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[Ashen One]

budzai wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

budzai wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

All of the sniper rifles are "viable" on Platinum, Lrn2play noob.

if you think sniper infiltrators are as good as shotgun infiltrators then you should learn to play you pissed off little ******...

Nice strawman.

I never said they were as good. I said sniper rifles are viable on Platinum. the fact that Platinum has been beaten by sniper Infiltrators supports my claim. Don't misconstrue my posts to support your own butthurt QQ.

oh god you are really stupid... there is no class whos optimal choice would be a sniper rifle thats the problem...

The fact that I am not the one constructing weak strawman arguments to support my point suggests that I am not the stupid one here.

I am well aware of the problem, but to say that sniper rifles are not "viable" when I can carry a bad Platinum PUG with a BW Salarian Infiltrator is utterly moronic. I see you're saying it's not "optimal" instead of falling on a fallacious argument, and confusing "optimal" with "viable" this time though, so maybe you actually learned something.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 24 juillet 2012 - 10:21 .

[kingvenom41392]

ok infiltrators are the only class to use snipers properly krysae isnt a sniper its a joke used to back up enemiesand if the primary weapon of choice is shotguns then yes bioware screwed up i love snipers and hate being forced to infiltrate to use my favorite weapons only other class that works is human soldier with adrenaline rush

[Inject-]

The Geth do not intentionally infiltrate.

[holdenagincourt]

This thread is delicious.

Let me just grab my bib and pour myself a bottle of wine before I dig in.

[budzai]

Ashen Earth wrote...

budzai wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

budzai wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

All of the sniper rifles are "viable" on Platinum, Lrn2play noob.

if you think sniper infiltrators are as good as shotgun infiltrators then you should learn to play you pissed off little ******...

Nice strawman.

I never said they were as good. I said sniper rifles are viable on Platinum. the fact that Platinum has been beaten by sniper Infiltrators supports my claim. Don't misconstrue my posts to support your own butthurt QQ.

oh god you are really stupid... there is no class whos optimal choice would be a sniper rifle thats the problem...

The fact that I am not the one constructing weak strawman arguments to support my point suggests that I am not the stupid one here.

I am well aware of the problem, but to say that sniper rifles are not "viable" when I can carry a bad Platinum PUG with a BW Salarian Infiltrator is utterly moronic. I see you're saying it's not "optimal" instead of falling on a fallacious argument, and confusing "optimal" with "viable" this time though, so maybe you actually learned something.

There is no point building you infiltrator for sniper use

it is in the OP
but you are too stupid and arrogant so I don't argue more with you

[LuckyBullet95]

Inject- wrote...

The Geth do not intentionally infiltrate.

Nor do they really have much use for medics... how exactly does a bandaid help a robot?

[ParadoxFaet]

phantom121294 wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

The Krysae is still useful, it just isn't the SR version of the pre-nerf Falcon. The nerf makes perfect sense.

Shure if it makes perfect sense if your sense was that you wanted it unusable.

QQ more, please. Not overpowered =/= unusable. 

[Ashen One]

budzai wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

budzai wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

budzai wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

All of the sniper rifles are "viable" on Platinum, Lrn2play noob.

if you think sniper infiltrators are as good as shotgun infiltrators then you should learn to play you pissed off little ******...

Nice strawman.

I never said they were as good. I said sniper rifles are viable on Platinum. the fact that Platinum has been beaten by sniper Infiltrators supports my claim. Don't misconstrue my posts to support your own butthurt QQ.

oh god you are really stupid... there is no class whos optimal choice would be a sniper rifle thats the problem...

The fact that I am not the one constructing weak strawman arguments to support my point suggests that I am not the stupid one here.

I am well aware of the problem, but to say that sniper rifles are not "viable" when I can carry a bad Platinum PUG with a BW Salarian Infiltrator is utterly moronic. I see you're saying it's not "optimal" instead of falling on a fallacious argument, and confusing "optimal" with "viable" this time though, so maybe you actually learned something.

There is no point building you infiltrator for sniper use

it is in the OP

My initial post was in response to the OP's stupid claim that the Krysae was the only Platinum viable sniper rifle, here have a look.

Wild Wolfie wrote...

There is something seriously wrong
when all the Infiltrators are now turning to shotguns rather than sniper
rifles. The Krysae was the only viable sniper rifle when playing
Platinum after the previous infiltrator nerf.

I guess you missed that part, but as you've made it abundantly clear reading comprehension is not your strongsuit so I can overlook that.

I never said sniper Infiltrators are better than shotgun Infiltrators, I simply stated that sniper Infiltrators are Platinum "viable" because Platinum can be beaten with a sniper Infiltrator. It's not optimal, as opposed to a shotgun infiltrator, but it is "viable".

budzai wrote...
but you are too stupid and arrogant so I don't argue more with you

Pot, kettle

[ChickenDownUnder]

Wait, wait, wait. I thought a SI with a W or a GI with a BW were good choices for Gold and Platinum.

[Asebstos]

Reducing the crazy zoom on most SR scopes would probably go a long way, also, get rid of the freaking zoom auto-aim. The combination is annoying as hell.

Modifié par Asebstos, 25 juillet 2012 - 03:15 .

[Taritu]

Salarian infiltrator w/Widow is still plenty powerful. I do agree that on other infiltrators (I haven't played the GI lately) sniping does feel weak.

[Sarah Knight]

i read enough to post what i think of this thread so here it is.

Krysae sniper rifle "worst weapon ever and glitched" reason why i say this is because it says that it works good on armor but does it pierce gaurdian shields? no it doesn't unlike the Black Widow and the Widow you get those guns to lvl 7+ with Tac cloak you will be causing allot of Destruction especially if you add a snipe rifle amp and the snipe rifle gear amp with + spec ammo if you wished.

the Sniper class can and will destroy enemies even on gold or platinum hell i went with the good old school class "QFI" with a lvl 3 black widow one run then my lvl X widow both times i destroyed Countless enemies and get this i was on top of the leaderboards during that game with my friends i never use shot guns on the infiltrator classes.

but my point is Sure they Get nerfed to the point where it seems they don't do damage. but in hindsight they do damage no matter what weapon you use with it Weather its SMG Shotguns Assault rifles snipers pistols W/e you do damage regardless of them hell i can't wait to do a platinum run with a particle rifle lvl 2 on my destroyer soon the destruction i will do when i get it set up just right .

but my opinion of this thread is that "krysae" is not the only Sniper rifle you can use .because you have these weapons to.

black widow
widow
Valiant
Raptor
Viper mantis
incisor
Javelin
indra
harpoon
and the krysae which this thread is solely complaining about with the infiltrator class.
i personally like the nerf on the Krysae the gun is soo underpowered and glitchy that i rather use my other snipers that i personally like which are as follows.

Indra
Black Widow
Widow
Valiant

aside from those 4 the rest to me are just garbage but from time to time i use them for laughs or to show my friends up in game with a crappy SR.

also Every one is entitled to their opinions which is why i'm not gonna solely attack any one but my other point is sure you see people running Shotguns on the infiltrators but you still do damage with any weapon you put on it.

[Soggy-Snake-]

Valiant says hi.

[Sarah Knight]

Taritu wrote...

Salarian infiltrator w/Widow is still plenty powerful. I do agree that on other infiltrators (I haven't played the GI lately) sniping does feel weak.

True i agree with you on that  because i'm use to the bullet  Drop on weapons to the point  ME3 is like oh  now the weapons just fire straight no matter the distance heh but its okay  i personally like Running the   Particle Rifle with a black widow on my shadow for laughs   its fun to be honest  altho i  don't need  the "same set up" tho because the particle rifle   you can set up for AP   which does a crap load of damage with the Destroyer  Two full charges   with that and the atlas  primes   and banshees are toast  ofc you have to set it for Weapon damage . but i like it that way even with the Multi missile  not as damaging as the other perk but still fun.

[Imp of the Perverse]

Anyone else think a shotgun is a better fit for a class called "infiltrator" anyway? If you infiltrate the enemy you're going to be at close range, not on the other side of the map with a sniper rifle.

[Sarah Knight]

Soggy-Snake- wrote...

Valiant says hi.

heh  the valiant.
hell if i could trade my upgraded guns just to upgrade my valiant  i would because i personally don't like the Eagle and crusader . >_<  Hurricane and Valiant = my combo when i'm running it.

but the new mods for Smg are awesome  my hurricane doesn't have as much  kick anymore with my   Stabiliyy amp lvl 3  and pierces guardian shields like swiss cheese with the lvl 4   velocity barrel for the smg heh .

hoping the snipers get some new ones  two since i've noticed they have not gotten a single one same said about shot guns to  aside from "Gear" upgrades   or new weapons  >_<.

kinda wished that they added   like a new sniper rifle with the  dlc maybe an  Smg   to. hell look at the smg's  their less compared to the other weapons...
12 ars 11 snipers 11 shottys  9 pistols  and only 6 smgs.   altho  i only have 11 ars  due to me not getting my bloody typhoon lawl...

[RxP4IN]

Are bad infiltrators still crying?

Do the engineer challenge and then tell me this thread isn't ridiculous. Play any non-DLC engineers for a week, JUST ONE WEEK. Then go back to infiltrators. Result?...instant easy mode.

Modifié par RxP4IN, 25 juillet 2012 - 07:04 .

[Sarah Knight]

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Anyone else think a shotgun is a better fit for a class called "infiltrator" anyway? If you infiltrate the enemy you're going to be at close range, not on the other side of the map with a sniper rifle.

Answer me this Do you see  or know any one that Serves in the military  currently or use to be that  Used  a shotgun when they wer only Sniping witless idiots through the scope?

Standard equipment  for snipers are as follows.

one Sniper rifle
one radio
Light Armor  specifically  designed for high  bullet impact.
2 grendaes  and flash bangs  claymores /land mines if need be including laser trips.

basically rule of Snipers Travel Light  Stay fast on your feet.

i know this because i have served in the military i am currently serving right now except i am on shore leave i don't go back till this november i'm going to be missing my  kids first christmas  which really bites for me.

infiltrators normally don't  Carry anything other than a sniper and pistol  armor and a few other things including spare ammo for both pistol and rifle .

i would know because i am the best damn  marksmen that my country  has known thus far   point is   this just a game   you can use W/e weapon you wish but in the real life no sniper would carry  no more than 2 weapons   ammo   and grenades  unless they have back up   or a spotter.

ah yes   my load out  irl   is as follows. "irl = in real life"

1:  50 cal Sniper rifle
1: Desert Eagle
2 Flash bangs
2 frag grenades
2 claymores
2 laser trips and motion detectors
1 night vision ballistic goggles with thermal  vision.
light armor  with no sleeves "yes i am that insane to not protect my  arms they are bionic any way bullets only scratch it.  Cutting edge fyi.
20 clips each for 50 cal and the desert eagle.

no   AR  no
Shotgun  "depending the mission i get assigned to  most of it is Sniping duty that i get asigned to any way.
wanted to post this so you know the standard load outs of most recon units in the field. "minus my arms ofc" those wer different issue in general  i had to prove to them that i can still fight  hell i did   but thank god i don't serve  in america because they be like "no human arms  no active duty" my home land   isn't as retarded and racist they are  "no offense to any one intended" just tired of  what america is like.

"tho i know their are others that aren't racist so i take back  my   well saying any way  just the arms forces fault for that lame law/rule.

Modifié par Sarah Knight, 25 juillet 2012 - 07:29 .

[Sarah Knight]

RxP4IN wrote...

Are bad infiltrators still crying?

Do the engineer challenge and then tell me this thread isn't ridiculous. Play any non-DLC engineers for a week, JUST ONE WEEK. Then go back to infiltrators. Result?...instant easy mode.

Yes they are  im actually the one of the only ones who has balls to know the dif between the class  or a crappy weapon   in general  but i agree with your posting one hundred percent

[Imp of the Perverse]

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Anyone else think a shotgun is a better fit for a class called "infiltrator" anyway? If you infiltrate the enemy you're going to be at close range, not on the other side of the map with a sniper rifle.

Answer me this Do you see  or know any one that Serves in the military  currently or use to be that  Used  a shotgun when they wer only Sniping witless idiots through the scope?

Standard equipment  for snipers are as follows.

one Sniper rifle
one radio
Light Armor  specifically  designed for high  bullet impact.
2 grendaes  and flash bangs  claymores /land mines if need be including laser trips.

basically rule of Snipers Travel Light  Stay fast on your feet.

i know this because i have served in the military i am currently serving right now except i am on shore leave i don't go back till this november i'm going to be missing my  kids first christmas  which really bites for me.

infiltrators normally don't  Carry anything other than a sniper and pistol  armor and a few other things including spare ammo for both pistol and rifle .

i would know because i am the best damn  marksmen that my country  has known thus far   point is   this just a game   you can use W/e weapon you wish but in the real life no sniper would carry  no more than 2 weapons   ammo   and grenades  unless they have back up   or a spotter.

It sounds like sniper infiltrators in ME operate in a very different way from military infiltrators. Rather than using stealth to get within sniper range (on a much larger map) they're using it to escape to a safer range for sniping. The shotgun infiltrator playstyle, using stealth to get within weapons range of your target, is closer to the military infiltrator.

[kil_edward93]

phantom121294 wrote...

Sovereign24 wrote...

....or you could just use a shotgun?

Because that was always the point of the class.

I always used an SMG...

[Sarah Knight]

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Anyone else think a shotgun is a better fit for a class called "infiltrator" anyway? If you infiltrate the enemy you're going to be at close range, not on the other side of the map with a sniper rifle.

Answer me this Do you see  or know any one that Serves in the military  currently or use to be that  Used  a shotgun when they wer only Sniping witless idiots through the scope?

Standard equipment  for snipers are as follows.

one Sniper rifle
one radio
Light Armor  specifically  designed for high  bullet impact.
2 grendaes  and flash bangs  claymores /land mines if need be including laser trips.

basically rule of Snipers Travel Light  Stay fast on your feet.

i know this because i have served in the military i am currently serving right now except i am on shore leave i don't go back till this november i'm going to be missing my  kids first christmas  which really bites for me.

infiltrators normally don't  Carry anything other than a sniper and pistol  armor and a few other things including spare ammo for both pistol and rifle .

i would know because i am the best damn  marksmen that my country  has known thus far   point is   this just a game   you can use W/e weapon you wish but in the real life no sniper would carry  no more than 2 weapons   ammo   and grenades  unless they have back up   or a spotter.

It sounds like sniper infiltrators in ME operate in a very different way from military infiltrators. Rather than using stealth to get within sniper range (on a much larger map) they're using it to escape to a safer range for sniping. The shotgun infiltrator playstyle, using stealth to get within weapons range of your target, is closer to the military infiltrator.

True i agree with that     ME is  basically A fanatasy  RPG   but yea  as i said it doesn't really matter the weapon you use on infilitrators in game  but some of them use  dif load outs compared to most people.

but yea i like to use  snipers   most of the time i only just started today with AR and shotguns on  my shadow class. i normally run Pistol Smg and snipers   hardly any shotguns or Ar's .

in hindsight tho i think that they should make another class Solely for Shot gun users  which be  Easier for both    Recon and snipers.

hell we need a few new classes any way   i'm sure that they can do it maybe have one that excells in battle armor /turrets together  and make another that is stealthy that uses shotgun for bonus's  and such.

Modifié par Sarah Knight, 25 juillet 2012 - 07:36 .

[Rokayt]

You could use the Raptor, and be a real Infiltraitor.

[Imp of the Perverse]

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Anyone else think a shotgun is a better fit for a class called "infiltrator" anyway? If you infiltrate the enemy you're going to be at close range, not on the other side of the map with a sniper rifle.

Answer me this Do you see  or know any one that Serves in the military  currently or use to be that  Used  a shotgun when they wer only Sniping witless idiots through the scope?

Standard equipment  for snipers are as follows.

one Sniper rifle
one radio
Light Armor  specifically  designed for high  bullet impact.
2 grendaes  and flash bangs  claymores /land mines if need be including laser trips.

basically rule of Snipers Travel Light  Stay fast on your feet.

i know this because i have served in the military i am currently serving right now except i am on shore leave i don't go back till this november i'm going to be missing my  kids first christmas  which really bites for me.

infiltrators normally don't  Carry anything other than a sniper and pistol  armor and a few other things including spare ammo for both pistol and rifle .

i would know because i am the best damn  marksmen that my country  has known thus far   point is   this just a game   you can use W/e weapon you wish but in the real life no sniper would carry  no more than 2 weapons   ammo   and grenades  unless they have back up   or a spotter.

It sounds like sniper infiltrators in ME operate in a very different way from military infiltrators. Rather than using stealth to get within sniper range (on a much larger map) they're using it to escape to a safer range for sniping. The shotgun infiltrator playstyle, using stealth to get within weapons range of your target, is closer to the military infiltrator.

True i agree with that     ME is  basically A fanatasy  RPG   but yea  as i said it doesn't really matter the weapon you use on infilitrators in game  but some of them use  dif load outs compared to most people.

but yea i like to use  snipers   most of the time i only just started today with AR and shotguns on  my shadow class. i normally run Pistol Smg and snipers   hardly any shotguns or Ar's .

in hindsight tho i think that they should make another class Solely for Shot gun users  which be  Easier for both    Recon and snipers.

hell we need a few new classes any way   i'm sure that they can do it maybe have one that excells in battle armor /turrets together  and make another that is stealthy that uses shotgun for bonus's  and such.

Yeah, the shadow really introduced me to that playstyle, I'd used a GPS on my geth infiltrator but with damage tactical cloak rather than duration, so I wouldn't use it for much other than the damage boost. With the shadow though you use cloak to get up close, and after trying the piranha with her I switch my geth infiltrator to duration cloak and a piranha and started using it to flank enemies, it's a lot more fun.

[Sarah Knight]

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Anyone else think a shotgun is a better fit for a class called "infiltrator" anyway? If you infiltrate the enemy you're going to be at close range, not on the other side of the map with a sniper rifle.

Answer me this Do you see  or know any one that Serves in the military  currently or use to be that  Used  a shotgun when they wer only Sniping witless idiots through the scope?

Standard equipment  for snipers are as follows.

one Sniper rifle
one radio
Light Armor  specifically  designed for high  bullet impact.
2 grendaes  and flash bangs  claymores /land mines if need be including laser trips.

basically rule of Snipers Travel Light  Stay fast on your feet.

i know this because i have served in the military i am currently serving right now except i am on shore leave i don't go back till this november i'm going to be missing my  kids first christmas  which really bites for me.

infiltrators normally don't  Carry anything other than a sniper and pistol  armor and a few other things including spare ammo for both pistol and rifle .

i would know because i am the best damn  marksmen that my country  has known thus far   point is   this just a game   you can use W/e weapon you wish but in the real life no sniper would carry  no more than 2 weapons   ammo   and grenades  unless they have back up   or a spotter.

It sounds like sniper infiltrators in ME operate in a very different way from military infiltrators. Rather than using stealth to get within sniper range (on a much larger map) they're using it to escape to a safer range for sniping. The shotgun infiltrator playstyle, using stealth to get within weapons range of your target, is closer to the military infiltrator.

True i agree with that     ME is  basically A fanatasy  RPG   but yea  as i said it doesn't really matter the weapon you use on infilitrators in game  but some of them use  dif load outs compared to most people.

but yea i like to use  snipers   most of the time i only just started today with AR and shotguns on  my shadow class. i normally run Pistol Smg and snipers   hardly any shotguns or Ar's .

in hindsight tho i think that they should make another class Solely for Shot gun users  which be  Easier for both    Recon and snipers.

hell we need a few new classes any way   i'm sure that they can do it maybe have one that excells in battle armor /turrets together  and make another that is stealthy that uses shotgun for bonus's  and such.

Yeah, the shadow really introduced me to that playstyle, I'd used a GPS on my geth infiltrator but with damage tactical cloak rather than duration, so I wouldn't use it for much other than the damage boost. With the shadow though you use cloak to get up close, and after trying the piranha with her I switch my geth infiltrator to duration cloak and a piranha and started using it to flank enemies, it's a lot more fun.

yes i agree  it got me into the same play style to  for mine i have   duration   power  effect to use 2  of them then i have ES  at lvl 4  SS   and N7 shadow at 5 and sword mastery  to lvl 6   i dominate with my abilites one of my friends  actually got me into doing that and well i am thinking about experimenting with my other classes that way to and see if i like it .

btw if you want to add me  Imp add Gothic Julia  on XBL   its my gamer tag heh