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Soloing Platinum. (N7 Destroyer Full Video + Discussion)


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#26
shards7

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Oh yea.

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Sp3c7eR

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MasterReefa wrote...

Just finished the video, couldn't have cut it closer on the first objective going up that ladder? Haha


A necessary risk :P Pizza delivery on destroyer sucks, no matter how you try to go about it. And the spawn near the landing pad meant that if I kept killing the phantoms & ravagers, they'd re-spawn there yet again and cut off my route up the ladder.

I could've tried to maneuver the Atlas to a more favourable position but I was running out of time. So yeah, that was a bad objective... Could've saved a lot more time there if it was escort.

I was very lucky I didn't waste a medigel on wave 3.

Modifié par Sp3c7eR, 24 juillet 2012 - 10:28 .


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Swag.

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The fool you should have eaten

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Can you say bullet hose? That was beyond impressive. Especially how well you manuevered around the map and finished with a medigel left at the end too.

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Impressive.

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man.....
you have the typhoon at lvl X.....can't wait till i get mine level'd up

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The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Can you say bullet hose? That was beyond impressive. Especially how well you manuevered around the map and finished with a medigel left at the end too.


Thanks. Maneuvering was particularly difficult because of the way enemies spawn on platinum. The Gold & below mentality is: if I'm at that spot, enemies won't spawn there. On platinum you have to forget that and just have eyes everywhere cause the minute you're not looking somewhere, there's a hunter popping up behind you or a phantom slashing at you. It can be scary at times.

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Great job! Congrats.

I think this is little beyond my Female Quarian Engineer ;)

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wow.

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Pfft, wait till you try my 10 fps redjohnnium ;p

I kid, really impressive run, used the GPS like a boss, I enjoy you owning the phantoms! also jelly of your hardware

I wonder how you do so much damage with your typhoon tho, I used AP III, extend clip, extend barrel, rail amp III and still need one full clip to kill an atlas, I saw you still have some left when you finish an atlas.

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Voorhees88

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how was he specd

#37
shnig_1

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Psh, I Soloed bronze the other day, I don't see what the big deal is

#38
FlamboyantRoy

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Question.

If you could only pick between the Justicar and the Fury which would you solo Platinum with?

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Maka720

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I got Typhoon 3 times.

Didn't get the Destroyer once.

:(

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Morning Elf

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Very impressive. Watching now.
As a side note, Bioware really likes the visual overlays, don't they? :mellow: At least this one doesn't cause headaches.

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Morning Elf

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Do you take accuracy for Devastator mode? The Typhoon is obviously very powerful, but I've stopped trying to use it because I have trouble hitting things with it.

Edit: Ah ok, the build is at the end of the video, and you do take accuracy.

Modifié par Morning Elf, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:11 .


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sy7ar wrote...

I wonder how you do so much damage with your typhoon tho, I used AP III, extend clip, extend barrel, rail amp III and still need one full clip to kill an atlas, I saw you still have some left when you finish an atlas.


Warp ammo is the best ammo for the typhoon. Why? Because it does the most damage overall. I believe at level 3, AP is 30%, Warp is 35% extra damage. Now, some people might argue that AP is better against armor but not on the typhoon. This weapon has an innate 50% armor ignore built in feature. So the 60% that AP ammo provides, turns into a measly 10% when coupled with the typhoon because the ignore armor is capped at 60% in the game. So against armor, Warp ammo actually does more or the same damage than AP. Against shields & barriers, Warp is better due to the higher natural multiplier.


So only use AP ammo if you are intending to shoot through solid walls most of the time. The rest of the time use Warp.

I had to use Warp anyway because with other types of ammo GPS took 5 shots to kill phantoms instead of 3.

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Very entertaining video to watch, congrats!

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Nice job! I get a lot out of watching you vids, so thanks.

Just curious, was this before or after today's balance changes? If before, how do you think they would have affected your match?

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drakeSVK wrote...

Very entertaining video to watch, congrats!

 

Thanks you :wizard:

Shampoohorn wrote...

Nice job! I get a lot out of watching you vids, so thanks.

Just curious, was this before or after today's balance changes? If before, how do you think they would have affected your match?


I think it was before the damage changes. I don't rely on penetration distance for Typhoon, I mostly hug corners to avoid getting shot, but the reduction in today's balance changes will make AP ammo more useful on the weapon. As far as this run goes nothing would've been different.

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How is armor piercing capped at 60% if the mods give you 65%? Did we not get that last bit? As for actual stacking, I have seen people say that you can't stack Typhoon's innate AP (which is unique, no other weapon has it) with AR Piercing or AP ammo, but you could theoretically stack that mod and consumable to negate all armor DR right? In peddroelmz's damage formula thread his example showed adding a piercing mod with AP ammo (although it was below the 60% threshold).

I did a calculation a while ago for SP and of course you are right about Warp Ammo, at least on weapons that can do around 100dmg per shot or more (that was with SP max damage evolutions, not quite the same as consumables). You aren't getting better damage on shields with it though. Only bonus to Armor, Barrier, and Health.

In any event, is this the same build you use in team games? I am mainly curious about Headshots vs Power Damage. Do you think the headshot evolution is worthwhile compared to slightly more damage with grenades?

Modifié par capn233, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:22 .


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capn233 wrote...

How is armor piercing capped at 60% if the mods give you 65%? Did we not get that last bit? As for actual stacking, I have seen people say that you can't stack Typhoon's innate AP (which is unique, no other weapon has it) with AR Piercing or AP ammo, but you could theoretically stack that mod and consumable to negate all armor DR right? In peddroelmz's damage formula thread his example showed adding a piercing mod with AP ammo (although it was below the 60% threshold).


A quick re-post from reddit user exxtrooper:

"You've probably noticed the N7 Typhoon can penetrate cover and guardian shields by default (same penetration power as the Javelin) but another nice plus with the N7 Typhoon is that it also ignores 50% of enemy armor.Which means it actually has AP mod by default, and AP modifications doesn't stack, putting on AP ammo or AP mod will only give you 10% more armor piercing (as it already ignores 50%, and the highest amount is 60%, but only on the N7 Typhoon), putting on Extended Barrel instead of AP mod will actually result in more damage against armored targets (and normal targets of course), same with AP ammo and Warp ammo."

capn233 wrote... 
In any event, is this the same build you use in team games? I am mainly curious about Headshots vs Power Damage. Do you think the headshot evolution is worthwhile compared to slightly more damage with grenades?


Yeah, the build I run on teams is similar, maybe spec out of adrenaline and get cyclonic. Headshots & power damage are both useless. Maybe power damage less so, if you are using the typhoon. If you're using the piranha, headshot damage counts.

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VERY nicely done!

I just finished watching the whole video and I think the most useful thing I took away from it was your use of cover on Fire Base Giant. I definitely need more practice using that map in solo games because I'm a long way away from being that efficient with my firing lanes. Often times you had a needle-thread line of sight to the target which rendered them nearly unable to return fire, especially in the case of Atlases.

Much respect sir, and a well played game!

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 How are you Spected out?... Me want this Build

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Congrats! Excellent excellent gameplay, and full video is appreciated. It's not just an extraction wave in case of someone. I see now why Typhoon was nerfed.