Actually I'd have to say BW and Javelin are now actually worth it on platinum, especially against Reapers since they pretty much just throw Ravagers, Brutes, and Banshees. The point of a co-op game is...cooperation. The Infiltrator fills the role of boss killer. Find a team that needs one or build one that utilizes specialized roles, e.g. boss-killer, crowd control, medic/objectives, misc.
Good work BW, rename Infiltrators to Medics and be done with it!
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#27
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:31
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NERF ALL THINGS
BUFF ALL THINGS
BUFF ALL THINGS
#28
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:32
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All of the sniper rifles are "viable" on Platinum, Lrn2play noob.
#29
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:33
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Widow, Valiant, Javelin, and Mantis are still viable options if you spec for damage. I don't know what you are talking about
#30
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:34
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OP should apologize for using an Infiltrator with a Krysae and then complaining about it.Wild Wolfie wrote...
The Krysae was the only viable sniper rifle when playing Platinum after the previous infiltrator nerf. Now yet again the krysae has been nerfed.
#31
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:34
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Biotic_Warlock wrote...
If Krysae is the only sniper you use right then you are doing it wrong.
Definitely this ^^^^^^^^^
#32
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:35
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I'd love to see an across the board Sniper Rifle buff, but there are plenty of ways to make your Infiltrator a killing machine without an SR or even a shotgun. My Harrier QMI kills ALL the things. I'm also very curious to see how my good old Valiant SI, who admittedly hasn't been getting much use with the new classes and all, does on Platinum. Guess I'll have to try it...for science...
#33
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:35
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elPrimoFilipino wrote...
So much melodrama on these forums.
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Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:36
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Just cause they can hear you doesn't mean they're oging to shoot right at you. I don't know any other class that can go straight into a field of guys and come out unscathed 80% of the time.Dachau Joseph wrote...
Mgamerz wrote...
Awww, can't play a class that enemies can't see?
I guess you'd be right if enemies couldn't see you while cloaked.
Bioware confirmed it.
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Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:37
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they buffed javelin to a thousand damage on geth inf it's a dead eyed killer.
#36
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:39
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GodlessPaladin wrote...
I agree that sniper rifles need a buff across the board, at least. However, to say that Infiltrators are just medics is silly... Infiltrators are still killing machines.
This. Sniper infiltrators only took around a 14% damage loss when they were nerfed. Not too bad. It's still my go to class, though love for the Shadow is growing in me, too...
#37
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:40
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I see the only change is an attempt to fix rocket glitch and the changes to the krysae. I never liked that gun myself, but I'm sure its not all as bad as it seems.
I seem to do ok without using a krysae.
I seem to do ok without using a krysae.
#38
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:42
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As a person switching between all the different classes:
Infiltrators are fine now. They used to be OP, capable of more than all the other classes. With the nerfs, they've become what they should be: Just another class contributing to a team in their specific, balanced way.
They can heal, sure, but if I keep up a steady firing rythm with my infiltrators, I can also do just as much damage as the other classes.
I'm happy.
Infiltrators are fine now. They used to be OP, capable of more than all the other classes. With the nerfs, they've become what they should be: Just another class contributing to a team in their specific, balanced way.
They can heal, sure, but if I keep up a steady firing rythm with my infiltrators, I can also do just as much damage as the other classes.
I'm happy.
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Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:42
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You're being just a little bit hyperbolic. Sniper rifles could use a buff across the board to make them more accessible to non-Infiltrators, and there are some that could use individual buffs to bring them in line with the rest, but the best sniper rifles before the Krysae remain effective weapons today if you insist on sniping.
By the way, the Infiltrator is for infiltrating. Some people clearly think they should be used for nothing but sniping, but I say to them: stop living in Mass Effect 1. Seeing as several non-sniper weapons are so effective for the Infiltrator, I'd say Bioware agrees.
By the way, the Infiltrator is for infiltrating. Some people clearly think they should be used for nothing but sniping, but I say to them: stop living in Mass Effect 1. Seeing as several non-sniper weapons are so effective for the Infiltrator, I'd say Bioware agrees.
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Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:42
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TAlTAl wrote...
they buffed javelin to a thousand damage on geth inf it's a dead eyed killer.
Nerfed, you mean because that "buff" came with a ridiculous weight penalty and the spare ammo is a huge issue for anyone who doesn't have it at a high level. The extra damage doesn't help when enemy shields recharge before you can reload and line up a second shot,
You would be better off using a SI with a Widow, or Black Widow.
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Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:45
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JackGradus wrote...
By the way, the Infiltrator is for infiltrating. Some people clearly think they should be used for nothing but sniping, but I say to them: stop living in Mass Effect 1.
Actually the most effective infiltrator in Mass Effect was the pistol infiltrator...
#42
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:45
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I've been using the Wraith with the Geth Inf. and N7 Shadow
Granted I have the Wraith at X and don't play Infiltrators in Gold but still
Granted I have the Wraith at X and don't play Infiltrators in Gold but still
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Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:47
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Ashen Earth wrote...
TAlTAl wrote...
they buffed javelin to a thousand damage on geth inf it's a dead eyed killer.
Nerfed, you mean because that "buff" came with a ridiculous weight penalty and the spare ammo is a huge issue for anyone who doesn't have it at a high level. The extra damage doesn't help when enemy shields recharge before you can reload and line up a second shot,
You would be better off using a SI with a Widow, or Black Widow.
GI is really good with the Javelin I use EB and Spare AMMO and it works really well
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Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:47
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It's happened to me and a lot of others plenty of times.Mgamerz wrote...
Just cause they can hear you doesn't mean they're oging to shoot right at you. I don't know any other class that can go straight into a field of guys and come out unscathed 80% of the time.
Cloak while hidden
Enter a new area of the map
Enemies immediately turn and shoot at you with 100% accuracy
Don't even bring up when you're the last player left, as BW flat out confirmed that they will peek past your cloak very frequently to see where you are.
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Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:48
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I would love to play with a 4 person sniping crew on platinum and see how we stack up. quarian or salarian inf. with widows and javelins. Phantoms would be the only problem. Otherwise it would be sick if all 4 know what theyre doing.
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Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:51
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Valiant is still relevant. Black widow trails slightly behind. Harrier is a beast, so yes there are still options available to deal massive amounts of damage.
#47
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:51
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As a sniper I am personally not happy with what I perceive as being forced into a Covert Ops build.
Honestly, why would you make the role so ineffective with mechanics like Shield Gate and then give us guns with an extremely high damage rate that suddenly become useless because they can't do their job of killing things in one shot? If we're going to do that then all Sniper rifles need a firing clip of at least two rounds. Why would you only give us one round if we're not going to kill with it?
Thanks to the way shotguns work against Shield Gate, the reduction to the base stats as well as a reduction to a skill that made the role work better, I feel far more pressured into being a CQB Shotty Infiltrator then a long distance Sniper which is what the class was based around in the first two games.
Hell now I've got forumites telling me to stop being a Sniper since they're so useless now. And don't you lie to me, I asked and that was the answer I got.
I'm still limping along and managing to retain some dignity but the attitude I'm seeing is clearly anti-sniper here. I'm baffled as to why that is honestly. Are people so damn hurt by one weapon that "doesn't take any skill to use" that they feel the need bash the entire Sniper base in retaliation?
Seriously?
Honestly, why would you make the role so ineffective with mechanics like Shield Gate and then give us guns with an extremely high damage rate that suddenly become useless because they can't do their job of killing things in one shot? If we're going to do that then all Sniper rifles need a firing clip of at least two rounds. Why would you only give us one round if we're not going to kill with it?
Thanks to the way shotguns work against Shield Gate, the reduction to the base stats as well as a reduction to a skill that made the role work better, I feel far more pressured into being a CQB Shotty Infiltrator then a long distance Sniper which is what the class was based around in the first two games.
Hell now I've got forumites telling me to stop being a Sniper since they're so useless now. And don't you lie to me, I asked and that was the answer I got.
I'm still limping along and managing to retain some dignity but the attitude I'm seeing is clearly anti-sniper here. I'm baffled as to why that is honestly. Are people so damn hurt by one weapon that "doesn't take any skill to use" that they feel the need bash the entire Sniper base in retaliation?
Seriously?
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Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:53
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UEG Donkey wrote...
Ashen Earth wrote...
TAlTAl wrote...
they buffed javelin to a thousand damage on geth inf it's a dead eyed killer.
Nerfed, you mean because that "buff" came with a ridiculous weight penalty and the spare ammo is a huge issue for anyone who doesn't have it at a high level. The extra damage doesn't help when enemy shields recharge before you can reload and line up a second shot,
You would be better off using a SI with a Widow, or Black Widow.
GI is really good with the Javelin I use EB and Spare AMMO and it works really well
GI with a Javelin X is inferior to a SI with a Widow, because the SI can dispatch all enemy types effortlessly (even the shielded ones) but a Phantom will ruin your day as a GI with a Javelin.
Also, should you get overrun and die while cloaked you'll have a 10+ second cooldown on TC when you medigel surrounded by enemies to think about whether or not that extra damage to unshielded enemies is worth it. I use a Javelin GI because I like the Javelin and the GI is my favorite class, but it's not efficient.
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Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:55
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My QI with a Widow X is one of the most fun to play classes IMO. I almost always play Silver, though.
#50
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:58
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....or you could just use a shotgun?
Uh, no, some of us hate shotguns and unless they change TC6b from Sniper Damage to all weapons or Sniper & Shotgun it's a fruitless sacrifice of duration. Which means, as the OP mentioned, we'll become medics or objective chasers.
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... or don't play Platinum?
Or how about YOU stop playing altogether? You give us a dumb response, we'll give you dumb feedback.
