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#101
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I use the Kry a lot (along with Falcon back and forth). The Kry needed to be adjusted somehow. The fact that i can stun and such without even aiming for 3 shots was not gonna stay. I would think the recoil would have been enough. I dont know about this weapon from a Inf stance, but for me, I used for crowd control. Damage always kinda sucked.

So be it, I now join the masses: Not much purpose/need for this weapon anymore.

#102
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X M3TH0D1C4L X wrote...

Haloburner wrote...

SinerAthin wrote...

Obviously Bioware hates the idea of Sniper infiltrators.

Gonna say hello to my Reegar and Claymore, it seems... was fun being a sniper while it lasted though.

This nerf was more about how well it synergized with the Destroyer. Magazine size increase, RoF buff and accuracy buff... craziness.

But they should not be balancing a single weapon around one specific character. How is that balancing?

Every other class/character takes a huge hit.

That's BioWare for ya.

#103
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Angelwave wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

Scorpion does the same (at level X). In fact it is my weapon of choice for farm runs against geth on platinum. Has a larger clip than a Krysae, faster RoF (per clip), applies effects, and stunlocks anything dumb enough to wander too close to the rounds. Not to mention it can take out multiple enemies in a like fashion. Does that need a nerf, too, now?


You should have never let that thought be posted on here. :lol:


It's no secret to Bioware what their weapons can and cannot do. The scorpion is a niche weapon though and will probably escape a serious beating from the nerfbat. It just isn't that great as an all around weapon. For all around best weapon in the game I'd pick the GPS. It still can kick some serious booty, apply ammo effects, and is one of the few guns I've seen that will actually stun a banshee. It isn't extremely heavy and can be used by any class as well.

#104
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cly57 wrote...

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LOL, when I posted the first recorded solo of Platinum the day it was released using the Krysae, I got a number of responses about how it must have been "easy mode" since I used the Krysae on an Infiltrator. When the Krysae gets a nerf though... suddenly I see dozens of posters saying that the Krysae Infiltrator was already weak and is now just terrible.


LOL....I just posted in another thread that it was all your fault because of that first platinum match.  The developers probably hated that gun after you did the "impossible" with that gun.  It's all your fault GP.  :P


Heh, maybe.  I did carry a guy who said he never played multiplayer before through Platinum at Comicon with it right in front of the lead combat designer.  Then messaged him a video of my first go at a solo run with it right when Platinum was released.  >_>

It just seems a bit strange to me.  One moment every time I used a Krysae some people would downplay my performance by making comments about how I was using an overpowered weapon (including when I was using it on Engineers, not Infiltrators), then it gets a nerf and everyone is going on about how it wasn't useful before, nobody would use it, et cetera.  <_<

And then I see comments with people complaining about BW not making changes that the community wants or needs, and I have to wonder how they're supposed to know what this community wants.  You guys don't stay on-message and flip flop all over the place. :P

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 24 juillet 2012 - 06:53 .


#105
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DNC Protoman wrote...

Nerfed to oblivion. The nerfers have struck again.

Yep this weapon is now almost useless as the harpoon.
Shame looks like the only sniper I like is the Vailent.

#106
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Omega2079 wrote...

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The only thing they could do better is to remove it entirely from the game. It's an awful, badly designed weapon for people not willing to actually learn to play. I'm glad it got nerfed, it is well deserved. Hallelujah!


So it's about being spiteful to others, not balancing the game. Good to know.

No, it is not. Having a very powerful, very easy to use weapon is really bad for game balance. But I won't lie, I am satisfied with the nerf, -especially- that Krysae nerf threads weren't showing up anymore. Now Krysae fans have noone to blame.

#107
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 Much, much, much too harsh.  Honestly, it's an asinine nerf by people who barely play test their game.  If they did, this would have been touched on weeks ago and eased into.  Now the weapon is garbage.  Truth be told, since Platinum, it was pretty useless anyway.

#108
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Why do people complain about overpowered stuff? THIS IS COOPERATIVE MULTIPLAYER! You should be glad if something is overpowered!

#109
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Now they can buff tact cloak back.

#110
GodlessPaladin

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Djarknaein wrote...

Now they can buff tact cloak back.


Tactical Cloak was always more of a balance problem than the Krysae. 

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 24 juillet 2012 - 06:54 .


#111
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RIP Kryase, not worth using anymore on non infiltrators, I really enjoyed using it with the Destroyer/Demoilisher, as it was still viable in Platinum beacuse it didnt leave you exposed, but now its game over for it.

Modifié par brit316, 24 juillet 2012 - 06:55 .


#112
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Well, the nerfers got their tactical cloak nerf. Now the Krysae. It's not going to end here either, now that they know they can get their way by throwing tantrums on the forums.

#113
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I didn't equip it even once, so I'm pretty impartial from the standpoint of using it personally.

But I think what I didn't like about it wasn't the direct power so much as the fact it would still do reasonable to high damage if you missed and hit nearby scenery, or accidentally came close to an invisible enemy. I know that was sort-of the point of the gun, but...

#114
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Ziegrif wrote...

Dunno really I don't use it.
BTW have people noticed a strange trend that even if BW nerfs something by 1% people will declare the gun dead and never use it again?


That is not true. Though i agree that there have been more buffs than nerfs overall...the buffs made by bioware make u go "meh" -_- & the "nerfs" made by bioware make u go "holy ****" :blink:

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shooterking07 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Nerfed to oblivion. The nerfers have struck again.

Yep this weapon is now almost useless as the harpoon.
Shame looks like the only sniper I like is the Vailent.


i would use the valient if i can get it above level 1 and i can stop getting eagles for the past 3 operations

#116
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CLAYMORE IS NEXT

#117
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Djarknaein wrote...

Now they can buff tact cloak back.


I think that was more of a balance since Infiltrators were the jack-of-all-trades.

#118
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all i can say about the nerf is Meh i rarely used it prefer the reeger and valient..

#119
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Welcome to BIOWARE forums, ruining multiplayer, one weapon at a time.
THANK FOR, VISITING.

#120
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Partially justified. Having two Infiltrators with it on any team means the other two can't get any shots in, so I welcome the nerf entirely.
However, I believe it should have been Infiltrator-specific, or at least less severe for the other classes (possibly bar Soldier).

#121
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Don't care about the Krysae nerf. Haven't used it since the week it came out.

Djarknaein wrote...

Now they can buff tact cloak back.


Just the SR damage.

#122
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The Krysae is the Infiltrator of sniper rifling: AoE, stagger and multi-shot. Should it do them all poorly or favor one particular role?

Just bring back Explosive Ammo so I can finally use my Black Widow or Valiant.

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Pitznik wrote...

Omega2079 wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

The only thing they could do better is to remove it entirely from the game. It's an awful, badly designed weapon for people not willing to actually learn to play. I'm glad it got nerfed, it is well deserved. Hallelujah!


So it's about being spiteful to others, not balancing the game. Good to know.

No, it is not. Having a very powerful, very easy to use weapon is really bad for game balance. But I won't lie, I am satisfied with the nerf, -especially- that Krysae nerf threads weren't showing up anymore. Now Krysae fans have noone to blame.


Your earlier post makes it seem that way. Most of the weapons are easy to use. Performing well with them is another story, which typical crysae users have never been good at anyways.

#124
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NinthGeorgesw wrote...
I never used it either, so I'll just observe peoples reactions.


I agree.

The weekly balance changes should be renamed to "weekly kowtowing to whiners".

This change has p****d me off more than anything Bioware has done in the past. I'm so angry I think it's going to turn me into a complete jerk in matches.

#125
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I've barely been using it..so we shall see....