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[joker_jack]

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Anyone else think a shotgun is a better fit for a class called "infiltrator" anyway? If you infiltrate the enemy you're going to be at close range, not on the other side of the map with a sniper rifle.

Answer me this Do you see  or know any one that Serves in the military  currently or use to be that  Used  a shotgun when they wer only Sniping witless idiots through the scope?

Standard equipment  for snipers are as follows.

one Sniper rifle
one radio
Light Armor  specifically  designed for high  bullet impact.
2 grendaes  and flash bangs  claymores /land mines if need be including laser trips.

basically rule of Snipers Travel Light  Stay fast on your feet.

i know this because i have served in the military i am currently serving right now except i am on shore leave i don't go back till this november i'm going to be missing my  kids first christmas  which really bites for me.

infiltrators normally don't  Carry anything other than a sniper and pistol  armor and a few other things including spare ammo for both pistol and rifle .

i would know because i am the best damn  marksmen that my country  has known thus far   point is   this just a game   you can use W/e weapon you wish but in the real life no sniper would carry  no more than 2 weapons   ammo   and grenades  unless they have back up   or a spotter.

ah yes   my load out  irl   is as follows. "irl = in real life"

1:  50 cal Sniper rifle
1: Desert Eagle
2 Flash bangs
2 frag grenades
2 claymores
2 laser trips and motion detectors
1 night vision ballistic goggles with thermal  vision.
light armor  with no sleeves "yes i am that insane to not protect my  arms they are bionic any way bullets only scratch it.  Cutting edge fyi.
20 clips each for 50 cal and the desert eagle.

no   AR  no
Shotgun  "depending the mission i get assigned to  most of it is Sniping duty that i get asigned to any way.
wanted to post this so you know the standard load outs of most recon units in the field. "minus my arms ofc" those wer different issue in general  i had to prove to them that i can still fight  hell i did   but thank god i don't serve  in america because they be like "no human arms  no active duty" my home land   isn't as retarded and racist they are  "no offense to any one intended" just tired of  what america is like.

"tho i know their are others that aren't racist so i take back  my   well saying any way  just the arms forces fault for that lame law/rule.

Alot of friends and family I've had come back from over seas have quoted alot of use of .50 cal snipers. Barret 50 if not mistaken. One is currently "borrowing" a Dragunov which looks to be the irl equivalent to the valiant. Sorry though you won't make it to see your family for xmas. Some family I've got here where I'm at are glad they don't have to go back over seas. Most after doing thier minimum 4 year got out. I don't blame them. The things they've said about what the American military was like was...not as civil as what you said about this military to say the least.

Modifié par joker_jack, 25 juillet 2012 - 08:19 .

[Imp of the Perverse]

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Anyone else think a shotgun is a better fit for a class called "infiltrator" anyway? If you infiltrate the enemy you're going to be at close range, not on the other side of the map with a sniper rifle.

Answer me this Do you see  or know any one that Serves in the military  currently or use to be that  Used  a shotgun when they wer only Sniping witless idiots through the scope?

Standard equipment  for snipers are as follows.

one Sniper rifle
one radio
Light Armor  specifically  designed for high  bullet impact.
2 grendaes  and flash bangs  claymores /land mines if need be including laser trips.

basically rule of Snipers Travel Light  Stay fast on your feet.

i know this because i have served in the military i am currently serving right now except i am on shore leave i don't go back till this november i'm going to be missing my  kids first christmas  which really bites for me.

infiltrators normally don't  Carry anything other than a sniper and pistol  armor and a few other things including spare ammo for both pistol and rifle .

i would know because i am the best damn  marksmen that my country  has known thus far   point is   this just a game   you can use W/e weapon you wish but in the real life no sniper would carry  no more than 2 weapons   ammo   and grenades  unless they have back up   or a spotter.

It sounds like sniper infiltrators in ME operate in a very different way from military infiltrators. Rather than using stealth to get within sniper range (on a much larger map) they're using it to escape to a safer range for sniping. The shotgun infiltrator playstyle, using stealth to get within weapons range of your target, is closer to the military infiltrator.

True i agree with that     ME is  basically A fanatasy  RPG   but yea  as i said it doesn't really matter the weapon you use on infilitrators in game  but some of them use  dif load outs compared to most people.

but yea i like to use  snipers   most of the time i only just started today with AR and shotguns on  my shadow class. i normally run Pistol Smg and snipers   hardly any shotguns or Ar's .

in hindsight tho i think that they should make another class Solely for Shot gun users  which be  Easier for both    Recon and snipers.

hell we need a few new classes any way   i'm sure that they can do it maybe have one that excells in battle armor /turrets together  and make another that is stealthy that uses shotgun for bonus's  and such.

Yeah, the shadow really introduced me to that playstyle, I'd used a GPS on my geth infiltrator but with damage tactical cloak rather than duration, so I wouldn't use it for much other than the damage boost. With the shadow though you use cloak to get up close, and after trying the piranha with her I switch my geth infiltrator to duration cloak and a piranha and started using it to flank enemies, it's a lot more fun.

yes i agree  it got me into the same play style to  for mine i have   duration   power  effect to use 2  of them then i have ES  at lvl 4  SS   and N7 shadow at 5 and sword mastery  to lvl 6   i dominate with my abilites one of my friends  actually got me into doing that and well i am thinking about experimenting with my other classes that way to and see if i like it .

btw if you want to add me  Imp add Gothic Julia  on XBL   its my gamer tag heh  

My shadow isn't specced at the moment, I promoted to try out the new geth infiltrator build, but it was 60666 - I took the passive for max weight capacity, and skipped electric slash since I always forget about it, you sort of get into a different mindset when you're shadow striking everything. I'm kind of waiting to see if they fix the final rank of fitness to apply to shadow strike before I respec.

Thanks for the invite, I'm on PC though:unsure:

Modifié par Imp of the Perverse, 25 juillet 2012 - 08:24 .

[xsdob]

I snipe with an engineer, the turrent is my spotter and bodyguard and I can rain stuns and shot death like nobodies business.

Cloaking in sniping, what's the point when your already too far away to get hit?

[Sarah Knight]

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Anyone else think a shotgun is a better fit for a class called "infiltrator" anyway? If you infiltrate the enemy you're going to be at close range, not on the other side of the map with a sniper rifle.

Answer me this Do you see  or know any one that Serves in the military  currently or use to be that  Used  a shotgun when they wer only Sniping witless idiots through the scope?

Standard equipment  for snipers are as follows.

one Sniper rifle
one radio
Light Armor  specifically  designed for high  bullet impact.
2 grendaes  and flash bangs  claymores /land mines if need be including laser trips.

basically rule of Snipers Travel Light  Stay fast on your feet.

i know this because i have served in the military i am currently serving right now except i am on shore leave i don't go back till this november i'm going to be missing my  kids first christmas  which really bites for me.

infiltrators normally don't  Carry anything other than a sniper and pistol  armor and a few other things including spare ammo for both pistol and rifle .

i would know because i am the best damn  marksmen that my country  has known thus far   point is   this just a game   you can use W/e weapon you wish but in the real life no sniper would carry  no more than 2 weapons   ammo   and grenades  unless they have back up   or a spotter.

It sounds like sniper infiltrators in ME operate in a very different way from military infiltrators. Rather than using stealth to get within sniper range (on a much larger map) they're using it to escape to a safer range for sniping. The shotgun infiltrator playstyle, using stealth to get within weapons range of your target, is closer to the military infiltrator.

True i agree with that     ME is  basically A fanatasy  RPG   but yea  as i said it doesn't really matter the weapon you use on infilitrators in game  but some of them use  dif load outs compared to most people.

but yea i like to use  snipers   most of the time i only just started today with AR and shotguns on  my shadow class. i normally run Pistol Smg and snipers   hardly any shotguns or Ar's .

in hindsight tho i think that they should make another class Solely for Shot gun users  which be  Easier for both    Recon and snipers.

hell we need a few new classes any way   i'm sure that they can do it maybe have one that excells in battle armor /turrets together  and make another that is stealthy that uses shotgun for bonus's  and such.

Yeah, the shadow really introduced me to that playstyle, I'd used a GPS on my geth infiltrator but with damage tactical cloak rather than duration, so I wouldn't use it for much other than the damage boost. With the shadow though you use cloak to get up close, and after trying the piranha with her I switch my geth infiltrator to duration cloak and a piranha and started using it to flank enemies, it's a lot more fun.

yes i agree  it got me into the same play style to  for mine i have   duration   power  effect to use 2  of them then i have ES  at lvl 4  SS   and N7 shadow at 5 and sword mastery  to lvl 6   i dominate with my abilites one of my friends  actually got me into doing that and well i am thinking about experimenting with my other classes that way to and see if i like it .

btw if you want to add me  Imp add Gothic Julia  on XBL   its my gamer tag heh  

My shadow isn't specced at the moment, I promoted to try out the new geth infiltrator build, but it was 60666 - I took the passive for max weight capacity, and skipped electric slash since I always forget about it, you sort of get into a different mindset when you're shadow striking everything. I'm kind of waiting to see if they fix the final rank of fitness to apply to shadow strike before I respec.

Thanks for the invite, I'm on PC though:unsure:

ah i see  yea this set up is good  to maybe you should give it a try some time?
and ah  thats okay don't worry about it you could add me on here if you wish heh . either or 

[Sarah Knight]

xsdob wrote...

I snipe with an engineer, the turrent is my spotter and bodyguard and I can rain stuns and shot death like nobodies business.

Cloaking in sniping, what's the point when your already too far away to get hit?

its  clear that you don't understand Snipers rules of engagement.  or the sniper class in general perhaps both.

snipers   are "one shot kill" and like to snipe farther ranges without being hit at all  due to them traveling light  and being the most Damaging SOB  that the miltary has in its infantry division   in turn snipers can drop any target cleanly at 300+Yards   irl  i can drop any one within  900-1000 yardsdue to my   hand eye coordination  which is why my friends hates me when i'm dropping them with one shot on battle field and any other pvp sniper based game well games with snipers in it  any way.

but the point is  Tac Cloak is a life saver   for infiltrators because you can  get  your teamates up without being dropped yourself  especially if theirs a phantom  or a geth hunter/pyro wanting to kill you or a banshee for that matter or some other over powered enemy .  you do allot more damage than you do on a  pathetic     Engineer in my opinion   in terms of sniping  i prefer  infiltrators in terms of being a douchebag with   the particle rifle/other AR's/Smgs or shotguns i'll use destroyer or  the demolisher  but i personally don't care much for soldiers Sentinels    Vangaurds   or Engineers  Adept/infiltratorts are for me.

[Sarah Knight]

joker_jack wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Anyone else think a shotgun is a better fit for a class called "infiltrator" anyway? If you infiltrate the enemy you're going to be at close range, not on the other side of the map with a sniper rifle.

Answer me this Do you see  or know any one that Serves in the military  currently or use to be that  Used  a shotgun when they wer only Sniping witless idiots through the scope?

Standard equipment  for snipers are as follows.

one Sniper rifle
one radio
Light Armor  specifically  designed for high  bullet impact.
2 grendaes  and flash bangs  claymores /land mines if need be including laser trips.

basically rule of Snipers Travel Light  Stay fast on your feet.

i know this because i have served in the military i am currently serving right now except i am on shore leave i don't go back till this november i'm going to be missing my  kids first christmas  which really bites for me.

infiltrators normally don't  Carry anything other than a sniper and pistol  armor and a few other things including spare ammo for both pistol and rifle .

i would know because i am the best damn  marksmen that my country  has known thus far   point is   this just a game   you can use W/e weapon you wish but in the real life no sniper would carry  no more than 2 weapons   ammo   and grenades  unless they have back up   or a spotter.

ah yes   my load out  irl   is as follows. "irl = in real life"

1:  50 cal Sniper rifle
1: Desert Eagle
2 Flash bangs
2 frag grenades
2 claymores
2 laser trips and motion detectors
1 night vision ballistic goggles with thermal  vision.
light armor  with no sleeves "yes i am that insane to not protect my  arms they are bionic any way bullets only scratch it.  Cutting edge fyi.
20 clips each for 50 cal and the desert eagle.

no   AR  no
Shotgun  "depending the mission i get assigned to  most of it is Sniping duty that i get asigned to any way.
wanted to post this so you know the standard load outs of most recon units in the field. "minus my arms ofc" those wer different issue in general  i had to prove to them that i can still fight  hell i did   but thank god i don't serve  in america because they be like "no human arms  no active duty" my home land   isn't as retarded and racist they are  "no offense to any one intended" just tired of  what america is like.

"tho i know their are others that aren't racist so i take back  my   well saying any way  just the arms forces fault for that lame law/rule.

Alot of friends and family I've had come back from over seas have quoted alot of use of .50 cal snipers. Barret 50 if not mistaken. One is currently "borrowing" a Dragunov which looks to be the irl equivalent to the valiant. Sorry though you won't make it to see your family for xmas. Some family I've got here where I'm at are glad they don't have to go back over seas. Most after doing thier minimum 4 year got out. I don't blame them. The things they've said about what the American military was like was...not as civil as what you said about this military to say the least.

yea this will be  my 5th   Year serving in the Russian army  so far  most of my family served between  5-10 years  of active duty after this year i'm retiring    and getting a nice case for my uniform and have my medals  on it  and have my 50 cal right inside the case with my Desert eagle   the things i  have seen isn't for the "quimsy"  i guess  you could say and yes the barret 50  is what i use  altho i do tend to use the KSVK or the MSR   which is  Equal to  a 50 cal in terms of firepower and Damage   pretty good  tho  and yea sadly  i want to be here for christmas but atleast they let us call our familes on our special day and wish them  a merry chrismtas and check on them on our off duty patrol hours which is any where from 4-6 hrs  i think as i recall before your back on patroll again but don't matter to me on patrol wise  my sister Diane will be their serving   their when i'm going as well she's an apache  pilot as well as a black hawk pilot to  but she basically goes  between those two  area's  of helo's   heh

but yea if you wish to add me here you can and if you wish to add me on xbl you can  "xbl gamertag is  Gothic Julia"

got one last spot left and   yea heh ...

[WaffleCrab]

I think the op never looked at the development of inf. despite them having a buff for sniper damage, and weight, they were developed with shotguns in mind, even the highlights prior and after release emphazise that aspect of the class. Inf. with a shotgun.

[Sarah Knight]

WaffleCrab wrote...

I think the op never looked at the development of inf. despite them having a buff for sniper damage, and weight, they were developed with shotguns in mind, even the highlights prior and after release emphazise that aspect of the class. Inf. with a shotgun.

if you looked at ME1 and ME 2 they wer asigned with only a pistol and a Sniper rifle and a smg  no shot gun no  AR   it  always has  been since those two games   only recently  they  removed the "Weapon  blocks" that wer Assigned to the classes  in campain and MP but MP is limiting it to two  weapons  in turn that effects your  powers like it does with  campaign if over weight.

so your statement is  well irrelavent  to the thread because the facts out weigh  your statement  if you played the first two games   "me1 gave you the option to equip  either AR or shotgun" once you gotten the 150 kills with it  but that was the only time that it was permitted to use the shotgun  with the infiltrator  class  in me2  same thing you got the choice to choose between the same options   but the infilitrator class was never intended for  shotguns  that is the Vanguard  Solely  or the Soldier class.

Adept sentinels  and engineers Solely used  Smgs   and pistols.  Soldiers use all of the above   Vangaurds pistol shotguns and smgs   infiltrators Smgs  snipers and pistols.  nuff said and facts behind both of them and my claims if you played every   game thus far and understood it clearly as i do.

Me3 removed it as i stated earlier in my post to where you are not limited to use   a certain weapon. you can use anything you wish to  which is why i find this  this topic about the infiltrators really laughable  because its clear that no one truly understands it  aside from a few people .

My  Advice Go back to the previous games and understand each class and which weapons they wer  originally  Assigned .<_<

[taomang]

The krysae was a weapon created to counteract the Reapers.

NOT ANYMORE, says bioware with a troll face~

[WaffleCrab]

[quote]Sarah Knight wrote...

Answer me this Do you see  or know any one that Serves in the military  currently or use to be that  Used  a shotgun when they wer only Sniping witless idiots through the scope?
[/quote]

You do not snipe witless idiots, you snipe according to situation, officers, patrols, enemy combatants, vital equipment and/or support personnel. To create fear and confusion (which is why there is one unspoken rule, a sniper can generally expect not to be taken a prisoner, rather shot on sight when caught)

And in some countries in europe and asia, snipers gear(if carrying a light enough rifle or gear to begin with) includes a 4-6 shot pump action 12 or 20 gauge with a short barrel.

[quote]
Standard equipment  for snipers are as follows.

one Sniper rifle
one radio
Light Armor  specifically  designed for high  bullet impact.
2 grendaes  and flash bangs  claymores /land mines if need be including laser trips.
[/quote]

There is no such thing as standard equipment. you are equipped according to your task, only thing that doesnt change is your combat pack and its contents, and your rifle.

Combat pack usually being The radio you mentioned, minus the mines that is something you have according to what tasks you have been given.

Add a survival knife.
Thin thermal planket
field canteen 0.75-1 litres.
spare ammo
No grenades.

anything else is extra. The pack you described sounds like an incomplete field recon pack, and they work in pairs to begin with. But even snipers who work in pairs dont carry that kind of **** around. Where do you get your info really? the movies?

[quote]
basically rule of Snipers Travel Light  Stay fast on your feet.
[/quote]

No the basic rule of snipers is, advance slow and prone or short distance sprints, make no sound and keep your gear so it doesnt give away a glint. Also you cant hardly say they travel light, their full combat packs easily weigh an excess of 30 kilograms. Rifles alone weigh anything from 7,8kg from the lighter sturdy ones to the 14 kilos barret, then you got your other gear on top of that, and the spare ammo, and your side arm or back up gear. That **** aint light. The basic Grunts combat gear in comparison, with their service rifle and ammo included weighs around 12-15 kilos max. and only the spotter carries the gogles.

[quote]
infiltrators normally don't  Carry anything other than a sniper and pistol  armor and a few other things including spare ammo for both pistol and rifle .
[/quote]

Soldiers tasked for infiltrator duty do not carry sniper rifles or their service rifles for that matter, unless it is a scouting party I.E. a group of people doing it. Infiltrators are given apropriate colored vest, fatiques helmet and a pistol with 3-5 spare clips, same things a jet a pilot would carry with him in a cokpit. + gogles

[quote]
i would know because i am the best damn  marksmen that my country  has known thus far   point is   this just a game   you can use W/e weapon you wish but in the real life no sniper would carry  no more than 2 weapons   ammo   and grenades  unless they have back up   or a spotter.
[/quote]

I fear for your country, since with that knowledge you could not have passed ground combat school not in any country in the western hemisphere atleast. and in most on the eastern either.

[quote]
ah yes   my load out  irl   is as follows. "irl = in real life"

1:  50 cal Sniper rifle
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14 kilos
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1: Desert Eagle
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lil under 2 kilos, with 2-3 spare clips 2 kilos on the dot.
[quote]
2 Flash bangs
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thats 900 grams more.
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2 frag grenades
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aprox 1,1-1.3 kilos more, depending on type.
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2 claymores
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3.1 kilos more
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2 laser trips and motion detectors
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can be anything from half a kilo to a kilo if you got 2 of both.
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1 night vision ballistic goggles with thermal  vision.
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This would be something a spotter carries

[quote]
light armor  with no sleeves "yes i am that insane to not protect my  arms they are bionic any way bullets only scratch it.  Cutting edge fyi.
20 clips each for 50 cal and the desert eagle.
[/quote]




ok we can now officially forget the motto you mentioned earlier, that **** is heavy no matter how you look at it.
The **** you carry to combat sounds more and more unrealistic the further i read it.

[quote]
no   AR  no
Shotgun  "depending the mission i get assigned to  most of it is Sniping duty that i get asigned to any way.
wanted to post this so you know the standard load outs of most recon units in the field. "minus my arms ofc" those wer different issue in general  i had to prove to them that i can still fight  hell i did   but thank god i don't serve  in america because they be like "no human arms  no active duty" my home land   isn't as retarded and racist they are  "no offense to any one intended" just tired of  what america is like.
[/quote]

I garan"damn"tee that if you ever get someone to let you carry all that ****, or if they make you carry all that ****, they are laughing inside, at you. Or are just plain neglegent
And i am having hard time believing even russian armed forces would let you carry that **** without laughing at your face, not even speznaz.

Modifié par WaffleCrab, 25 juillet 2012 - 10:21 .

[WaffleCrab]

Sarah Knight wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

I think the op never looked at the development of inf. despite them having a buff for sniper damage, and weight, they were developed with shotguns in mind, even the highlights prior and after release emphazise that aspect of the class. Inf. with a shotgun.

if you looked at ME1 and ME 2 they wer asigned with only a pistol and a Sniper rifle and a smg  no shot gun no  AR   it  always has  been since those two games   only recently  they  removed the "Weapon  blocks" that wer Assigned to the classes  in campain and MP but MP is limiting it to two  weapons  in turn that effects your  powers like it does with  campaign if over weight.

so your statement is  well irrelavent  to the thread because the facts out weigh  your statement  if you played the first two games   "me1 gave you the option to equip  either AR or shotgun" once you gotten the 150 kills with it  but that was the only time that it was permitted to use the shotgun  with the infiltrator  class  in me2  same thing you got the choice to choose between the same options   but the infilitrator class was never intended for  shotguns  that is the Vanguard  Solely  or the Soldier class.

Adept sentinels  and engineers Solely used  Smgs   and pistols.  Soldiers use all of the above   Vangaurds pistol shotguns and smgs   infiltrators Smgs  snipers and pistols.  nuff said and facts behind both of them and my claims if you played every   game thus far and understood it clearly as i do.

Me3 removed it as i stated earlier in my post to where you are not limited to use   a certain weapon. you can use anything you wish to  which is why i find this  this topic about the infiltrators really laughable  because its clear that no one truly understands it  aside from a few people .

My  Advice Go back to the previous games and understand each class and which weapons they wer  originally  Assigned .<_<

My advice, look at the game your playing, this is not ME1 or ME2. it is ME3.

Edit: and yeah i played both ME1 and ME2, M1 i played through 8 times, and ME2 over 20 times. But we are not playing with ME1 and ME2 infs. in ME3.

Modifié par WaffleCrab, 25 juillet 2012 - 10:22 .

[bob2.0]

*Reads Sarah Knight's post regarding snipers.*

You know you sound full of absolute ****, right? Every single thing you said goes against the most basic infantry doctrines, much less a Scout/Sniper team.

Not even gonna start on the bionic arms thing.

Holy ****ing ****.

[Sarah Knight]

[quote]WaffleCrab wrote...

[quote]Sarah Knight wrote...

Answer me this Do you see  or know any one that Serves in the military  currently or use to be that  Used  a shotgun when they wer only Sniping witless idiots through the scope?
[/quote]

You do not snipe witless idiots, you snipe according to situation, officers, patrols, enemy combatants, vital equipment and/or support personnel. To create fear and confusion (which is why there is one unspoken rule, a sniper can generally expect not to be taken a prisoner, rather shot on sight when caught)

And in some countries in europe and asia, snipers gear(if carrying a light enough rifle or gear to begin with) includes a 4-6 shot pump action 12 or 20 gauge with a short barrel.

[quote]
Standard equipment  for snipers are as follows.

one Sniper rifle
one radio
Light Armor  specifically  designed for high  bullet impact.
2 grendaes  and flash bangs  claymores /land mines if need be including laser trips.
[/quote]

There is no such thing as standard equipment. you are equipped according to your task, only thing that doesnt change is your combat pack and its contents, and your rifle.

Combat pack usually being The radio you mentioned, minus the mines that is something you have according to what tasks you have been given.

Add a survival knife.
Thin thermal planket
field canteen 0.75-1 litres.
spare ammo
No grenades.

anything else is extra. The pack you described sounds like an incomplete field recon pack, and they work in pairs to begin with. But even snipers who work in pairs dont carry that kind of **** around. Where do you get your info really? the movies?

[quote]
basically rule of Snipers Travel Light  Stay fast on your feet.
[/quote]

No the basic rule of snipers is, advance slow and prone or short distance sprints, make no sound and keep your gear so it doesnt give away a glint. Also you cant hardly say they travel light, their full combat packs easily weigh an excess of 30 kilograms. Rifles alone weigh anything from 7,8kg from the lighter sturdy ones to the 14 kilos barret, then you got your other gear on top of that, and the spare ammo, and your side arm or back up gear. That **** aint light. The basic Grunts combat gear in comparison, with their service rifle and ammo included weighs around 12-15 kilos max. and only the spotter carries the gogles.

[quote]
infiltrators normally don't  Carry anything other than a sniper and pistol  armor and a few other things including spare ammo for both pistol and rifle .
[/quote]

Soldiers tasked for infiltrator duty do not carry sniper rifles or their service rifles for that matter, unless it is a scouting party I.E. a group of people doing it. Infiltrators are given apropriate colored vest, fatiques helmet and a pistol with 3-5 spare clips, same things a jet a pilot would carry with him in a cokpit. + gogles

[quote]
i would know because i am the best damn  marksmen that my country  has known thus far   point is   this just a game   you can use W/e weapon you wish but in the real life no sniper would carry  no more than 2 weapons   ammo   and grenades  unless they have back up   or a spotter.
[/quote]

I fear for your country, since with that knowledge you could not have passed ground combat school not in any country in the western hemisphere atleast. and in most on the eastern either.

[quote]
ah yes   my load out  irl   is as follows. "irl = in real life"

1:  50 cal Sniper rifle
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14 kilos
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1: Desert Eagle
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lil under 2 kilos, with 2-3 spare clips 2 kilos on the dot.
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2 Flash bangs
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thats 900 grams more.
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2 frag grenades
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aprox 1,1-1.3 kilos more, depending on type.
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2 claymores
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3.1 kilos more
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2 laser trips and motion detectors
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can be anything from half a kilo to a kilo if you got 2 of both.
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1 night vision ballistic goggles with thermal  vision.
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This would be something a spotter carries

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light armor  with no sleeves "yes i am that insane to not protect my  arms they are bionic any way bullets only scratch it.  Cutting edge fyi.
20 clips each for 50 cal and the desert eagle.
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ok we can now officially forget the motto you mentioned earlier, that **** is heavy no matter how you look at it.
The **** you carry to combat sounds more and more unrealistic the further i read it.

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no   AR  no
Shotgun  "depending the mission i get assigned to  most of it is Sniping duty that i get asigned to any way.
wanted to post this so you know the standard load outs of most recon units in the field. "minus my arms ofc" those wer different issue in general  i had to prove to them that i can still fight  hell i did   but thank god i don't serve  in america because they be like "no human arms  no active duty" my home land   isn't as retarded and racist they are  "no offense to any one intended" just tired of  what america is like.
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I garan"damn"tee that if you ever get someone to let you carry all that ****, or if they make you carry all that ****, they are laughing inside, at you. Or are just plain neglegent
And i am having hard time believing even russian armed forces would let you carry that **** without laughing at your face, not even speznaz.
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i dont Carry Standard Equipment  i like to travel   a little heavy not by much  as i said in some Area's its Different than the "American  armed forces"   which imo  is the worst military known  to mankind due to its Descrimination to people with robotic arms    i serve in the speznas forces   but i am the best on my team  and in my current miltary  every  General in the army that i've spoken to have not Seen a damn soldier doing what  i do  on a day to day basis   sure they brag about having the best military power    across the globe i bet if  the Russian army   cuts itself  from sharing  their Tech with the us govrnment on top of other countries  the usa would topple in a heart beat  with it being alone and easy prey . just saying    ecause their  tech  is actually shared with other    countries and area's.no soldier in the army  that i  have come to known and  respect can do what i can  which is why your  so called "US" government likes to Discriminate  others   because they think because they don't have  "human  arms and lims"   they can't do what a normal soldier can do  i on the other hand i  am living proof.

i'm not payed  to please you i'm not payed to even make you believe me hell i couldn't care less what  you think  i know my life better than any one   that has met me briefly or has been friends with me for years.

but believe what you want   i honestly don't care  really   and  you obviously  proven to me that your a child with that picture of a mangy mongrel   that i'd rather give it to an asian  community just for them to have a meal  i'm sure they love Dogs and cats   for meals.  
and Fyi  about your post  you obviously have less reading skills than  i had predicted  if you read my comment you would of understood that i said that they REMOVED THE ASSIGNED WEAPON BLOCKS  that they had in the previous  titles   any way i'm done arguing with a mere child  so enjoy your day  or W/e you are doing i honestly couldn't care but enjoy it  cause i'm done speaking  to you..<_<

[Xar-ko]

^ rofl he is so mad

On topic tho , infiltrators are fine imo.

Modifié par Xar-ko, 25 juillet 2012 - 10:55 .

[Sarah Knight]

bob2.0 wrote...

*Reads Sarah Knight's post regarding snipers.*

You know you sound full of absolute ****, right? Every single thing you said goes against the most basic infantry doctrines, much less a Scout/Sniper team.

Not even gonna start on the bionic arms thing.

Holy ****ing ****.

again like that  kid that i was done arguing with its obvious you are as well . i don't carry standard  Equipment i don't  i rather be light with allot of ammo  at my side  as grunt would as  "i don't need luck  i have ammo"

as for my arm is prosthetic   that my sister made  cutting edge hurt like hell when she and the doctors installed it but to me its saved my life from so many bullets that could of nearly ended it .

but as i said to that other user before you i'm not payed to please you or make you or him believe what i stated  every military is different compared to what your  use to from your countries  and every person   likes a different load out than "standardized equipement" being Teir one gives you access to the best tech that no lower class militaries would have  the stuff i use is more  advanced  than  what the normal army uses  every   army has   their "black ops/special  teams when the dirt hits the fan" i am one of them. but believe what you wish  i'm not going to argue  Military doctrines with you   or anything that i have stated  Arguing about  something like that is very childish and i for one   will not argue over it. so i'm done    and no other message you'll get from me.

[Aethyl]

But yeah, Sarah Knight, I have some difficulties to trust your affirmations, considering your Profile comment and the fact that all your "knowledge" seems to come from bad war movies.

Anyway, it's the Internet, and everyone can be who he wants to be as long as he says it.
And if you really are an elite Marksman from russia then, my sincere apologies. :happy:

And also yeah, Infiltrators are fine this way.

Modifié par Aethyl, 25 juillet 2012 - 11:02 .

[Sarah Knight]

Xar-ko wrote...

^ rofl he is so mad

On topic tho , infiltrators are fine imo.

you mean She and no  i'm not mad it Takes allot more than a mere Child  to anger me  i put up with alot more crap from my kids and siblings than they could even dish out to anger me   even then  it be next to impossible to anger me i control my anger better than most people.

if they don't believe me fine i honestly  don't care  i like my load out better than most  people  any way.

[Sarah Knight]

Aethyl wrote...



But yeah, Sarah Knight, I have some difficulties to trust your affirmations, considering your Profile comment and the fact that all your "knowledge" seems to come from bad war movies.

Anyway, it's the Internet, and everyone can be who he wants to be as long as he says it.
And if you really are an elite Marksman from russia then, my apologies. :happy:

And also yeah, Infiltrators are fine this way.

funny   another child likes to insult eh ?  believe what you want  as i told the other lil kiddes before you  i'm not payed   to  make you or them believe me  i don't go by "standard  Equipment"  besides  its childish to argue with a mere child not to mention any one else for that matter.

believe what you wish  the only  child that i see are little wimps that use "crap they pulled off of photobucket" or crap they pre recorded themselves.

[Aethyl]

Sarah Knight wrote...

Aethyl wrote...



But yeah, Sarah Knight, I have some difficulties to trust your affirmations, considering your Profile comment and the fact that all your "knowledge" seems to come from bad war movies.

Anyway, it's the Internet, and everyone can be who he wants to be as long as he says it.
And if you really are an elite Marksman from russia then, my apologies. :happy:

And also yeah, Infiltrators are fine this way.

funny   another child likes to insult eh ?  believe what you want  as i told the other lil kiddes before you  i'm not payed   to  make you or them believe me  i don't go by "standard  Equipment"  besides  its childish to argue with a mere child not to mention any one else for that matter.

believe what you wish  the only  child that i see are little wimps that use "crap they pulled off of photobucket" or crap they pre recorded themselves.

I don't see where I insulted you there, you actually seem to be the only one not able to take any neutral comment without acting childish.

There were no sarcasm on my previous sentence, but if you can't understand that, then, so be it.

Modifié par Aethyl, 25 juillet 2012 - 11:08 .

[bob2.0]

Sarah Knight wrote...

Aethyl wrote...



But yeah, Sarah Knight, I have some difficulties to trust your affirmations, considering your Profile comment and the fact that all your "knowledge" seems to come from bad war movies.

Anyway, it's the Internet, and everyone can be who he wants to be as long as he says it.
And if you really are an elite Marksman from russia then, my apologies. :happy:

And also yeah, Infiltrators are fine this way.

funny   another child likes to insult eh ?  believe what you want  as i told the other lil kiddes before you  i'm not payed   to  make you or them believe me  i don't go by "standard  Equipment"  besides  its childish to argue with a mere child not to mention any one else for that matter.

believe what you wish  the only  child that i see are little wimps that use "crap they pulled off of photobucket" or crap they pre recorded themselves.

What the crap, how was that insulting?

[Xar-ko]

Sarah Knight wrote...

Xar-ko wrote...

^ rofl *she is so mad

On topic tho , infiltrators are fine imo.

you mean She and no  i'm not mad it Takes allot more than a mere Child  to anger me  i put up with alot more crap from my kids and siblings than they could even dish out to anger me   even then  it be next to impossible to anger me i control my anger better than most people.

if they don't believe me fine i honestly  don't care  i like my load out better than most  people  any way.

Yea right  If what you showed in this thread is anger control than Im also an elite marksman.

[KentGoldings]

Krysae, because aiming is for suckers,

[Sarah Knight]

bob2.0 wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Aethyl wrote...



But yeah, Sarah Knight, I have some difficulties to trust your affirmations, considering your Profile comment and the fact that all your "knowledge" seems to come from bad war movies.

Anyway, it's the Internet, and everyone can be who he wants to be as long as he says it.
And if you really are an elite Marksman from russia then, my apologies. :happy:

And also yeah, Infiltrators are fine this way.

funny   another child likes to insult eh ?  believe what you want  as i told the other lil kiddes before you  i'm not payed   to  make you or them believe me  i don't go by "standard  Equipment"  besides  its childish to argue with a mere child not to mention any one else for that matter.

believe what you wish  the only  child that i see are little wimps that use "crap they pulled off of photobucket" or crap they pre recorded themselves.

What the crap, how was that insulting?

Every person i came across always used   "pre record films on loop or  pictures of a dog  as an attack basis in their threads  or as a mocking Gesture   which is why i said "insulting"

[Aethyl]

Sarah Knight wrote...

bob2.0 wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Aethyl wrote...



But yeah, Sarah Knight, I have some difficulties to trust your affirmations, considering your Profile comment and the fact that all your "knowledge" seems to come from bad war movies.

Anyway, it's the Internet, and everyone can be who he wants to be as long as he says it.
And if you really are an elite Marksman from russia then, my apologies. :happy:

And also yeah, Infiltrators are fine this way.

funny   another child likes to insult eh ?  believe what you want  as i told the other lil kiddes before you  i'm not payed   to  make you or them believe me  i don't go by "standard  Equipment"  besides  its childish to argue with a mere child not to mention any one else for that matter.

believe what you wish  the only  child that i see are little wimps that use "crap they pulled off of photobucket" or crap they pre recorded themselves.

What the crap, how was that insulting?

Every person i came across always used   "pre record films on loop or  pictures of a dog  as an attack basis in their threads  or as a mocking Gesture   which is why i said "insulting"

The picture wasn't actually directly meant for you. The "popcorn.gif" is usually used to express the interest about a burning argumentation between 2 forumers, here it was you and WaffleCrab.

[Sarah Knight]

Xar-ko wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Xar-ko wrote...

^ rofl *she is so mad

On topic tho , infiltrators are fine imo.

you mean She and no  i'm not mad it Takes allot more than a mere Child  to anger me  i put up with alot more crap from my kids and siblings than they could even dish out to anger me   even then  it be next to impossible to anger me i control my anger better than most people.

if they don't believe me fine i honestly  don't care  i like my load out better than most  people  any way.

Yea right  If what you showed in this thread is anger control than Im also an elite marksman.

Sweety if i was Angry    their would be allot of cussing but is their in any of my  posts aside from "damn"?   no their isn't  on top of the person i got mad at wouldn't be online anymore due to a virus that crashes their computer  and basically makes them  rebuild their computer or  making them spend 300 Dollars or more just to get a brand new one. hell if i wanted to i could ban the users  IP Address  from the internet   i've done it to aallot of my ex friends   any one on here wouldn't be the first  that i would of done it to. but i'm done arguing with a child  since its obviously what you are..