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July 24, 2012 Balance Changes


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#476
AwesomeBabyLion

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Tronar wrote...

Bhatair wrote...

Woah, krysae nerf again? Ouch. I don't even use it but ouch.


Yeah, it's the second Krysae nerf! Apparently one nerf wasn't enough for all the "overpowered" cry-babies.
And this time they nerfed the crap out of the weapon. I mean:

Krysae Sniper Rifle
- Damage decreased from [476.0-595.0] to [429.0-548.0]
- Rate of fire decreased from [50] to [35]
- Recoil Increased from [5.0] to [10.0]
- Zoom Recoil Increased from [3.0] to [5.0]
- Total ammo dropped from [9-21] to [9-18]

Really? While you're at it, why not increase the encumbrance and take away the carnage effect, to make absolutely sure that nobody will ever touch the weapon again?

I really liked the weapon on my vorcha. I tried it yesterday after the balance changes were out. Mainly because of the decreased rate of fire, you are now quite helpless against some enemies.

Thanks for ruining a fine (and already nerfed) weapon, Bioware!

How about fixing some real problems like the Vanguard glitch???

Tronar


The nerf seems a bit excessive indeed, but then again it was far to dominant before. I never used it because it was so powerful. That said, I think there should have been a middle ground here. It's suppose to be a good, rare weapon so it needs to keep some of its ompf! I'm sure they will buff it again a bit next balance round, hopefully mind a place inbetween. It's a cool weapon, but it was far to strong before, and it seems to weak now. Going to have to try it out some later today before I say anything for sure Image IPB

#477
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Aside from the missile glitch-fix, these changes are terrible... Every time they nerf a gun, they pretty much remove it from the game entirely. Nobody is going to use a piece of junk unless they just really like to die. The stomping thing sounds like it could get very annoying... And why does every decent assault rifle get nerfed!? There are NO overpowered assault rifles!

Bad calls. I love a challenge, but...bad calls.

#478
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Like the changes overall. Krysae when it first came out it is so overpowered that there is no point using other SRs like Black Widow since krysae does more damage and has AOE and ignores shield and it even renders timing skills, which is what being a sniper is all about, pointless thanks to it's proximity fuse that hits enemy in cover or indeed anywhere. It becomes the no-brainer choice for snipers and indeed anybody. It's so much that I tend to hide somewhere and relax while they krysae the hell out of everything. In fact, I can safely say that I had never lose a match that has krysae in it, me or any player, gold or not.

Yes its insane damage is nerfed once but it makes little difference. Gold matches still become incredibly easy with krysae infiltrators and there is no point using anything else when a few shots kill everything in the room. Now, finally, its being brought downed. It'll still kill everything in the room, but at least now not as insanely fast. Finally, there is a reason to bring my Black Widow to a gold match.

However, I agree with many people in that many weapons do need a buff now that many new weapons has arrive, obviously better than the old. A few weapons are in DIRE need of a buff because otherwise there is no point using them.....

-Wraith

Even I, who likes the weapon a lot, have to agree that it is the least useful UR weapon ever. Yes it is probably the most balanced shotgun in the game, but unfortunately UR is anything but balanced. For something so rare you expect it to blow just about all shotguns away, but it doesn't.

IMO the Geth Plasma Shotgun should've been the UR shotgun instead of Wraith all along, but its probably too late to address that now. Wraith should have more damage, slightly faster firing rate and slightly more accurate to deserve a UR rank. It is suppose to better than Eviscerator in everyway, but now it just feels like a Eviscerator that's tuned differently. Don't touch the ammo and weight though, they're just fine.

- Incisor

Incisor, being the same rank as Raptor, it should've something that is better than the latter, but no. It just feels totally inferior. I believe that the best thing you can do to buff this thing is to reduce the recoil. Really reduce it. Raptor has better damage per round and less recoil. Incisor should've near zero recoil. Then you need to increase the damage per bullet to over the raptor one. Raptor still fires faster so its DPS is still better, but Incisor should not be totally inferior.

I think other weapons are less dire of a buff compare to these two. BUFF THESE TWO FIRST.

#479
PanzerGr3nadier

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ralvareziii wrote...worst balance change ive ever seen only 1 good thing ive pretty much lost faith...






Guess you didnt see the Inf. nerfing episode....





Really looking forward to the day when they start to nerf soldier and sentinel classes... and when that day dawns... it dawns in fire!!!

#480
2Shepards

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First time I have actually noticed the changes implemented in gameplay.


BOOOOOhisssssssssssss the stomping like freaking wild fire!

#481
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Gears still not working

#482
D.Shepard

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More Stomping enemies means more de facto solo runs. With all those not very good players I'm meeting they will dead before I can rescue them.

I suspect this "balance" won't make my matches funner.

#483
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Krysae v2.0

http://t0.gstatic.co...YY3MK0RFfglCu5Q

Krysae 2.0 fired on a husk

Image IPB

#484
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The krysae may have been used as a crutch for people to play above their skill level, but it was also an equalizer for people like me who have to take up for slack of people who can't even pass a simple GGW match. Now I no longer have that option and have to rely on people who still use krogans on gold, black widows and claymores on engineers and adepts, and those who never help with objectives.

Modifié par Mariachi 43, 25 juillet 2012 - 03:56 .


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ElectroNeonPanda

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D.Shepard wrote...

More Stomping enemies means more de facto solo runs. With all those not very good players I'm meeting they will dead before I can rescue them.

I suspect this "balance" won't make my matches funner.


Yeah, I noticed that myself earlier.  The change doesn't make bad players any more likely to use gels, it just means I have less time to revive them, which often equates to me dying in my haste to get to them before they get stomped.  The other option being I solo waves while people don't even attempt to stay alive.  It's the new leeching.

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Okay, after all the claims that the Krysae is now useless, I took my Quarian Male Infiltrator out and used my Krysae as usual, and easily topped the chart in points.

It fires a little bit slower now, and does a little less damage, but it still very easy to pop out of cover and 'hit' something without needing to take hardly any time aiming, it still knockbacks, it still does AoE damage (great for applying ammo effects), and it still is a darn good gun.

It no longer overshadows every other sniper rifle, but it still is plenty effective on gold. I will be continuing the use this gun as it is still awesome, and I can now do so without people complaining about me using a 'cheap' and 'overpowered' gun.

Modifié par Bathaius, 25 juillet 2012 - 10:17 .


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DESTRAUDO

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Oh man. The stomping on gold is awesome. I have watched enemies down someone from close range and go straight into the stomp hahahahahahah (really i am crying inside.)

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Bathaius wrote...

Okay, after all the claims that the Krysae is now useless, I took my Quarian Male Infiltrator out and used my Krysae as usual, and easily topped the chart in points.

It fires a little bit slower now, and does a little less damage, but it still very easy to pop out of cover and 'hit' something without needing to take hardly any time aiming, it still knockbacks, it still does AoE damage (great for applying ammo effects), and it still is a darn good gun.

It no longer overshadows every other sniper rifle, but it still is plenty effective on gold. I will be continuing the use this gun as it is still awesome, and I can now do so without people complaining about me using a 'cheap' and 'overpowered' gun.


I think what many of us were saying was that it would only be useful on Infiltrators now.  You didn't disprove this.

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I called for these krysae nerfs 16 hours after rebellion launched. Took you long enough!

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Hooray to the end of missile glitching.