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#101
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thegamefreek78648 wrote...

Shinter37 wrote...

thegamefreek78648 wrote...

Shinter37 wrote...

thegamefreek78648 wrote...

lastofthefive0s wrote...

You do realize that two of his three abilities are grenade based, right? So without said grenades, he's basically powerless. Yeah, how selfish of him wanting to be able to continue to support his team by being able to, you know, kill enemies.


You do realize that only one of his powers are effected by cool down, and even then not by much due to the fact that the supply pylon never goes away and enemies cant damage it so there is no reason that a Demolisher cant take a great weapon that suffers from low ammo reserves and rock the mobs hard?  Something like the Striker or Harrier?


Which assumes everyone has those weapons...


Alright, let me expand on the list so that I am likely to hit atleast 1 weapon that a Demolisher might have that they could make sing and I will even forgoe listing ultra rares.

Mattock
Falcon
Striker
Reegar
Piranha



Which assumes everyone likes using those weapons...  :P


Well... go play an adept then :P


Actually, I kind of like using my...um, grenades...

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There are a lot of pages, and I haven't read through them all, so I apologize if this has been posted.
I'm sure most Demolishers don't mind sharing, but please do remember that they benefit from increased weapon or power damage by standing within the radius of the pylon's distribution ray. This may also be part of the reason

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Shinter37 wrote...


Actually, I kind of like using my...um, grenades...


How dare you use your grenades with a grenade using class.

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I was playing a FBWGG as a Demolisher. I have put my Pylon and then walked around. When I returned to my Pylon I found a MQI covered near my Pylon. He took all of the grenades for himself with my pylon, and all the times i used the power in other places, I always found him in the center of the Pylon's Area D: Tell me why he deserved MY grenades and not me.

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fatmancory wrote...

Shinter37 wrote...


Actually, I kind of like using my...um, grenades...


How dare you use your grenades with a grenade using class.


Someone should make a thread about how selfish players like Shinter are.

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I don't mind them being "selfish" (techinally it's their pylon) but I mind them being selfish AND hogging grenades from the ammo crates too. Leave some for the rest of us. >.>

This whole thing has made me very weary of even trying the demolisher I unlocked recently. I'm not sure how I will react to people trolling the pylon or not. Heck, I'll just stay away from demolishers and their pylons all together. 8D

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gabry96 wrote...

I was playing a FBWGG as a Demolisher. I have put my Pylon and then walked around. When I returned to my Pylon I found a MQI covered near my Pylon. He took all of the grenades for himself with my pylon, and all the times i used the power in other places, I always found him in the center of the Pylon's Area D: Tell me why he deserved MY grenades and not me.


See, this Is ok, You were gone from it after all, I do belive there can only be set of grenades out at once, so I see no problem with people using it when your gone.

Modifié par fatmancory, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:23 .


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TC: Those Demolishers are so goddamn selfish, using their Pylon to feed their Grenade-only abilities when those Pylons should be for ME and MY grenades because I need them more. MY grenades are more important! God, they're so selfish!

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When I double everyone elses score by spamming grenades non stop with grenade gear 5, you will thank me in a Platinum game.

He isnt really a support class IMO, he is a grenade all the things build and dominate the game build

Modifié par brit316, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:27 .


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I don't really bother resupplying at the pylon. If there's one set up, I'll run by provided it's on the way to wherever I'm going otherwise I just stop at the crates. I guess it's not as big a deal for me since I'm usually a QFE and don't have grenades.

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HinDae wrote...

These guys are a real problem.

Every time I spot one in the lobby, I switch in Krogan soldier for his Inferno grenades to help with tech bursts (If it can, I never notice) and to provide consistent fire damage against the myriad or armoured opponents.

But then, I spot said demolisher set up his/her Pylon and sit RIGHT ON TOP OF IT, soaking up all grenades as it spits them out.

This is pretty sad IMO, to me the Demolisher is a classic support character, and yet he absolutely NEEDS every grenade it throws out?

Anyone else have problems with Selfish Demolishers?


Hi, since the ONLY DPS abilities Demos have are their grenades, why are you even TRYING to take their pylon's output? Go grab grenades from the ammo boxes and stop being lazy.

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"I know you can get grenades from ammo boxes, but I shouldn't have to do that, the Demolisher should."

"I know you can refill your grenades with Thermal Clips, but I shouldn't have to do that, the Demolisher should."

"I know the Demolisher can make better use of grenades than I can, but I want to be in first place."

"I know it's most efficient if the Demolisher sits on the Pylon and replaces it as soon as he can, but I want to make everything inefficient by demanding he give it to me."

"I know it's his class to play, but me me ME ME ME I DEFINE HOW A class SHOULD BE PLAYED EVEN THOUGH I'M DEMANDING INEFFICIENCY."

The thought process of everyone who thinks their team mate's Pylon belongs to them.

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fatmancory wrote...

gabry96 wrote...

I was playing a FBWGG as a Demolisher. I have put my Pylon and then walked around. When I returned to my Pylon I found a MQI covered near my Pylon. He took all of the grenades for himself with my pylon, and all the times i used the power in other places, I always found him in the center of the Pylon's Area D: Tell me why he deserved MY grenades and not me.


See, this Is ok, You were gone from it after all, I do belive there can only be set of grenades out at once, so I see no problem with people using it when your gone.

When I'm Gone, yes, but when I returned he didn't moved. Like I said, when I moved the Pylon he moved too on its  "grenade area", so he didn't take my grenades when I was gone, but he took them all for himself for all the match.  I'm not a "selfish demolisher", but do you think it is right that a person takes ALL of MY grenades instead of share them with the others? 

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The funniest thing about this thread is every game I've been in with multiple Demos is an in-game live reinactment of Arts and Crafts time in public school. No drama, no whining, no demands or expectations what so ever. We're all sitting peacefully in our own little corner of the map or camping spot the team is roasting marshmellows on in perfect harmony. We never fight over each others grenade stash, prioritize revives almost instinctively and when a hack occurs we pair them up to form a Super Pylon of Voltron proportions.

Then when it's all said and done we high five and exchange contact information for Brunch that coming Sunday. We're too civilized bro. Truly.

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L.ast L.ife wrote...

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These posts are probably the stupidest things on the forums. I hate how everyone thinks Demolishers are only good as support characters and are therefore obligated to share their Supply Pylon with others. If someone wants to play a purely offensive, grenadier-type character let them. Stop stereotyping characters please!


"But, but, but... the ammo box is so faaaaaaaaarrrr... and I'm just as selfis- er... team oriented as them!"

:crying:


Are you being serious? That comment was kinda dripping in sarcasm...

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If I ever find myself in a PUG with you, I'm going to pick the Demolisher, lay down a pylon, then wait somewhere nearby.

When I see you approach the pylon, I will lay down a new one, causing the old one to explode.

I will repeat this for the entire game, audibly laughing at you via mic the entire time.

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Sharing is caring, guys.

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L.ast L.ife wrote...
...when a hack occurs we pair them up to form a Super Pylon of Voltron proportions.


I want to see this.

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When you sit on my pylon and spam your weaker grenades preventing me from resupplying my own, only to follow me to another spot when I move the pylon so I can restock my grenades, who exactly is being the selfish one?

My Demolisher is specced for grenade damage and armor debuff, so I think it's more important that I have a steady supply of grenades. I'm sorry if this somehow offends you that I don't want to feed you grenades despite you having other powers that don't rely on a limited supply, how dare I be so cruel.

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L.ast L.ife wrote...

The funniest thing about this thread is every game I've been in with multiple Demos is an in-game live reinactment of Arts and Crafts time in public school. No drama, no whining, no demands or expectations what so ever. We're all sitting peacefully in our own little corner of the map or camping spot the team is roasting marshmellows on in perfect harmony. We never fight over each others grenade stash, prioritize revives almost instinctively and when a hack occurs we pair them up to form a Super Pylon of Voltron proportions.

Then when it's all said and done we high five and exchange contact information for Brunch that coming Sunday. We're too civilized bro. Truly.


Ahh, you must be Mormon.  I hear only Mormons are this nice.  I applaud you, good sir.

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 Nerf demolishers.

We don't get enough things from them since they're selfish hogs. Nerf them to ruin their personal experience.

Oh yes, there are selfish demolishers. Yep. What's to be done about this? We're here for a solution right?

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You know, they could make it so every two drops a extra grenade comes out that the demo cant take. This would solve the no sharing problem.

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stysiaq wrote...

Asebstos wrote...

L.ast L.ife wrote...


If only there was a convenient consumable that immediately replaced all expended ammo and grenades that everyone can't seem to stop getting from every pack in the RNG store.

Oh wait...

Note to Demolishers: You also have Thermal Packs and yours generally provide way more grenades than anyone elses. Get that pylon out of your butt.


Am I the only Demolisher here who doesn't run out of her grenades easily? That's why I have 11 of them anyway. When the rare situation comes, I remember that I carry 55 spare grenades each round. It's like infinity of grenades in this game.


I've played with people that have gernade capacity+5 gear, and I still end up fighting for gernades from ammo dumps because they burn through all ten of theirs in five seconds flat.

I rarely use this class, but when I do use it, I dont even use the grenades because I know other people are...dependent on them. I stick to hiding behind cover and mowing enemies from afar with my Kresea and Typhoon...at least I use to. 

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fatmancory wrote...

You know, they could make it so every two drops a extra grenade comes out that the demo cant take. This would solve the no sharing problem.

Stopping a demo from using her own pylon to the full extent? That won't work very well. Too complicated a solution for a problem that doesn't need to be solved.

If the player is selfish, then they're not going to share grenades. That's just an aspect of playing with other people with different ideas. No need to force-feed it into the game.

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Demolishers hogging their own grenades isn't selfish, considering those grenades are critical to their effectiveness. All it means is that they will be using the pylon, so all the grenades in the ammo boxes on the map are there for you to monopolize :P