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#151
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If the Krysae nerf will allow me to play my Infiltrator without getting kicked, fine.

It actually did feel overpowered in my opinion.

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nobody will use it now - like the kishok.

Rhayak wrote...

If the Krysae nerf will allow me to play my Infiltrator without getting kicked, fine.


very funny :D 

Modifié par NasChoka, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:50 .


#153
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I don't understand why a game can't just be a game. I've been coming on to the forums for a few years now and Im amazed on some of the people on here . I play games because the are fun. It's not a religion it's not anything more than just what it is... A disk or a downloaded file meant to entertain us. I enjoyed mp I'm not the greatest.. I've had people kick me off because I don't have a particular build or level or score. I just want to have fun. This weapon is one of my favorites. Not because it was this awesome killing machine... It was fun to use. I could keep up with some of u hard core players. But what this has become is a game that some take more seriously than they should. Its not real . It's a game. Period. Just have fun with it.

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Rhayak wrote...

If the Krysae nerf will allow me to play my Infiltrator without getting kicked, fine.

It actually did feel overpowered in my opinion.


This..although I never thought it felt overpowered. Although it will take a bit to get used too again. 

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Hackett out wrote...

Its a pathetic nerf for all the sad morons who spend more time on the forums crying over powered rather than playing the game.


Same. I haven't even seen many using it lately so why it now got nerfed is beyond me. Mainly it looks like someone in BW is mad Platinum got beat at comic con and is now "farmable" since I heard someone that posts here beat it at comic con with a GI weilding a Krysae, lol.

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I didn't use it much, but it was fine before this latest nerf. I hardly saw it anymore on anyone that wasn't a missile glitcher.

Now it's just another useless hunk of crap to sink credits into to go right next to my Incisor, Locust, Crusader, Geth Pulse Rifle, Eagle etc.

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It was a pointless nerf. The Krysae fad wore off long ago. Hardly anybody uses it now. I reserved it for certain characters that I play not as often. I guess I'll play them less now. Claymore and other weapons always were and will be the speed runners choice. Grenades spawn rape like Krysae could only dream about under heavy LSD usage. But ME3 grenades are already a joke compared to real grenades. Nerf the grenades and they become firecrackers.

Modifié par nicethugbert, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:30 .


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It is a rather big nerf and like all the extreme nerfs, I don't like it (Never used the gun but still...).

Modifié par robarcool, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:39 .


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Was anyone whining about how it should be nerfed again? Nope. The harder it is to get credits the more incentive it gives the players to buy packs with actual money. This is all it has ever been about, and all it will ever be, money.

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It was overpowered, IMO, but they really went over the top with this one. I would have supported a small damage decrease, but wow....

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It was a gun that didn't require you to actually hit anything and did strong damage.

The stagger and innate AoE still have a purpose, but it was overpowered because it didn't need aimed.

Meanwhile, the Javelin doesn't do the damage it should based on its status as a UR with a charge up due to shield gate.........I really think they need to buff that thing.

Modifié par Pedactor, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:50 .


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I'm so mad I may never play multiplayer again or buy Bioware and EA games!!!!!!

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OneTrueShot wrote...

RIP Krysae. You can now join the Falcon in the "Only somewhat useful" category.

Now there's NO good sniper rifles with any viability outside of silver. Nice.

"I'll be going now."


This.  The nerf was was waaaay overdone.
Krysae was my favorite gun on salarian engineer.  Rip.

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Freskione2 wrote...

Rhayak wrote...

If the Krysae nerf will allow me to play my Infiltrator without getting kicked, fine.

It actually did feel overpowered in my opinion.


This..although I never thought it felt overpowered. Although it will take a bit to get used too again. 


The cheaters ability to use it for the glitch probably made it OP.........would seem to fall into the line of logic

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oXTheReverendXo wrote...

OneTrueShot wrote...

Now there's NO good sniper rifles with any viability outside of silver. Nice.


I hate the Krysae with a passion because I use good sniper rifles that are viable on Gold/Platinum. It's like Shockwave: you line up that perfect shot only to have your target staggered out of view, but not necessarily dead.

The BW, Valiant, Indra, old-school Widow, and others have been used to great effect on Gold and Platinum, and I believe this won't change that. The Krysae is less a sniper rifle and more a rocket launcher. It was boring as all get out.

That said, I don't know that it needed nerfs across the board like that. Keeping the damage up and slowing the rate of fire might have been fine. Leaving the rate of fire and nerfing the damage little might have been fine as well. Regardless, I'm not a big fan of nerfing and I still chalk this one up in the win column.


I have to disagree on the orginal widow. If sheild gatting didn't exist, there would be alot more viable rifles for gold/platinum. Not a fan of the BW, bit too slow for my taste. 

Too coincidental we see this broad a nerf to the krysae and a fix to the missle glitch in one batch. That aside, the buffs we've been seeing have been to weapons no one uses and normally end being too insignificint to matter. Look at the eagle and vindicator. 

One post made perfect sence. Not about balance but about money.

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This should have happened BEFORE nerfing infiltrators.

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Bladedrummer

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BTW anyone saying there are no sniper rifles that are good on gold and platinum is just plain wrong. Sniper rifles are still good (Valiant, Black Widow, Widow and others too). The problem is that other weapons are more efficient, I give you that.

I used to love using the Valiant on gold and I did quite well with it. Now I just realize that I can do better and with less effort using other weapons (namely Claymore, Piranha, Hurricane, Harrier, GPS...).

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over the top but long overdue

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FlamboyantRoy wrote...

If I cared enough at this point I'd be disgusted. Though I do not use the weapon.

But the cynic in me knows that this community and it's nerfed ketchup firing guns deserve each other.

Upinya claims from a dev's mouth that BW DOES pay attention to the forums/the community. And most of the time if they call for a nerf it gets nerfed.

I guess nerfers still won't exist when the Phaeston ends up being the best weapon in the game.

Grow the f*ck up, open your eyes and realize what's going on right under your noses. Your so called community is hellbent on destroying itself. Like a former NBA star, bitter and angry that other people have a chance at success at HIS game. The world should bow to HIS whims.

So much potential is being squandered and wasted. This game could truly be something great. Ironic that it's very community will be it's inevitable downfall. Not the Bioware or EA. YOU.


Carlin said it best. Looks like I've got front row tickets to the freakshow.


Couldn't agree more. Before long, this game will be "balanced" into oblivion. I dont't care actually about the Krysae, which i didn't use anyway because it was more or less useless even before. But it's actually very sad, because I've played from day one, and it was actually funnier back then. Quite wondering how this will play out :)

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LadyNemsis21 wrote...

Played with it a few times didn't like it. Makes things too easy. I like the challenge that comes from using a real sniper rifle and not a mini missile launcher. I will stick with my Valiant and Black Widow.


That was my experience pre-nerf.  Too easy to dominate and destroy everything.  Got board and stopped using it.

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ka243 wrote...

OneTrueShot wrote...

RIP Krysae. You can now join the Falcon in the "Only somewhat useful" category.

Now there's NO good sniper rifles with any viability outside of silver. Nice.

"I'll be going now."


This.  The nerf was was waaaay overdone.
Krysae was my favorite gun on salarian engineer.  Rip.


I agree that the nerf was too much, but I think it will still be fine on the SE. I used it as a CC-tech buster than an actual kill weapon. 

#172
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I hate the gun. Used it about 3x, and havn't used it since. I wish they never would have introduced it. MOST (not all, of course) of the outcry about TC and Infiltrators in general didn't get so loud until that stupid gun was introduced.

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I don't understand the point of "balanced" weapons. If they're all ultimately the same, why have so freakin' MANY of them? Why not just have one of each, with mods? It's all just numbers in the end, the aesthetics of the weapons is the only real difference these days. I think Rare and Ultra Rare weapons should be an order of magnitude more powerful than Common and Uncommon weapons, but if they're all "balanced"—can I get rid of some of them? I hate wasting unlock cards on redundant weapons.

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Pitznik wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

If I cared enough at this point I'd be disgusted. Though I do not use the weapon.

But the cynic in me knows that this community and it's nerfed ketchup firing guns deserve each other.

Upinya claims from a dev's mouth that BW DOES pay attention to the forums/the community. And most of the time if they call for a nerf it gets nerfed.

I guess nerfers still won't exist when the Phaeston ends up being the best weapon in the game.

Grow the f*ck up, open your eyes and realize what's going on right under your noses. Your so called community is hellbent on destroying itself. Like a former NBA star, bitter and angry that other people have a chance at success at HIS game. The world should bow to HIS whims.

So much potential is being squandered and wasted. This game could truly be something great. Ironic that it's very community will be it's inevitable downfall. Not the Bioware or EA. YOU.


Carlin said it best. Looks like I've got front row tickets to the freakshow.

BioWare makes balance changes based on their data, internal playtesting and forums. If their data and internal playtesting don't confirm something is OP, it doesn't get change. Simple.

On the other hand, forums are full of people who play a LOT and who understand this game and its mechanics. If those people claim that something is OP, if that opinion finds a lot of support, if majority of solo runs/speedruns is made using thay gun/class/power then maybe, just maybe, the gun/class/power in question in fact is OP?


Yes because every single player is soloing platinum with the Krysae. EVERYONE. The mailman, the waiter at the Denny's you attend. That homeless man on Sundays. EVERYONE! 

So because great players can solo with something automatically means it's OP? Well then, I guess we're in for more Typhoon nerfs. 


Edit: The people on the forums are a small minority. Half the people who play the game don't even realize the BSN exists. Most people on the forums are usually above average skill at the MP, thus providing a skewed or flawed viewpoint that the majority of players are cruising around soloing platinum in 10minutes(no glitch) when it couldn't be farther from the truth. 

Modifié par FlamboyantRoy, 24 juillet 2012 - 10:42 .


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seeing as i only just got it im not to bothered was it good before getting nerfed?