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#126
MinatheBrat

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I think making it an ultra-rare would have been a good move.
I don't see this gun being used much anymore, which is a shame. Variety is fun.

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I never found it to be more useful then my Widow/BW/Vailant to begin with, but I did use it on occasion. I didn't think it was OP since the first nerf though, so I was surprised to see it take another hit.

#128
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If I cared enough at this point I'd be disgusted. Though I do not use the weapon.

But the cynic in me knows that this community and it's nerfed ketchup firing guns deserve each other.

Upinya claims from a dev's mouth that BW DOES pay attention to the forums/the community. And most of the time if they call for a nerf it gets nerfed.

I guess nerfers still won't exist when the Phaeston ends up being the best weapon in the game.

Grow the f*ck up, open your eyes and realize what's going on right under your noses. Your so called community is hellbent on destroying itself. Like a former NBA star, bitter and angry that other people have a chance at success at HIS game. The world should bow to HIS whims.

So much potential is being squandered and wasted. This game could truly be something great. Ironic that it's very community will be it's inevitable downfall. Not the Bioware or EA. YOU.


Carlin said it best. Looks like I've got front row tickets to the freakshow.

#129
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Well now they done made it completely useless, thanks BW now we have an even slower shooting Falcon that barely does any more damage

#130
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Now that I think about it....it's been a good minute since I've seen anyone use this gun. Maybe sometime last month.......

#131
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In my opinion, this gun is absolutely worthless now. Not sure whether I was doing something wrong or what but I tried using it on my Infiltrator earlier in conjunction with my powers (ie Cloak, Energy Drain/Prox mine) and I just could not kill anything whatsoever. I guess part of the reason would be that my teammates were doing absolutely nothing as well but the enemies' shields were restoring faster than I could deal damage to them with this gun. To me it just seems way too slow now to be useful.

#132
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To heck with the nerfers.
I'm so tried of the "rebalancing" and nerfs. If they do it to the new characters im so done with MP. They've made the average weak and the strong average. Was the Krysae overpowered in the beginning? yes, but then just don't play with people who use it. I don't use it. I use the Black Widow and Valiant. In a few months you'll find me on the Halo 4 forums anyway, so tired of all the complaining on here these days.

I know I'm complaining too...but thats hardly as much as some :/

#133
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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's excessive, but a nerf makes some sense considering that it was arguably more powerful than the Ultra-Rare snipers. It does seem like too much all at once though.


Yeah, this nerf was heavy-handed. The Krysae was not more powerful than the ultra-rares; it was easier to use and more accessible. What do snipers really have left at the rare rarity or lower? There's the Viper and the Widow. That's all, because who's going to use the Mantis if the Widow's maxed? Yet another reason to switch to a shotgun Infiltrator.

Modifié par GeneralElectric, 24 juillet 2012 - 07:38 .


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oXTheReverendXo wrote...

OneTrueShot wrote...

Now there's NO good sniper rifles with any viability outside of silver. Nice.


I hate the Krysae with a passion because I use good sniper rifles that are viable on Gold/Platinum. It's like Shockwave: you line up that perfect shot only to have your target staggered out of view, but not necessarily dead.

The BW, Valiant, Indra, old-school Widow, and others have been used to great effect on Gold and Platinum, and I believe this won't change that. The Krysae is less a sniper rifle and more a rocket launcher. It was boring as all get out.

That said, I don't know that it needed nerfs across the board like that. Keeping the damage up and slowing the rate of fire might have been fine. Leaving the rate of fire and nerfing the damage little might have been fine as well. Regardless, I'm not a big fan of nerfing and I still chalk this one up in the win column.


This.  The Krysae wasn't being used as a sniper rifle, it was Pre-nerf Falcon 2.0, which also was hilariously OP.  This was a much needed change.

#135
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LOL
Nerfers take this game all seriously...like this "balance" discussion they get all quivery over is right up there with is there life after death and the meaning of life the universe and everything. The problem is...they seem to be at odds with people who just want to get big powerful guns and go blow **** up and have fun.

Of which group are there more of? That's the question that if I were BW I'd be trying to find out. I'm curious too actually...

Modifié par MinatheBrat, 24 juillet 2012 - 07:45 .


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Balance.. oh nerfers love that scapegoat word..
''It's not nerfing.. it's balancing the game..!''

Modifié par LennethValkyrie, 24 juillet 2012 - 07:47 .


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I could careless because I don't even use it. I only used it like once or twice and that was it. Gonna suck for those that used it a lot.

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jeez, nerfed, what next? Im annoyed my favourite weapon, MP is going downhill fast.

#139
LennethValkyrie

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The Krauser wrote...

I could careless because I don't even use it. I only used it like once or twice and that was it. Gonna suck for those that used it a lot.

I didn't use it that often.. but you know I liked the idea of being able to choose a different weapon whenever I felt like.. I don't want to be forced to use the same weapons all the time because the others plainly suck.. .-.
Alot of people seem to be missing the points of a videogame.. which is to have fun..

Modifié par LennethValkyrie, 24 juillet 2012 - 07:55 .


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FlamboyantRoy wrote...

If I cared enough at this point I'd be disgusted. Though I do not use the weapon.

But the cynic in me knows that this community and it's nerfed ketchup firing guns deserve each other.

Upinya claims from a dev's mouth that BW DOES pay attention to the forums/the community. And most of the time if they call for a nerf it gets nerfed.

I guess nerfers still won't exist when the Phaeston ends up being the best weapon in the game.

Grow the f*ck up, open your eyes and realize what's going on right under your noses. Your so called community is hellbent on destroying itself. Like a former NBA star, bitter and angry that other people have a chance at success at HIS game. The world should bow to HIS whims.

So much potential is being squandered and wasted. This game could truly be something great. Ironic that it's very community will be it's inevitable downfall. Not the Bioware or EA. YOU.


Carlin said it best. Looks like I've got front row tickets to the freakshow.

BioWare makes balance changes based on their data, internal playtesting and forums. If their data and internal playtesting don't confirm something is OP, it doesn't get change. Simple.

On the other hand, forums are full of people who play a LOT and who understand this game and its mechanics. If those people claim that something is OP, if that opinion finds a lot of support, if majority of solo runs/speedruns is made using thay gun/class/power then maybe, just maybe, the gun/class/power in question in fact is OP?

#141
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Well, so much for enjoying that weapon. It seemed like the only quality sniper rifle, so this sucks.  I'm not that great at pinpoint sniping, so the AOE on this weapon was great for me.

I usually don't criticize others, but congrats nerfers.  You whiners costed me some fun now.

Modifié par SomeKindaEnigma, 24 juillet 2012 - 07:57 .


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LennethValkyrie wrote...

I didn't use it that often.. but you know I liked the idea of being able to choose a different weapon whenever I felt like.. I don't want ot be forced to use the same weapons al the time because the others plainly suck.. .-.


This! I used the Krysae intermittently right after it came out, but there were frankly better options for my Infiltrator after its first nerf, though using it was still effective and fun. Now there's no reason to go back to it.

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Guess I'll be going back to the Valiant or the BW on my GI and SI now. That sucks, after the TC, Hunter Mode, and the previous nerf I was hoping that would be enough, considering I wasn't doing nearly as well as before. Now its just worthless, might as well just get rid of it all together.

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LennethValkyrie wrote...

Balance.. oh nerfers love that scapegoat word..
''It's not nerfing.. it's balancing the game..!''

There... balance. I wish you could see it like I do, Shepard. It's so... perfect.

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jamesaka11710 wrote...

The original nerf barely hurt it and the tactical cloak nerf basically made snipers pretty useless. Krysae is now not even worth bothering with, even non sniper classes cant use it now.


This. So much for the awesome exploding sniper. Great concept nerfed to oblivion. 

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Pitznik wrote...

LennethValkyrie wrote...

Balance.. oh nerfers love that scapegoat word..
''It's not nerfing.. it's balancing the game..!''

There... balance. I wish you could see it like I do, Shepard. It's so... perfect.


So much win Pitznik.

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Modifié par theillusiveman11, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:03 .


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Pitznik wrote...

LennethValkyrie wrote...

Balance.. oh nerfers love that scapegoat word..
''It's not nerfing.. it's balancing the game..!''

There... balance. I wish you could see it like I do, Shepard. It's so... perfect.


You have won 10 internets my friend.

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This will not deter me from using it... Business will continue as usual... Was stealing all the kills and owning the scoreboard back when I had Krysae I for weeks. A little recoil and slightly slower? psh. It will allow me a fraction of a second more time to decide what to Airburst next.

Also the RoF nerf is a good thing, it will allow better Stun-lock timing on humanoid enemies such as Phantoms

previously if you shot all three rounds in succession at a charging Phantom, only the first would stun her, because she would immune to stun and doing her recovery anim while the next two hit her.
Now the Third shot stuns her as soon as she emerges from her Stun recovery Anim ;)
Not that it matters anyways b/c the third shot blows her into Ravioli anyways... lol

Thx!!!!


Also BW...

Be Careful.
Playing nerfbat whack-a-mole with userbase trending weapons and classes will ultimately alienate an increasing portion of said userbase.

Modifié par SkreeMalicious, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:07 .


#149
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I've only seen a couple of people using a Krysae in the last month or so of public games. When it was first released, it seemed like there was one in every game. So I doubt it's been nerfed because too many people are using it too effectively. I guess it's because it's so powerful on Platinum in the right hands - pretty much a "carry the rest of the team" weapon - and Platinum needs its street cred for a while longer.

Meanwhile another week goes by without the other sniper rifles getting a look.

#150
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Oh no'es, a weapon that can handle phantoms without giving them a chance to cheap! NERF IT! QUICKLY, NERF IT!