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[3DandBeyond]

Maggot4ever wrote...

Explain to me how there would be a reunion. In two of the endings, you are space jelly, and in Destroy it shows you taking ONE breath, they left it ambiguous, they don't want you to know if you died or lived, they will not change that. You believe that your Shepard is alive, it does not mean that it is true. Then again, I don't think I could live falling back into orbit. And no I don't want to hear that we can fire up Project Lazarus, that was just an annoying addition to the second game.

Edit: Also, why should this one ending get a massive facelift? The reality is sometimes you don't get this amazing and great reuinion, and I don't even want to hear the whole, "Well this isn't real life, it doesn't have to be grim." You spared the galaxy of everyone dying. It isn't grim. It was a necessary death, you shouldn't need to see everyone holding hands skipping off into the sunset.

Consider that at least one BW employee before the EC was released said there would be a reunion.  She used twitter where all retconned ME content and plot holes are fixed.  Once it was released and there was no reunion, it was said one is implied and the clearly there would be a reunion.  It keeps changing.

They made destroy incomprehensible and not ambiguouse.  The kid's explanation for it alone should make you worry as to whether he is "sane" or not.

Again, you are interpreting reunion in a flawed way.  And I am so sick of hearing that just saving people that matter because they are organic based is saving the galaxy.  Some of the best people in the game were never actually born and some of us care about them too.  So no destroy is in no way some decent ending as is.  It is grim.  They all are.  And a reunion didn't have to mean some big drawn out happily ever after scene.  The galaxy is in a bad place, Shepard has given, sacrificed constantly.  Shepard matters.  The game has zero replayability value for 3 (4) grim endings with no certain semi-happy tidbit.  We created Shepard's face and should get to see that.

Again, who does it hurt if people say they would like to see a reunion or a shepard lives ending?  A lot of people go really crazy if someone says they want a bit happier ending.  I wonder why that is.

[wright1978]

I'd just have liked them to have put some effort into the high EMS destroy epilogue. Basically EC was supposed to add clarification and closure and yet for Shep lives scene there is neither, just another hint via squaddies not willing to put his/her name up yet. The shep lives clip is thrown out like a piece of trash at the end of the epilogue. I find it cheap and insulting that they would put so much time into clarifying and giving closure to Sheps fate in other endings but none whatsover in shep lives.

I'll take their meagre crumbs and imagine Shep being rescued and re-uniting with Miranda and the rest of his crew and organising the rebuilding project. Still i'll wish Bioware had have put a tiny bit of effort into providing more exposition.

[TheHoneyRuns]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Are you high? Toaster and flashlight head destruction isn't sad. It's not funny either but who cares about them ? Destroy is a paradise compare to Synthesis.

...kind of. That's pretty cruel, though, no? I mean, I joke about offing EDI, and I really do believe it's worth it for Shepster to stay alive. It is a paradise next to the creepy awfulness of synthesis. All of that I agree with.

But I cared very much for EDI. She was a great character and she brought out the best in Joker, who, despite my long-standing manly adoration for his voice actor, was kind of a serious, annoying tool in the first game. Joker/EDI were awesome, I loved having her on the crew and she had some of the coolest conversations in the game. Back with the original endings, Synthesis was the only viable option for my Shepard, but with the EC, the sacrifice of EDI for Shepard's life and happiness was a price worth paying, if a heavy one.

...I just wanted to say, EDI is awesome.

[HK-90210]

Ummmm.....I guess, tough? They aren't going to provide any more on the ending than they already have. Use your imagination. It's there. I know it is.

[clarkusdarkus]

no end boss, no real side missions, using your imagination to end your trilogy. ME3 couldnt have been more of a letdown but the ending fiasco took the brunt of it. Looking back it's no wonder iv'e only done 1 playthrough and that's something i never thought would happen leading upto release.

[The Twilight God]

nhsknudsen wrote...

A shown reunion won't cut it either, because then you will notice details you don't like etc.

Better stick to use your imagination.

Better idea... You don't get the DLC and stick to YOUR imagination.

[The Twilight God]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

no end boss, no real side missions, using your imagination to end your trilogy. ME3 couldnt have been more of a letdown but the ending fiasco took the brunt of it. Looking back it's no wonder iv'e only done 1 playthrough and that's something i never thought would happen leading upto release.

ME3's ending killed my will to play any games. I cancelled my SWTOR sub cause I just can't get into it or anything else anymore. At least DA2 didn't leave me feeling like crap afterwards. I should have seen it coming when stupid Diana Allers has a face model and they couldn't bother to model Tali after Liz Sroka... but a useless nobody not-Wmily-Wong that I never even allowed on my ship gets a custom face.... I should have know then and there that the people making ME3 simply did not care and wanted to actively hurt us. Sadists!!!.

Modifié par The Twilight God, 24 juillet 2012 - 10:17 .

[TheHoneyRuns]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

no end boss, no real side missions, using your imagination to end your trilogy. ME3 couldnt have been more of a letdown but the ending fiasco took the brunt of it. Looking back it's no wonder iv'e only done 1 playthrough and that's something i never thought would happen leading upto release.

Oh come on, it could've been so much worse!!! At least the mechanics and gameplay elements were completely intact, right?! I mean, it's not like there's almost zero geniune inventory. It's not as though the questlog is all jacked up to the point where you can't tell where you've been or where you have to go or which quest you're halfway in the middle of and which you haven't even started yet. And I for one was very please that every time I pressed the select button to holster my weapon so that I didn't walk or run around looking like a complete friggin' idiot who may or may not be turtling, I didn't simply autosave over and over and over again.

And excuse me, ClarkusDarkus, if that even is your real name, but there were plenty of real side missions. I can think of at least twenty off-hand. Very daring missions of space travel, load screens, planet scanning and playing tag with the ultimate evil in the universe that in no way lessened my undying fear of them due to the fact that they were completely useless at catching me, one tiny defenseless little ship.

So there.

Modifié par TheHoneyRuns, 24 juillet 2012 - 10:31 .

[clarkusdarkus]

The Twilight God wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

no end boss, no real side missions, using your imagination to end your trilogy. ME3 couldnt have been more of a letdown but the ending fiasco took the brunt of it. Looking back it's no wonder iv'e only done 1 playthrough and that's something i never thought would happen leading upto release.

ME3's ending killed my will to play any games. I cancelled my SWTOR sub cause I just can't get into it or anything else anymore. At least DA2 didn't leave me feeling like crap afterwards. I should have seen it coming when stupid Diana Allers has a face model and they couldn't bother to model Tali after Liz Sroka... but a useless nobody not-Wmily-Wong that I never even allowed on my ship gets a custom face.... I should have know then and there that the people making ME3 simply did not care and wanted to actively hurt us. Sadists!!!.

Thing is before any major release i stay away from spoilers, i dont watch vids or read up on stuff as i want total immersion, and none so more than my anticipation and excitement for ME3, not once in my lifetime of playing videogames have i felt so letdown or angry at what i played. I was dissapointed with the game overall let alone the ending......hence why only did 1 playthrough, which in itself speaks volumes of how i see ME3. We wasn't our shepard and it proved it as they didnt even let us import it!!!! 

[xxBabyMonkeyxx]

But just imagine the speculation that you can't do and the artistic integrity they can't keep if they ending the series well!! Imagine the horror!! Oh wait...

[The Twilight God]

clarkusdarkus wrote...
We wasn't our shepard and it proved it as they didnt even let us import it!!!! 

What do you mean?

[clarkusdarkus]

TheHoneyRuns wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

no end boss, no real side missions, using your imagination to end your trilogy. ME3 couldnt have been more of a letdown but the ending fiasco took the brunt of it. Looking back it's no wonder iv'e only done 1 playthrough and that's something i never thought would happen leading upto release.

Oh come on, it could've been so much worse!!! At least the mechanics and gameplay elements were completely intact, right?! I mean, it's not like there's almost zero geniune inventory. It's not as though the questlog is all jacked up to the point where you can't tell where you've been or where you have to go or which quest you're halfway in the middle of and which you haven't even started yet. And I for one was very please that every time I pressed the select button to holster my weapon so that I didn't walk or run around looking like a complete friggin' idiot who may or may not be turtling, I didn't simply autosave over and over and over again.

And excuse me, ClarkusDarkus, if that even is your real name, but there were plenty of real side missions. I can think of at least twenty off-hand. Very daring missions of space travel, load screens, planet scanning and playing tag with the ultimate evil in the universe that in no way lessened my undying fear of them do to the fact that the were completely useless at catching me, one tiny defenseless little ship.

So there.

Clarkusdarkus go's barkus is my real name honey.........

i agree though as it's not as if i didnt get to import my ME1 shepard, or bend my neck exorcist style speaking with bluebum liara.....

[clarkusdarkus]

The Twilight God wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...
We wasn't our shepard and it proved it as they didnt even let us import it!!!! 

What do you mean?

as in the import bug on release...

[HK-90210]

TheHoneyRuns wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

no end boss, no real side missions, using your imagination to end your trilogy. ME3 couldnt have been more of a letdown but the ending fiasco took the brunt of it. Looking back it's no wonder iv'e only done 1 playthrough and that's something i never thought would happen leading upto release.

Oh come on, it could've been so much worse!!! At least the mechanics and gameplay elements were completely intact, right?! I mean, it's not like there's almost zero geniune inventory. It's not as though the questlog is all jacked up to the point where you can't tell where you've been or where you have to go or which quest you're halfway in the middle of and which you haven't even started yet. And I for one was very please that every time I pressed the select button to holster my weapon so that I didn't walk or run around looking like a complete friggin' idiot who may or may not be turtling, I didn't simply autosave over and over and over again.

And excuse me, ClarkusDarkus, if that even is your real name, but there were plenty of real side missions. I can think of at least twenty off-hand. Very daring missions of space travel, load screens, planet scanning and playing tag with the ultimate evil in the universe that in no way lessened my undying fear of them do to the fact that the were completely useless at catching me, one tiny defenseless little ship.

So there.

ERROR....ERROR...Sarcasm overload.....*Shepard picks destroy* BOOOOM!

[The Twilight God]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...
We wasn't our shepard and it proved it as they didnt even let us import it!!!! 

What do you mean?

as in the import bug on release...

Ah, i never played it til the day after EC was released as I was playing SWTOR and ME1-2 between chapters. Now I wish I had just gone and finished up all of SWTOR first. Not saying the EC is great, but if I had to experience the original ending... I don't even want to think about it. I'd probably be in a psyche ward right now.

Modifié par The Twilight God, 24 juillet 2012 - 10:35 .

[RenegonSQ]

TheHoneyRuns wrote...

RenegonSQ wrote...

I have explained my "trolling" if that's what you wanna classify it as. Read up^

Yes, the title in the thread is an emotion, not a question. The thread itself, however, has been a debate over the validity/possibility, what have you, over 'more' ending DLC, or even if that would matter because of the shi**iness that is the Catalyst Space Turd. There is plenty of debate, most of it well-reasoned and the vast majority of it being verbose in nature.

Regardless of whether or not you intended to troll, clicking on the link to a thread you so clearly, vehemently despise, writing a single insulting sentence without reading anything anyone had written and then waiting for the responses to pour in, in order to respond with more vile dislike, is the very essence of trollness. ...trollhood. Trollosity. Whatever. Trolling. You might as well have a signature that reads, "U Mad Bro?"

This whole thread is a giant complaint. I've been reading, and majority of this thread consists of nagging complaints, not debate. Call it what you want. If i'm trolling, then this is a gigantic troll thread.

[TheHoneyRuns]

The Twilight God wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...
We wasn't our shepard and it proved it as they didnt even let us import it!!!! 

What do you mean?

as in the import bug on release...

Ah, i never played it til the day after EC was released as I was playing SWTOR and ME1-2 between chapters. Now I wish I had just gone and finished up all of SWTOR first.

The import bug still isn't fixed. Many people who import a face created in the first part can't correctly import the face into the third. For my second run-through after  EC was released, I had to recreate the face exactly in ME2 using the import/adjust features. Took awhile, but ultimately I was glad I did it as I finally got to use my genuine Shepard to experience the greatest ending of all time, WOOO! Space Magic.

...I have shamed myself.

[TheHoneyRuns]

RenegonSQ wrote...

TheHoneyRuns wrote...

RenegonSQ wrote...

I have explained my "trolling" if that's what you wanna classify it as. Read up^

Yes, the title in the thread is an emotion, not a question. The thread itself, however, has been a debate over the validity/possibility, what have you, over 'more' ending DLC, or even if that would matter because of the shi**iness that is the Catalyst Space Turd. There is plenty of debate, most of it well-reasoned and the vast majority of it being verbose in nature.

Regardless of whether or not you intended to troll, clicking on the link to a thread you so clearly, vehemently despise, writing a single insulting sentence without reading anything anyone had written and then waiting for the responses to pour in, in order to respond with more vile dislike, is the very essence of trollness. ...trollhood. Trollosity. Whatever. Trolling. You might as well have a signature that reads, "U Mad Bro?"

This whole thread is a giant complaint. I've been reading, and majority of this thread consists of nagging complaints, not debate. Call it what you want. If i'm trolling, then this is a gigantic troll thread.

lol, Ah yes, "Debate," the ancient tactic of whining until you get your way and still maintaining some semblance of self-respect. We have dismissed that claim.

Very well, you have been gone for awhile so I'll take your word on it. To each his own, I guess. I thought most of the arguments against the EC endings were well thought-out and reasoned, myself.

[Ice Eyes]

 I too was upset about George R.R. Martin's choices in what happened in the narrati----wait.... 

[The Twilight God]

TheHoneyRuns wrote...

The import bug still isn't fixed. Many people who import a face created in the first part can't correctly import the face into the third. For my second run-through after  EC was released, I had to recreate the face exactly in ME2 using the import/adjust features. Took awhile, but ultimately I was glad I did it as I finally got to use my genuine Shepard to experience the greatest ending of all time, WOOO! Space Magic.

...I have shamed myself.

Importd from 1 to 2 to 3. The hair, beard and eye colors were different, but I could change them starting from the imported face without having to start from stratch. Maybe certain faces are effected more than others. But since all my sheps have the same face, but different hair, eyes and scares it wouldn't be that much of a problem for me as the face itself imported correctly.

Control and synthesis, as presented, are indoctrinated choices. You have no reason to trust this guy and his new options are Saren (synthesis) and TIM(control, which they reapers just got finished trying to convince me of literally minutes beforehand via TIM). And Shepard just accepts this without argument. Just a complete 180. The whole focus goes from stopping the reapers to freaking helping them solve their stupid problem that nevr could exist. F his ****g mission. I'm not here to help him do his freakin job. I'm here to kil his ass. Really bad writting. And this was my first time playing never having heard of indoctrination theory. I actually chose Refusal the first time thinking another option would occur because everything felt so fishy. I thought Shepard was going to comment on the absurdity of it all and I would have another way. Nope. didn't even bother to give me a "There are no more options. Are you sure?" Nope, just instant fail. Heard Liara's voice and immediately exited game. Then I reloaded and picked Destroy.

[comrade gando]

Deal with it. Man Im so badass and edgy.

[Iakus]

Maggot4ever wrote...

Explain to me how there would be a reunion. In two of the endings, you are space jelly, and in Destroy it shows you taking ONE breath, they left it ambiguous, they don't want you to know if you died or lived, they will not change that. You believe that your Shepard is alive, it does not mean that it is true. Then again, I don't think I could live falling back into orbit. And no I don't want to hear that we can fire up Project Lazarus, that was just an annoying addition to the second game.

Edit: Also, why should this one ending get a massive facelift? The reality is sometimes you don't get this amazing and great reuinion, and I don't even want to hear the whole, "Well this isn't real life, it doesn't have to be grim." You spared the galaxy of everyone dying. It isn't grim. It was a necessary death, you shouldn't need to see everyone holding hands skipping off into the sunset.

Then maybe Bioware should have provided more than one ending where Shepard can live, not be so deliberately vague about it, and thus not alienate so many players?  Bioware is seriously hemorraging goodwill.

::sigh:: Why does it always come down to "You just want rainbows and kittens?"  

Nothing's being asked for that wasn't provided in the first two games' endings.

Modifié par iakus, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:06 .

[ld1449]

iakus wrote...

Maggot4ever wrote...

Explain to me how there would be a reunion. In two of the endings, you are space jelly, and in Destroy it shows you taking ONE breath, they left it ambiguous, they don't want you to know if you died or lived, they will not change that. You believe that your Shepard is alive, it does not mean that it is true. Then again, I don't think I could live falling back into orbit. And no I don't want to hear that we can fire up Project Lazarus, that was just an annoying addition to the second game.

Edit: Also, why should this one ending get a massive facelift? The reality is sometimes you don't get this amazing and great reuinion, and I don't even want to hear the whole, "Well this isn't real life, it doesn't have to be grim." You spared the galaxy of everyone dying. It isn't grim. It was a necessary death, you shouldn't need to see everyone holding hands skipping off into the sunset.

Then maybe Bioware should have provided more than one ending where Shepard can live, not be so deliberately vague about it, and thus not alienate so many players?  Bioware is seriously hemorraging goodwill.

::sigh:: Why does it always come down to "You just want rainbows and kittens?"  

Nothing's being asked for that wasn't provided in the first two games' endings.

Nothing is being asked that wasn't PROMISED in the build up of this game either.<_<

[jetfire118]

First fans argue they wanted their ending...It was their story....Now they want BIO to tell their story for them....i dont get it anymore...>_<