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Operation: Overwatch Weekend Operation July 27-29


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Chris must want to beat his head against a wall.

Reading comprehension, people. The directions are pretty clear.

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ok bioware we need more info does it have to be one member using the earth for the whole squad to get that pack and also does it have to be 800,000 earth charecters to be extracted come on i have 2 earth charecters so im good either way but more clarity would be awsome

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thijs166 wrote...

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

Ok BW PLEASE CLARIFY, AGAIN. Squad goal is Full extraction or partial ok?


Squad Goal: Extraction on any difficulty with at least one squad member using an Earth Pack character 

here ya go. looking forward to it

probaly any character will do


Not looking to start some argument with you, but that quote doesn't actually answer the question that was being asked.  "Extraction on any difficulty with at least one squad member using an Earth Pack character" could mean several things.

It could mean success only on a full extraction of a team that includes at least 1 Earth Pack character.
It could mean success on a partial extraction as long as at least 1 Earth Pack character survives (meaning 3 other non-Earth characters could be left to die and it's still all good).
It could mean extraction of at least 1 character-- any character-- from a team that includes at least 1 Earth Pack character (even if none of the Earth Pack characters make it out).

With unclear syntax that sentence could mean any of those three scenarios.  One *could* simply assume that a full extraction of a team with at least 1 Earth character included will satisfy the conditions, but without specifying more clearly there could be people falling short of that and left uncertain as to whether or not they've succeeded or not.

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I agree, we need clarification and its not too much to ask for considering we'll be spending out entire weekend trying to fulfill this goal.

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OMG PEOPLE its so clear!!! but here let me make it even easier for you to follow:


Enemy: ANY

Map: ANY

Difficulty: ANY

Squad goal: at least ONE person on the team extracts, WHILE HAVING AN EARTH CHARACTER ON THE TEAM. it doesnt matter if its the earth character or a krogan that gets to extraction, as long as AT LEAST ONE DOES.

Allied goal: same as squad goal, except every extracted person counts towards the final goal. if you don't have an earth character on your team, it does not count any of them.


CLEAR?!?!?!?!?!?

Modifié par poptdp, 25 juillet 2012 - 05:46 .


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People are making sure that things are straight this time. The last event the information was givin correctly at the last minute causing the failer.

I would like to know what else can we get if we already have maxed out earth characters?

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Chris Priestly wrote...

"Single". As in "at least one".

I'm glad to clarify, but I thought "single" was already pretty clear.


Yeah and we all though operation broadside was "pretty clear" until you guys failed to explain it and screwed us over. Expect questions like this from now on if the operations are not thoroughly explained.

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[quote]jkthunder wrote...

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NICE! Thanx for clarifying. Banshees make me pee a little.

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ROTFLMAO :lol::D:lol::D:lol:

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An earth based operation?

/Sigh.

I suppose i should at least get my commendation pack.

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Strad_37 wrote...

Yeah and we all though operation broadside was "pretty clear" until you guys failed to explain it and screwed us over. Expect questions like this from now on if the operations are not thoroughly explained.


Yeah we're being punished for their mistake in this regard. Extraction time shouldn't be extended becuase they messed up. However the objectives are clear this time and further clarification has only helped that.

Any player who is extracted counts towards the Allied Goal

The Earth DLC character only has to be in the squad for the individual goal. 

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poptdp wrote...

OMG PEOPLE its so clear!!! but here let me make it even easier for you to follow:


Enemy: ANY

Map: ANY

Difficulty: ANY

Squad goal: at least ONE person on the team extracts, WHILE HAVING AN EARTH CHARACTER ON THE TEAM. it doesnt matter if its the earth character or a krogan that gets to extraction, as long as AT LEAST ONE DOES.

Allied goal: same as squad goal, except every extracted person counts towards the final goal. if you don't have an earth character on your team, it does not count any of them.


CLEAR?!?!?!?!?!?

how sure r u on that enemy part? 

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if we already have all the characters, do we get an extra appearance option for them?? or do we get something else???

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killergeki wrote...

poptdp wrote...

OMG PEOPLE its so clear!!! but here let me make it even easier for you to follow:


Enemy: ANY

Map: ANY

Difficulty: ANY

Squad goal: at least ONE person on the team extracts, WHILE HAVING AN EARTH CHARACTER ON THE TEAM. it doesnt matter if its the earth character or a krogan that gets to extraction, as long as AT LEAST ONE DOES.

Allied goal: same as squad goal, except every extracted person counts towards the final goal. if you don't have an earth character on your team, it does not count any of them.


CLEAR?!?!?!?!?!?

how sure r u on that enemy part? 

because they didnt say "against Reaper faction"... check the previous operations

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For everyone:
According to http://blog.bioware.com/:
"Operation OVERWATCH (July 27th 10AM PDT – July 30th 5AM PDT) "
Also, note it now correctly aligns with Daylight Savings time i.e. PDT (they used to say "PST), thanks for the clarification!

Mostly to Chris:
First, I want to thank you profusely for your, and the Bioware team's, efforts with the game and these weekends.
But I'm afraid, as always, there will be a lot of Q's and suggestions ...  Here are mine :happy:

S1) If possible, align these 3 Op notices (there's one in "News and Announcements", "MP discussion" and the blog site.  They tend to get out of whack with each other.  Note only the Blog lists the times.
S2) I see you are answering each Q in a separate post.  It would really help to have the learnings from these included in the main post (otherwise you'll get the Q's again and again.  And many will still miss them)

I've now checked all your responses in the other thread, and I think I'm straight on them, if I may double check ...

1a) Map doesn't have to be Earth (you can see how that would be confusing from the first sentence in the announcement.  Nice to give context, but it probably threw some off).
1b) It doesn't have to be Reapers?  (again, the first sentence implies it does, but it also implied Earth)

2) Squad goal:
a) at least one member of squad has to be a new Earth DLC character
B) it doesn't have to be my character
c) that earth character doesn't have to survive
d) I don't have to survive.
e) it doesn't have to be against Reapers
So, the following is a success: I play a Krogan in Dagger, there is one N7 Destroyer.  Bronze, against Cerberus.  Neither one of us is extracted, but another (say Asari Adept) does.  All four of us in that game get Squad goal commendations.  Correct?

3) Allied Goal:
Absolutely no restrictions (map, character, any difficulty level, enemy).  If one player extracts from the mission, it counts 1 to the 800K.  If 4 extract, it counts 4 to the 800K.  This one is hard to misread (except for Reaper vs. any ...I think) :happy:

[Edit: aaack, I just read one of your responses.  It says for the Allied goal, at least one of the squad members in the mission (not necessarily extracted) has to be new Earth DLC character)!  You need to add this to the first POST!.  This is NOT obvious! i.e. ...

Allied Goal: Extract 800,000 individual players on any difficulty, with each live member counting toward the goal. At least one squad member is an Earth Pack character (note that squad member doesn't necessarily need to extract)

Modifié par DocDAM, 25 juillet 2012 - 06:07 .


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poptdp wrote...

OMG PEOPLE its so clear!!! but here let me make it even easier for you to follow:


Enemy: ANY

Map: ANY

Difficulty: ANY

Squad goal: at least ONE person on the team extracts, WHILE HAVING AN EARTH CHARACTER ON THE TEAM. it doesnt matter if its the earth character or a krogan that gets to extraction, as long as AT LEAST ONE DOES.

Allied goal: same as squad goal, except every extracted person counts towards the final goal. if you don't have an earth character on your team, it does not count any of them.


CLEAR?!?!?!?!?!?


Thanks, this is a very helpful breakdown - it's all anyone is asking for here.  It would be great if Bioware would adopt this format for explaining future missions - it would eliminate a lot of the confusion.

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poptdp wrote...

killergeki wrote...

poptdp wrote...

OMG PEOPLE its so clear!!! but here let me make it even easier for you to follow:


Enemy: ANY

Map: ANY

Difficulty: ANY

Squad goal: at least ONE person on the team extracts, WHILE HAVING AN EARTH CHARACTER ON THE TEAM. it doesnt matter if its the earth character or a krogan that gets to extraction, as long as AT LEAST ONE DOES.

Allied goal: same as squad goal, except every extracted person counts towards the final goal. if you don't have an earth character on your team, it does not count any of them.


CLEAR?!?!?!?!?!?

how sure r u on that enemy part? 

because they didnt say "against Reaper faction"... check the previous operations


but read this operation it states this "Operation OVERWATCH drops troops on Earth to tackle the most secure Reaper strongholds. Reaper anti-air defense will make for high-risk shuttle extractions."

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ok so chris clarified a little more but does it have to be reapers and does it have to be on a earth map thats all i need answered

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canerican wrote...

if we already have all the characters, do we get an extra appearance option for them?? or do we get something else???


http://social.biowar...2564/2#13327189

You will get a rare card he says.

Modifié par Janpoll, 25 juillet 2012 - 05:55 .


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Looking forward to some epic Gold Matches with all N7 characters... like the trailer. If only we could get Anderson to pep talk us and have music Two Steps from Hell playing the the game too.

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The clock is cool!!

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jsherber85 wrote...

ok so chris clarified a little more but does it have to be reapers and does it have to be on a earth map thats all i need answered

wow.... srsly, DO YOU NOT READ THE PAGE THAT YOU ARE POSTING ON.

scroll a couple posts up :)

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DocDAM wrote...

For everyone:
According to http://blog.bioware.com/:
"Operation OVERWATCH (July 27th 10AM PDT – July 30th 5AM PDT) "
Also, note it now correctly aligns with Daylight Savings time i.e. PDT (they used to say "PST), thanks for the clarification!

Mostly to Chris:
First, I want to thank you profusely for your, and the Bioware team's, efforts with the game and these weekends.
But I'm afraid, as always, there will be a lot of Q's and suggestions ...  Here are mine :happy:

S1) If possible, align these 3 Op notices (there's one in "News and Announcements", "MP discussion" and the blog site.  They tend to get out of whack with each other.  Note only the Blog lists the times.
S2) I see you are answering each Q in a separate post.  It would really help to have the learnings from these included in the main post (otherwise you'll get the Q's again and again.  And many will still miss them)

I've now checked all your responses in the other thread, and I think I'm straight on them, if I may double check ...

1) Map doesn't have to be Earth (you can see how that would be confusing from the first sentence in the announcement.  Nice to give context, but it probably threw some off).
2) It doesn't have to be Reapers?  (again, the first sentence implies it does, but it also implied Earth)
2) Squad goal:
a) at least one member of squad has to be a new Earth DLC character
B) it doesn't have to be my character
c) that earth character doesn't have to survive
d) I don't have to survive.
e) it doesn't have to be against Reapers
So, the following is a success: I play a Krogan in Dagger, there is one N7 Destroyer.  Neither one of us is extracted, but another (say Asari Adept) does.  All four of us in that game get Squad goal commendations.  Correct?

3) Allied Goal:
Absolutely no restrictions (map, character, any difficulty level, enemy).  If one player extracts from the mission, it counts 1 to the 800K.  If 4 extract, it counts 4 to the 800K.  This one is hard to misread (except for Reaper vs. any ...I think) :happy:




thank you so much for clarifying this for me now i am ready to kill my enemies lets go ill be like a ninja with my n7 engineer:ph34r:

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poptdp wrote...

jsherber85 wrote...

ok so chris clarified a little more but does it have to be reapers and does it have to be on a earth map thats all i need answered

wow.... srsly, DO YOU NOT READ THE PAGE THAT YOU ARE POSTING ON.

scroll a couple posts up :)

for you info i was writting that down b4 the guy had posted what he did. thanx for the sarcasm:P

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zadarum wrote...

poptdp wrote...

OMG PEOPLE its so clear!!! but here let me make it even easier for you to follow:


Enemy: ANY

Map: ANY

Difficulty: ANY

Squad goal: at least ONE person on the team extracts, WHILE HAVING AN EARTH CHARACTER ON THE TEAM. it doesnt matter if its the earth character or a krogan that gets to extraction, as long as AT LEAST ONE DOES.

Allied goal: same as squad goal, except every extracted person counts towards the final goal. if you don't have an earth character on your team, it does not count any of them.


CLEAR?!?!?!?!?!?


Thanks, this is a very helpful breakdown - it's all anyone is asking for here.  It would be great if Bioware would adopt this format for explaining future missions - it would eliminate a lot of the confusion.


no problem. i agree, if they did a format like this, it would be less trouble for them, because less questions asked. but there is one thing still contradictory, in the main description, they did not mention anything in the allied goal about having an earth character on your team, but Chris "clarified" to someone i think 1 page back that u do need one...

they are making more questions through clarification [facepalm.jpg]

Modifié par poptdp, 25 juillet 2012 - 06:02 .


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Nice clock! We can all work out start & end times locally from that. Thanks.