban them!!!

No, thanks. This will make them think next time they play MP in any other game. 

About the store, we all use it, we all fall under the same god of random unlock stuffs, only them cheated. Legitimate players ask for changes :) cheat is for loosers.


It really isn't that bad. Are you like legitmately being griefed by these people? Is this like something being used against you?


off course it's against me!! I play this game, it isn't fun if there's someone killing everything with a glitch, they are killing my fun, and the fun off the majority, that just want to play it, without cheats. They don't have this right. Plus, people won't keep playing if every match they fall, is ruined by cheaters. If people stop playing, goodbye MP, goodbye future patches and DLCs o/

it definitely being used against me....


Like farmers are any better. People complain about them all the time and how they make the game easier and boring but do you see them getting banned? No. They're just trying to do their best to beat TrollEngine.


because farming isn't cheating!! They are playing the game in a legitimate way, they are holding an area where the enemies can't flank them, but they are doing it with the same tools we have to play normal, not with infinite missiles. If their missiles and medigels end, they won't have more to use. They have to reload weapons, get ammo, use powers and weapons to kill the enemies. Same as us. Completely different from cheaters. Annoying if you try a quick match, but a legitimate way to play.

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LeandroBraz wrote...

DeathIsHere wrote...

Ok, so question for Bioware if possible: are we supposed to stick to pistols and shotguns? I've seen neither get touched and and there are plenty of viable ones. ARs, SRs, and SMGs are all in terrible need of buffs and you just keep nerfing. Nerfed the Typhoon, the Krysae. Are we getting the right message here, that you don't want us using those weapon classes? Waiting for the Harrier nerf that's inevitably coming, it's a viable weapon!



Go to the balance changes topic, read it with attention, see how wrong you are.


 Really, BSN is a perfect demonstration of how much blind people like to be.


I have. They increase the damage of a couple ARs by about 10 points. Awesome. But where's the increases for the sniper rifles that were damaged during the TC nerf? Where's the buffs for the SMGs that are badly needed while we wait for the ULM fix that's been promised since the first patch? How about before you go calling somebody blind, you take your own advice and read with attention. There are so many things that need buffs right now, go read GodlessPaladin's balance thread. Yet what we're getting is weapon nerfs to the good weapons, buffs to the enemies, etc.

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Master Xanthan wrote...

Jeffry wrote...

Hmm, Krysae is now totally useless for every char except Infs and is still one of the best for Infs, great job with that nerf :)) You took a mediocre wpn and just ruined it. Here is a brilliant idea, if Infs are so good with it and others not, maybe nerf Infs more? Or move Krysae to Assault Rifles category?


So you want to nerf infiltrators into the ground? Dude no, the one nerf was enough.


No, not to the ground, but nerfing a wpn because one class is awesome with it makes no sense at all.

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Just spent another 340k credits (on top of the over 800,000 in the past week) with still ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BUT CONSUMABLES. I've got 16 ranks of rare gear still missing and who knows how many uncommon gear slots and yet every single pack (including the 4 spectres and 1 PSP after this patch) gives me nothing but stuff that expires in a single round. Is this glitch even acknowledged? I've been saving up credits and refuse to spend real MSP on the DLC if I'm only going to get consumables. I'm not expecting URs every 3rd pack like some people here whine about but I do think that I should have something/anything to show for after a half dozen PSP and a dozen spectres that I've bought when I clearly have dozens of slots in my manifest yet to be filled.

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Curb stomping makes gold a lot more boring hard and frustrating. It sucks a lot to be in spectator mode. This change was unnecessary :(.

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LeandroBraz wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

KnightOscar wrote...

Alright cool. Now unban the glitchers.


To hell with them.  They shouldn't ruin the game for everyone else.  Let them stay banned forever.


Keep them banned for just wanting ez credits for a shop system run by TrollEngine AKA RNG? Alright.


Yeah, unban them, so they can find another glitch and cheat again, sure that if they get banned, bioware will unban them!!!

No, thanks. This will make them think next time they play MP in any other game. 

About the store, we all use it, we all fall under the same god of random unlock stuffs, only them cheated. Legitimate players ask for changes :) cheat is for loosers.


It really isn't that bad. Are you like legitmately being griefed by these people? Is this like something being used against you?


off course it's against me!! I play this game, it isn't fun if there's someone killing everything with a glitch, they are killing my fun, and the fun off the majority, that just want to play it, without cheats. They don't have this right. Plus, people won't keep playing if every match they fall, is ruined by cheaters. If people stop playing, goodbye MP, goodbye future patches and DLCs o/

it definitely being used against me....


Like farmers are any better. People complain about them all the time and how they make the game easier and boring but do you see them getting banned? No. They're just trying to do their best to beat TrollEngine.


because farming isn't cheating!! They are playing the game in a legitimate way, they are holding an area where the enemies can't flank them, but they are doing it with the same tools we have to play normal, not with infinite missiles. If their missiles and medigels end, they won't have more to use. They have to reload weapons, get ammo, use powers and weapons to kill the enemies. Same as us. Completely different from cheaters. Annoying if you try a quick match, but a legitimate way to play.


I understand where you're coming from now. You just don't like them using an exploit. But it to me the logic people often use kinda sounds familiar to the complaints people have for farmers.

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Rifneno wrote...

Mendelevosa wrote...

Or maybe your just simply not as good as you thought you were.


What would you guys do if you had to formulate a coherent argument instead of just the "works 4 me u must suk lulz" drivel?  I mean, would you stop posting altogether or what?


Because coherence is unnecesary for people to be able to understand their constant crying is pointless. Not to mention people are assuming sniper is completely useless in any scenario post balance changes. As an infiltrator with a sniper I have been able to score within the top half of the scoreboard while at the same time killing enemies, reviving teammates, and completing objectives. Heck, I've been outscored by people using common/uncommon items and characters while I used rare and ultra rare items. If people can't adapt to changes, then that's their fault.

People always want to have their cake and eat it at the same time, when they shouldn't.