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Soloing Platinum. (N7 Destroyer Full Video + Discussion)


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Chromatix wrote...

Sp3c7eR wrote...


Also, why do you think I've done it as a speed competition? 


Not that kind of speed. Paladin did it much faster, RJ and at least one more man not to be named did it before you, the, presumably, "best" player. 



As far as I know, there have been 2 Platinum solos recorded. A Krysae GI and a Reegar Krogan Vanguard. That's not impressive at all. Might as well use the rocket glitch.

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Chromatix wrote...

Sp3c7eR wrote...


Also, why do you think I've done it as a speed competition? 


Not that kind of speed. Paladin did it much faster, RJ and at least one more man not to be named did it before you, the, presumably, "best" player. 



So, hold on, let me get this right. Best player in your eyes = somebody who sits 24/7 on PC or console waiting for DLC to come out so they can solo it and post an achievement in a video game in order to retain their status?

I'm sorry to disappoint, I'm not the best player under those criteria :crying: And I wasn't going to settle for a cheap way to solo platinum either. No krysae, GI/battlemaster or reegar involved. So I did it now as my self-imposed challenge, it's been days after the DLC is out, but I'd like to think I did it with style. I've no claims to the title of best player, I play this game for fun & that's how it will remain. I play other games to compete, such as counter strike & battlefield 3. Hope that settles the issue for you in an acceptable way. B)

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Chromatix wrote...
Not that kind of speed. Paladin did it much faster, RJ and at least one more man not to be named did it before you, the, presumably, "best" player. 

I'm still waiting on the full video of Red John's run, but, as your own comments, that isn't neither here nor there, whatever's up with Stardusk and Red John is between them and I don't think you should be so abrasive towards Sp3c7eR because of some discussion two other people have/had going on.

Sp3c7eR, excellent work, definitely learned a lot from your vid, and thanks for not putting any music/voice-over, I like to hear the enemies' voices/telltales when watching YT runs so I can understand to what the player is reacting to.

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Sp3c7eR wrote...

Best player in your eyes = somebody who sits 24/7 on PC or console waiting for DLC to come out so they can solo it and post an achievement in a video game in order to retain their status?



So it took Paladin a one evening to do this, so he is 24\\7 player? Excuses, all you have are them. 


DarkLord_PT wrote...

Chromatix wrote...
Not that kind of speed. Paladin did it much faster, RJ and at least one more man not to be named did it before you, the, presumably, "best" player. 

I'm still waiting on the full video of Red John's run, but, as your own comments, that isn't neither here nor there


It's in progress. You may believe me. Or you may not, whatever.

Modifié par Chromatix, 25 juillet 2012 - 03:02 .


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Chromatix wrote...

It's in progress. You may believe me. Or you may not, whatever.


You can talk about RedJohn's platinum solo after his first full video. End of line.

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Damn, I want that typhoon X

Good run brah!

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i haven't made a single Destroyer character yet but from all the videos I've seen it seems very viable in platinum.

I might attempt this myself. :) good job!

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awsome job Sp3c7eR. Did hell of job and showing us the footage too. If only Red John did that I would of believed his play through also.

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Sp3c7eR wrote...

Warp ammo is the best ammo for the typhoon. Why? Because it does the most damage overall. I believe at level 3, AP is 30%, Warp is 35% extra damage. Now, some people might argue that AP is better against armor but not on the typhoon. This weapon has an innate 50% armor ignore built in feature. So the 60% that AP ammo provides, turns into a measly 10% when coupled with the typhoon because the ignore armor is capped at 60% in the game. So against armor, Warp ammo actually does more or the same damage than AP. Against shields & barriers, Warp is better due to the higher natural multiplier.


So only use AP ammo if you are intending to shoot through solid walls most of the time. The rest of the time use Warp.

I had to use Warp anyway because with other types of ammo GPS took 5 shots to kill phantoms instead of 3.


Great Video,  another vulgar display of power  ..

Ignore armor is not capped in ME3 . You can get it over 100% with AP ammo and AP weapon mod combination - and thus ignore armor DR.. (you get this effect from ap ammo and ap weapon mods ..it stacks)

Some weapons completly ignore armor DR innately (GPS, Graal , Kishok Harpoon) - relevant ammo powers(Warp, AP)  would still add damage vs armor with those weapons too ..

Armor weakeing is capped at 50% (at best it lowers gold 50 armor DR to 25 armor DR ) ... (you get this effect from warp ammo, cryo ammo , warp , .. - it doesn't stack from different sources ..)   

Have no information on Platium diff armor setting ... 
Have no information on Typhoon's X damage per shot ...Obviously if the damage per shot is low enough - armor weakening , ignoring or a combination of both would help a lot ...

You say Typhoon has 50% armor ignore innately ...( Which would mean it doesn't ignore armor completly and thus all this damage vs armor is discussion is relevant)  ...This is a quality that stacks in ME 3  (AP ammo has it, ap weapon mods have it .. and can go over 100% (without additional benefits past 100%) ,)

Without knowing Typhoon's damage per hit and Plantiums Armor DR amount (cannot install the last add-on - the game always shows me an empty add-ons list) I can't say for sure wich ammo type would do more damage vs armor ... So at this point I will say probably the same ...(no significant difference) ...

Where the Warp ammo wins over AP is of course the extra damage vs Barriers that helps tremendously vs 2 of the most annoying hard to kill insta killers in the game - Phantoms and Banshees ...

 

Modifié par peddroelmz, 25 juillet 2012 - 11:33 .


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peddroelmz wrote...

Where the Warp ammo wins over AP is of course the extra damage vs Barriers that helps tremendously vs 2 of the most annoying hard to kill insta killers in the game - Phantoms and Banshees ...

 


I think Warp ammo is most effective with weapons which have a low damage per shot, and AP ammo is more effective with weapons which have a high damage per shot.

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Great run - as always!

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Now solo it using only missile launcher.

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Mother of god. I can't recall if I've ever seen the GPS used as well as that.

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Sovereign24 wrote...

Mother of god. I can't recall if I've ever seen the GPS used as well as that.



Yeah, I had no idea GPS was that good against Phantoms...

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...

Now solo it using only missile launcher.


I'm considering trying to solo bronze like this.
It's probably gonna take a lot more time than 46 minutes.

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You...Are...IRONMAN

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JC_aka_fps_john wrote...

Sovereign24 wrote...

Mother of god. I can't recall if I've ever seen the GPS used as well as that.



Yeah, I had no idea GPS was that good against Phantoms...


Warp Ammo definitely helps

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Sp3c7eR wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

Sp3c7eR wrote...


Also, why do you think I've done it as a speed competition? 


Not that kind of speed. Paladin did it much faster, RJ and at least one more man not to be named did it before you, the, presumably, "best" player. 



So, hold on, let me get this right. Best player in your eyes = somebody who sits 24/7 on PC or console waiting for DLC to come out so they can solo it and post an achievement in a video game in order to retain their status?

I'm sorry to disappoint, I'm not the best player under those criteria :crying: And I wasn't going to settle for a cheap way to solo platinum either. No krysae, GI/battlemaster or reegar involved. So I did it now as my self-imposed challenge, it's been days after the DLC is out, but I'd like to think I did it with style. I've no claims to the title of best player, I play this game for fun & that's how it will remain. I play other games to compete, such as counter strike & battlefield 3. Hope that settles the issue for you in an acceptable way. B)


Was wondering how long you were going to hide from the fact that this is a competition or a kick in the pants to he who shall not be named. Glad to see you being real. Keep it up, pimps up, hos down.

Modifié par Kick In The Door, 25 juillet 2012 - 12:10 .


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OP did u do this run after the typhoon nerf or before it?

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peddroelmz wrote...

Sp3c7eR wrote...


Without knowing Typhoon's damage per hit and Plantiums Armor DR amount (cannot install the last add-on - the game always shows me an empty add-ons list) I can't say for sure wich ammo type would do more damage vs armor ... So at this point I will say probably the same ...(no significant difference) ...

 


Which add-on are you talking aout ? =) I didn't there was add-on for ME3

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I find Typhoon to be pretty accurate on it's own in the hands of destroyer. So why stability mod? Etended barrel is better i think :)

As for the video... not impressed. Anyone can do it with such weapons on this character. Through you were very lucky in some moments :) (like in delivery, where you climb on ladder, atlas decided to fire rocket, instead of his sniper cannon)

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Sp3c7eR wrote...

. I needed something that kills phantoms quickly. It was a choice between GPS & Reegar. I picked the one which was less cheap and required more skill to use, in my opinion.


Graal :P

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kr3g wrote...
Anyone can do it with such weapons on this character

:blink:

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Chromatix wrote...

Sp3c7eR wrote...

Best player in your eyes = somebody who sits 24/7 on PC or console waiting for DLC to come out so they can solo it and post an achievement in a video game in order to retain their status?



So it took Paladin a one evening to do this, so he is 247 player? Excuses, all you have are them. 


DarkLord_PT wrote...

Chromatix wrote...
Not that kind of speed. Paladin did it much faster, RJ and at least one more man not to be named did it before you, the, presumably, "best" player. 

I'm still waiting on the full video of Red John's run, but, as your own comments, that isn't neither here nor there


It's in progress. You may believe me. Or you may not, whatever.


where is your solo run?

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kr3g wrote...

I find Typhoon to be pretty accurate on it's own in the hands of destroyer. So why stability mod? Etended barrel is better i think :)

As for the video... not impressed. Anyone can do it with such weapons on this character. Through you were very lucky in some moments :) (like in delivery, where you climb on ladder, atlas decided to fire rocket, instead of his sniper cannon)


I am sure he , or anyone else who solos the hardest levels could care less whether you are impressed or not. They really only care about the opinions of thier peers.