262 réponses à ce sujet

[sobbos]

Inject- wrote...

sobbos wrote...

Inject- wrote...

sobbos wrote...

Inject- wrote...

sobbos wrote...

Inject- wrote...

Have you seen me with a Widow X? I make it dance, so this thread is pointless.

Use a Widow on platinum and you will not be 'helping' the team unless they are worse than you.

I use my Widow X on platinum and I do just fine. The above statement is a sack of horse sh!t.

So you do PUG, thanks for clarifying 

Sorry I'm better at using a weapon then you are. Let alone most people. I'm the only person I know who uses a Widow which is a 10/X. And I'm still top of the scoreboard every game I play just about. Not to mention I don't play with randoms often. 

It saddens me that people like you exist. "I can't use this weapon correctly so It sucks." Everyone has their weapon proficentys, and mine is Snipers. :innocent:

lol, clearly you don't know who I am. Anyone can be good at sniping in this game because of how over the top easy it is. I play for efficiency and fun, meaning I play to finish a game as fast and clean as possible while having fun. The widow slows down the efficiency of a platinum match because it's a one shot weapon. How fast do you get extraction in platinum? How often are you the one spawn killing waves of enemies?

Scoreboard doesn't mean a thing when you speed run matches.

You want to speed run? Cool with me, I play to enjoy myself. I don't try to get done as fast as I can, I try to keep my team alive and I try my best to support them.

Completeing the mission is top priority. Yeah it's nice when you complete It fast, But all I care about IS Completeing it.

Fair enough. I was just simply trying to make the point that using a different weapon would better help your team when it comes to shooting more enemies faster.

Seems you don't mind how long it takes, which is pretty much 'to each their own'. It also seems like you're a good player, so keep enjoying your self 

[ASmoothCriminalx]

ShadowRanger88 wrote...

Yep that's true. Since they removed headshot bonuses, kishock is terribad agaisnt bosses.

I've outscored a level X harrier with the Kishock. The user of the harrier is a good player and a friend. Incendiary ammo and the kishock bleedout are nothing to scoff at.

I regard most of these threads about things being useless as the players being... unpracticed - to put it nicely.

[Virazhides]

Shadow Strike too risky? I disagree - cloak out of sight/in cover and they won't turn around.

[Atheosis]

To be fair, the Krysae is a sniper rifle in name only. That said, yes sniper rifles are garbage right now. And who knows when BW will address the issue. I mean the GPR has needed massives buffs for months and yet it remains crap week after week after week.

[ShadowRanger88]

deliciousmoothies wrote...

prog_bassist wrote...

deliciousmoothies wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...

ted striker33 wrote...

The Saber is the new best sniper rifle

The Paladin and Scoped Talon have been the best for a long time.

----> That is not a sniper rifle! It is a assault rifle! Dummy...

Totally missed the mark.

And for the record, the Claymore is the best sniper rifle.

---> How did I miss the mark, smart mouth? Explain...

Sarcasm...lol

[Jebel Krong]

sniping definitely takes more skill, with the single-shot rifles at least. I run a widox X with my SI and even shadow yesterday and ruled pkatinum with a full extraction to boot. Can be done just infuriating sometimes. Btw finish off a prime and you get the beheading animation - makes me miss the head-shot one even more...

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:11 .

[Arcadia2012]

Sinapus wrote...

deliciousmoothies wrote...

CaptainTeabag wrote...

Krysae - damage nerfed TWICE, Rate of fire decreased, Recoil Increased, Zoom Recoil Increased, Total ammo capacity dropped. (In other words this gun is now a slow firing low damage useless piece of dren.

----> How is the Krysae Sniper Rifle useless? Have you played with it? because honestly, after reading what you said about it, looks like you don't know how to use it!

I wouldn't call it "useless" in my case. More "not what I usually want to do with a sniper rifle" so I'm not going to really use it even if I unlocked it over the weekend and tried it a few times.

The Krysae was nearly useless before, now it's plain useless. What's worse, it's not even a sniper rifle. More like a mixture of Striker and Falcon, and those aren't Assault rifles either. I'm just glad i got the Valiant, but i'm 100% sure that weapon will be nerfed and ruined as well before long.

[ShadowRanger88]

ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

ShadowRanger88 wrote...

Yep that's true. Since they removed headshot bonuses, kishock is terribad agaisnt bosses.

I've outscored a level X harrier with the Kishock. The user of the harrier is a good player and a friend. Incendiary ammo and the kishock bleedout are nothing to scoff at.

I regard most of these threads about things being useless as the players being... unpracticed - to put it nicely.

Thats true. But would you agree the harrier is more efficient boss wise?

I'm not a great player with the kishock but I think it's much better agaisnt weaker units where it can outright oneshot them, even the ones with shields.

[Virginian]

bob2.0 wrote...

Wordlywisewiz wrote...

Its still the point in ALL games HEADSHOTS 1 hit kill! Shield gate is boring and no fun to play with.
This game should have been like call of duty zombies. More enemies of the weaker type rushing you

Primes should also take headshot damage but the head should be covered by 2-3 armored plates that need to be knocked off with a power with enough force (calling for team work)

You're the type of person that would build a combat robot and then put the central processing unit in the head part, instead of the heavily armored torso.

Aren't you?

I wouldn't even make a head.

[A Wild Snorlax]

Snipers are pretty **** now. No reason to take them over shotguns whatsoever, or even a harrier.

Anyone saying otherwise are either playing on low difficulties or having bad clear times on gold and above. On gold sniping is managable, allthough you are gimping yourself as an infiltrator, on platinum it's a complete joke and waste of time.

ALso inb4  the  standar hurr durr you are doing it wrong  retard arguments from the bad kids.

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:24 .

[samg8]

Salarian Infiltrator with valiant IV!

[Mash3d]

I'm getting tired of saying this.

Krysae: even with the recent nerf, this thing can reliably put sh*t-tons of damage downrange, WITH STAGGER, and a massive AoE, made even better with ammo powers and Infiltrator bonuses. Hell, you hardly need to aim this thing. All around good.

Valiant: arguably the best sniper rifle in the game, has a 3shot clip, which makes shield gate redundant. All around good.

Black Widow: the other "best sniper rifle in the game". Its like a Suped-up Valiant. Again, shield gate is redundant. All around good.

Mantis: Low weight, good for casters. Shield gate hinders it on higher difficulties, but thats what tech/biotic powers are for. Anti-infantry.

Widow: Best gun is ME2, still one of my personal favorites. Innate armor peircing makes up for shield-gating. On an infiltrator, can still do a sh*t-ton of damage, even with headshot removal on bosses. Tank-buster.

Raptor: Acceptable. Ignores shield gate due to having a large clip. Questionable on higher levels, but excelent in steady hands. Easy to get constant headshots with. Anti-infantry.

Indra: Technically an assault rifle. Shield gate ignored. Good for constant headshots. Kind of like the Raptor without the carpal tunnel. Anti-infantry.


All of these are perfectly good sniper rifles that I have succeeded with in Gold and witnessed succeeding on Platinum. Just because infitrator and a few of the sniper rifles have taken nerfs, it doesnt mean they are "useless". The only weapons that need help are the Javelin, Incisor, and Kishock. If you are having a difficult time using Infiltrators after changes, then you need to adapt your playstyle. Infiltrator is still my favorite class to play as, and if anything, I've become a much better player.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

ShadowRanger88 wrote...

ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

ShadowRanger88 wrote...

Yep that's true. Since they removed headshot bonuses, kishock is terribad agaisnt bosses.

I've outscored a level X harrier with the Kishock. The user of the harrier is a good player and a friend. Incendiary ammo and the kishock bleedout are nothing to scoff at.

I regard most of these threads about things being useless as the players being... unpracticed - to put it nicely.

Thats true. But would you agree the harrier is more efficient boss wise?

I'm not a great player with the kishock but I think it's much better agaisnt weaker units where it can outright oneshot them, even the ones with shields.

Yea I would agree. The harrier is definitely easier and way more forgiving. Miss a few shots with the kishock or any sniper and that could add up to 30 seconds per round where you were basically just standing around. The point I'm trying to make is that it can be done. Sniping has always been that way, at least for me. High risk because a missed shot is detrimental to dps and high reward for good damage on the shots that connect; only now the reward doesn't stand out as much from other weapons.

[Elite3141]

Inject- wrote...
You want to speed run? Cool with me, I play to enjoy myself. I don't try to get done as fast as I can, I try to keep my team alive and I try my best to support them.

Completeing the mission is top priority. Yeah it's nice when you complete It fast, But all I care about IS Completeing it.

His point still stands.  Single-shot sniper rifles are incredibly underwhelming on Gold and Platinum compared to other sniper rifles like the Black Widow and Valiant.  The amount of fun you have with them is irrelevant; semi-automatic sniper rifles outperform single-shot sniper rifles in every circumstance.

Modifié par Elite3141, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:29 .

[A Wild Snorlax]

Mash3d wrote...

I'm getting tired of saying this.

Krysae: even with the recent nerf, this thing can reliably put sh*t-tons of damage downrange, WITH STAGGER, and a massive AoE, made even better with ammo powers and Infiltrator bonuses. Hell, you hardly need to aim this thing. All around good.

Valiant: arguably the best sniper rifle in the game, has a 3shot clip, which makes shield gate redundant. All around good.

Black Widow: the other "best sniper rifle in the game". Its like a Suped-up Valiant. Again, shield gate is redundant. All around good.

Mantis: Low weight, good for casters. Shield gate hinders it on higher difficulties, but thats what tech/biotic powers are for. Anti-infantry.

Widow: Best gun is ME2, still one of my personal favorites. Innate armor peircing makes up for shield-gating. On an infiltrator, can still do a sh*t-ton of damage, even with headshot removal on bosses. Tank-buster.

Raptor: Acceptable. Ignores shield gate due to having a large clip. Questionable on higher levels, but excelent in steady hands. Easy to get constant headshots with. Anti-infantry.

Indra: Technically an assault rifle. Shield gate ignored. Good for constant headshots. Kind of like the Raptor without the carpal tunnel. Anti-infantry.


All of these are perfectly good sniper rifles that I have succeeded with in Gold and witnessed succeeding on Platinum. Just because infitrator and a few of the sniper rifles have taken nerfs, it doesnt mean they are "useless". The only weapons that need help are the Javelin, Incisor, and Kishock. If you are having a difficult time using Infiltrators after changes, then you need to adapt your playstyle. Infiltrator is still my favorite class to play as, and if anything, I've become a much better player.

All of the semi auto snipers are only good against grunts, they do crap damage against armor compared to shotguns and the harrier. Shotguns are also more effective at killing grunts.

The single shot ones are ineffective against troopers because of shield gate and their one shot only, against armor they do mediocre damage compared to shotguns and the harrier, even with lots of equipment on.

Overall the snipers are crap. Sure you can use them and beat gold with them, even platinum if you are somewhat decent. But you are gimping yourself and slowing down your clear times by a lot. Claymore, piranha, GPS, reegar, hell even the wraith, talon and harrier on infiltrators all make the snipers look like joke weapons in comparison.

To add insult to injury snipers are only decent on infiltrators, on normal classes they are terrible choices, whereas shotguns are good on every class.

Non krysae snipers need major buffs.

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:34 .

[Inject-]

Elite3141 wrote...

Inject- wrote...
You want to speed run? Cool with me, I play to enjoy myself. I don't try to get done as fast as I can, I try to keep my team alive and I try my best to support them.

Completeing the mission is top priority. Yeah it's nice when you complete It fast, But all I care about IS Completeing it.

His point still stands.  Single-shot sniper rifles are incredibly underwhelming on Gold and Platinum compared to other sniper rifles like the Black Widow and Valiant.  The amount of fun you have with them is irrelevant; semi-automatic sniper rifles outperform single-shot sniper rifles in every circumstance.

Yet I can outsnipe a Black Widow canceling my reload animation. Don't get me wrong, the moment I get a Black Widow X I will switch to that. But until then I will use my Widow X. It's been my Baby ever since the Demo.

Modifié par Inject-, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:35 .

[JayCally80]

I still love the Krysae even with these downgrades. Like the ability to have the round blow up when near an enemy. Great way to get them out of cover. Just finished a gold match and notice how weaker it is now. Wish BW would stop nerfing s**t and just add more enemys.

[A Wild Snorlax]

Inject- wrote...

sobbos wrote...

Inject- wrote...

Have you seen me with a Widow X? I make it dance, so this thread is pointless.

Use a Widow on platinum and you will not be 'helping' the team unless they are worse than you.

I use my Widow X on platinum and I do just fine. The above statement is a sack of horse sh!t.

You must be playing with **** players and have terrible clear times then.

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 24 juillet 2012 - 11:36 .

[Inject-]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Inject- wrote...

sobbos wrote...

Inject- wrote...

Have you seen me with a Widow X? I make it dance, so this thread is pointless.

Use a Widow on platinum and you will not be 'helping' the team unless they are worse than you.

I use my Widow X on platinum and I do just fine. The above statement is a sack of horse sh!t.

You must be playing with **** players and have terrible clear times then.

Just did another Platinum Run with my Widow X and Friends. 22 Min Clear Time. Your statement is Invalid.

[Emissary of the Collectors]

i used to kill Primes in 3 shots on Silver with a widow...threw that gun out when they removed headshot damage from it

[Silkerin]

I really dont see the problem with snipers bypassing shieldgate... they should bypass it a bit, like 25% of the rest of the damage or less.

The Idea to use the sniper to support the team is nice, maybe it is just me,  but I usually only play with randoms, and I just cant get to trust them. I had to change the sniper I would normaly use to the Viper so that I can have more shots before reloading, since I cant have anyone to finish the kill relliably or just to watch my back.

Yeah, if you use a powerful sniper and reload cancel it, it can work very well, but for some reason it still makes me feel insecure when I am playing with randoms.

still, saying they are useless is a bit much, but reload cancel shouldnt be a necessary mechanic to make snipers work well with shielded enemies. Why not just add a small % of the rest of the damage to byspass the shieldgate? Make it so It will never kill a enemy with one shot, something like the damage cap at a certain value, just so when you snipe a shielded enemy you can get some feeling of progression when you have to run away so that you arent rushed by other enemies, and the shot you took at that enemy wasnt in vain when the enemy just get his shields back after that.

oh well... that is just me...

[UserUnknown85]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Mash3d wrote...

I'm getting tired of saying this.

Krysae: even with the recent nerf, this thing can reliably put sh*t-tons of damage downrange, WITH STAGGER, and a massive AoE, made even better with ammo powers and Infiltrator bonuses. Hell, you hardly need to aim this thing. All around good.

Valiant: arguably the best sniper rifle in the game, has a 3shot clip, which makes shield gate redundant. All around good.

Black Widow: the other "best sniper rifle in the game". Its like a Suped-up Valiant. Again, shield gate is redundant. All around good.

Mantis: Low weight, good for casters. Shield gate hinders it on higher difficulties, but thats what tech/biotic powers are for. Anti-infantry.

Widow: Best gun is ME2, still one of my personal favorites. Innate armor peircing makes up for shield-gating. On an infiltrator, can still do a sh*t-ton of damage, even with headshot removal on bosses. Tank-buster.

Raptor: Acceptable. Ignores shield gate due to having a large clip. Questionable on higher levels, but excelent in steady hands. Easy to get constant headshots with. Anti-infantry.

Indra: Technically an assault rifle. Shield gate ignored. Good for constant headshots. Kind of like the Raptor without the carpal tunnel. Anti-infantry.


All of these are perfectly good sniper rifles that I have succeeded with in Gold and witnessed succeeding on Platinum. Just because infitrator and a few of the sniper rifles have taken nerfs, it doesnt mean they are "useless". The only weapons that need help are the Javelin, Incisor, and Kishock. If you are having a difficult time using Infiltrators after changes, then you need to adapt your playstyle. Infiltrator is still my favorite class to play as, and if anything, I've become a much better player.

All of the semi auto snipers are only good against grunts, they do crap damage against armor compared to shotguns and the harrier. Shotguns are also more effective at killing grunts.

The single shot ones are ineffective against troopers because of shield gate and their one shot only, against armor they do mediocre damage compared to shotguns and the harrier, even with lots of equipment on.

Overall the snipers are crap. Sure you can use them and beat gold with them, even platinum if you are somewhat decent. But you are gimping yourself and slowing down your clear times by a lot. Claymore, piranha, GPS, reegar, hell even the wraith, talon and harrier on infiltrators all make the snipers look like joke weapons in comparison.

To add insult to injury snipers are only decent on infiltrators, on normal classes they are terrible choices, whereas shotguns are good on every class.

Non krysae snipers need major buffs.

Well put. Except now, ALL snipers need buffs. The krysae isn't special anymore...

[Xaijin]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

Javelin - shield gate penetration REMOVED

Kishock Harpoon Gun - shield gate penetration REMOVED

Krysae - damage nerfed TWICE, Rate of fire decreased, Recoil Increased, Zoom Recoil Increased, Total ammo capacity dropped. (In other words this gun is now a slow firing low damage useless piece of dren.

All Sniper Rifles - no longer get headshot bonus on bosses.

All Sniper Rifles - cannot penetrate shield gate.


Add this to the nerfs they gave to Infiltrator

Tactical Cloak - 90% of enemies see through this and 'look behind the curtain' to detect where u are.

Tactical Cloak - base cloaking decreased to 4 seconds!

Tactical Cloak - Evolution 6 Sniper Rifle Bonus Damage decreased by 15%

Shadow Strike - To risky to use in Gold or Platinum because enemies murder you during your strike animation (even when you cloak from cover before you use SS - even if you have TC evolution 6 'one free power use.'



You have successfully ruined an entire class, Bioware.

Yet infiltrators still dominate platinum with ease. Post proof or retract.