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[Haersvaelg]

Nice and well-deserved nerf.

I prefer that they nerfed it, even if overdone, since it really was too good, considering you don't exactly needed to be a sniping god to be extremely effective with it.

[N7-RedFox]

nukembaby wrote...

Like others have said, the Krysae is effectively a one-shot sniper rifle now--as it should have been in the first place. I like it better now...because I don't feel like I'm cheating by using it.

The trouble with Krysae now, is that it cannot kill even the weakest of enemies on Gold or Platinum unless you calmly ask the AI to sit down and die. All while ur beard gets longer,  waiting 8 seconds every time u want your Krysae to empty a clip.

[N7-RedFox]

Haersvaelg wrote...

Nice and well-deserved nerf.

I prefer that they nerfed it, even if overdone, since it really was too good, considering you don't exactly needed to be a sniping god to be extremely effective with it.

That fact that you said that, proves you don't play infiltrator. Coz all the other sniper rifles have been utter dog turd ever since Bioware removed headshot damage from bosses. Essentially snipers were punished for being good at aiming with regular sniper rifles.

Then came along the Krysae. Something which did about as much damage to bosses as headshotting used to do to them. Go figure every sniper started using the Krysae. It was the only damned effective sniper rifle left!

Now even the Krysae has been turned into a useless POS because it can't fire fast enough to keep u alive anymore in Gold/Plat.

Snipers also had their TC evolution 6 nerfed (sniper rifle damage nerfed by 15%). And base cloak got nerfed to 4 seconds. The entire class is not doing what it should be (sniping). All the decent players have switched to shotguns because they are the only weapons worth using now on Gold/Plat. Soldiers of course have Typhoon and Harrier for those difficulties but that is besides the point.

Sniping is as dead as a Dodo now and as far as Bioware is concerned, its not coming back.

Modifié par CaptainTeabag, 25 juillet 2012 - 06:43 .

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

AYE AYE CAPTIAN

i wont say its dead in gold but in plat no infiltrator will use a SR when a Shotty is so much better

[Major_Kong]

You can't get headshots or penetrate cover. It never was as OP as the nerfers cried. It was just easy to use. The weapons popullarity had ebbed anyway in the weeks preceding the release of the earth dlc. What is really nonsensical is that nerfing new content defeats the purpose of developing it to begin with.

[xtorma]

My thoughts are.... it's done. Nothing to be done about it now.

[N7-RedFox]

xtorma wrote...

My thoughts are.... it's done. Nothing to be done about it now.

On the contrary - Bioware could change its rate of fire in next week's balance changes. All they have to do is amend a few numbers again.

Modifié par CaptainTeabag, 25 juillet 2012 - 07:59 .

[Vlta]

Since this whole nerfing crusade against the infiltrators I have rarely seen an infiltrator being used in mulitplayer, the few that I do see tend not to even bother with sniper rifles so this whole Krysae nerf is just another step in trying to force snipers onto the edge of the cliff....and then they'll give the swift kick off.

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

xtorma wrote...

My thoughts are.... it's done. Nothing to be done about it now.

On the contrary - Bioware could change its rate of fire in next week's balance changes. All they have to do is amend a few numbers again.

nump it back to 50 RoF damage nerf i dont really care

[Upfunkt]

Vlta wrote...

Since this whole nerfing crusade against the infiltrators I have rarely seen an infiltrator being used in mulitplayer, the few that I do see tend not to even bother with sniper rifles so this whole Krysae nerf is just another step in trying to force snipers onto the edge of the cliff....and then they'll give the swift kick off.

Good. I was sick of ending up in matches with three Salarian Infiltrators who were worthless when they had to defend themselves in close quarters against multiple Phantoms because they were only carrying a Widow. Plus it's boring to play like that. Activate cloak. Use ED. Fire shot. Repeat. Where's the fun in that? I get more joy out of using an infiltrator with a shotgun and getting stealthy melee kills or attaching sticky grenades after closing in on a group of enemies.
My thoughts on the Krysae... equip it to a Turian Soldier. With Marksman on, the weapon performs almost exactly the way it did before the nerf.

[smilinpig]

 sucks....

[TrveOmegaSlayer]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

Haersvaelg wrote...

Nice and well-deserved nerf.

I prefer that they nerfed it, even if overdone, since it really was too good, considering you don't exactly needed to be a sniping god to be extremely effective with it.

That fact that you said that, proves you don't play infiltrator. Coz all the other sniper rifles have been utter dog turd ever since Bioware removed headshot damage from bosses. Essentially snipers were punished for being good at aiming with regular sniper rifles.

Then came along the Krysae. Something which did about as much damage to bosses as headshotting used to do to them. Go figure every sniper started using the Krysae. It was the only damned effective sniper rifle left!

Now even the Krysae has been turned into a useless POS because it can't fire fast enough to keep u alive anymore in Gold/Plat.

Snipers also had their TC evolution 6 nerfed (sniper rifle damage nerfed by 15%). And base cloak got nerfed to 4 seconds. The entire class is not doing what it should be (sniping). All the decent players have switched to shotguns because they are the only weapons worth using now on Gold/Plat. Soldiers of course have Typhoon and Harrier for those difficulties but that is besides the point.

Sniping is as dead as a Dodo now and as far as Bioware is concerned, its not coming back.

the only choice for snipers is the Valiant, for those few who have it

[Miriad]

When I used it on my GI, I cheesed the hell out of gold in the past. But now platinum is here, and I can play something challenging. The GI was very very strong with it obviously. Don't know if it still is or not.

That being said I still like AoE weapons for my Demolisher. Scorpion/Krysae /Falcon type. I mostly have used the Scorpion for the weight.... Don't think I'd swap it for the Krysae at this point.

[Princess Rolf]

GOOD! Now the UR and Promotional SR are better. As it should be. TY BW.

[Lord Rosario]

I don't like it... Mostly the lack of ammo. I feel those 3-4 shots missing when using it on my destroyer. T.T

[d_nought]

Not entirely warranted and basically limits it to the Geth or Turian Soldier. Maybe it did need a little bit of a nudge downwards, or the BW and Falcon to be buffed, but 35 RPM is pretty terrible.

Earth nerf seems inevitable now that the ball is rolling. Personally, I'd rather see that they make some of the older classes slightly more relevant. Glitched chill combo is the most glaring one, but some of the older rares that are complete garbage (GPR, Disciple et. al.) really need attention. I'd love to see a Vanguard fix, but it seems like it would be impossible within the current mechanics of the game. While I won't be completely indignant if (when?) Earth stuff is nerfed, gimping the new content after such a short time while ignoring all of the other crap that has stayed crap for such a long time is pretty insulting. They did right by the Human Soldier, Hurricane, Saber, Tech Armor, Blade Armor and whatnot, hopefully they'll pull through for fire/ice, D tier Rares, Pull, Singularity, general melee, the Wraith etc.

Modifié par chipsandwich, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:40 .

[PaperAlien]

I really don't care, never used it anyway.

[Upfunkt]

I wonder if the people who cry nerf have ever considered that the person scoring higher than them just might be a better player? I just finished a match with the Turian Soldier against Cerberus on Gold, equipped with a Krysae and Phaeston. I ended up scoring over a 100,000 points, 30,000 more than the 2nd placed player, got over fifty kills with the Phaeston, 20 headshots, and approximately 90 kills overall. Does this mean the Turian Soldier and the Phaeston should be nerfed too?

[Annelos]

If somebody was able to score high only with Krysae. it means that he was good only with Krysae back when it was OPed, which basically means that he wasn't good.

This weapon finally has the punch level it should bring. You have missile launcher and you have sniper rifles, Krysae was none & both simultaneusly with low learning curve to use it efficiently and KS enemies from more skilled team mates - everyone that scores high or relatively high on high difficulty levels and is mature enough will tell you the same thing.

Period.

[Upfunkt]

Annelos wrote...

If somebody was able to score high only with Krysae. it means that he was good only with Krysae back when it was OPed, which basically means that he wasn't good.

This weapon finally has the punch level it should bring. You have missile launcher and you have sniper rifles, Krysae was none & both simultaneusly with low learning curve to use it efficiently and KS enemies from more skilled team mates - everyone that scores high or relatively high on high difficulty levels and is mature enough will tell you the same thing.

Period.

The nerf doesn't bother me as I rarely used the weapon to begin with. As for teammates stealing kills? Why is that such a big deal to some people when it's a co-op game? If you notice this happening a lot and it bothers you that much why not address the shortcomings of whatever classes you're using to make them more efficient killers?

[FeralJester616]

Upfunkt wrote...

Annelos wrote...

If somebody was able to score high only with Krysae. it means that he was good only with Krysae back when it was OPed, which basically means that he wasn't good.

This weapon finally has the punch level it should bring. You have missile launcher and you have sniper rifles, Krysae was none & both simultaneusly with low learning curve to use it efficiently and KS enemies from more skilled team mates - everyone that scores high or relatively high on high difficulty levels and is mature enough will tell you the same thing.

Period.

The nerf doesn't bother me as I rarely used the weapon to begin with. As for teammates stealing kills? Why is that such a big deal to some people when it's a co-op game? If you notice this happening a lot and it bothers you that much why not address the shortcomings of whatever classes you're using to make them more efficient killers?

Firstly I'd like to say that Annelos sound like a PvP player trying to play a PvE CoOp. Kill stealing isn't possable in a CoOp. "Period"

Second I'd like to say that this last nerf was way over the top... The gun is basically useless now. Unable to OSK a canibal on bronze. (tested more than once with a GI Sniper spec)
Dafuq?!?!? The Viper does better now, especially as you can actually get headshots with it...