perera74 wrote...
I think they cater more for the loud minority, i.e. the PC players. Well yes, I mean, if we all had a mouse and keyboard we'd have skillz too.
That said, I've seen vids where a PC player take seconds to line up a head shot. With a mouse. Slow Bro. I actually think the consolers are better players pound for pound - I wish I had a 2 to 3 second gate to get my millions of headshots.
well where can they make you aim if making you aim where you were already looking is an "easy button?"budzai wrote...
perera74 wrote...
I think they cater more for the loud minority, i.e. the PC players. Well yes, I mean, if we all had a mouse and keyboard we'd have skillz too.
That said, I've seen vids where a PC player take seconds to line up a head shot. With a mouse. Slow Bro. I actually think the consolers are better players pound for pound - I wish I had a 2 to 3 second gate to get my millions of headshots.
oh yes sniping with aim assist is ****ing hard...
megabeast37215 wrote...
I personally think videos of 12 minute platinum speedruns, platinum solos, platinum with stupid weapons like Avengers, etc. have alot to do with it. No offense intended to the folks that made those videos... you're skills are to be admired (except GI Krysae users... they are to be spat upon). Just imagine yourself as a Bioware developer... you make a difficulty that is supposed to be super hard... to the point that you yourself cannot fathom players being able to solo it... then, Bahroo, RedJohn and Godless Paladin solo it on day 1... post videos, etc. It's almost a slap in the face to the efforts of the devs... and they want to make it so that people can't do those things... and I have no problem with that. There should be a mode that is unable to solo... even for the elite of the elite.
megabeast37215 wrote...
I personally think videos of 12 minute platinum speedruns, platinum solos, platinum with stupid weapons like Avengers, etc. have alot to do with it. No offense intended to the folks that made those videos... you're skills are to be admired (except GI Krysae users... they are to be spat upon). Just imagine yourself as a Bioware developer... you make a difficulty that is supposed to be super hard... to the point that you yourself cannot fathom players being able to solo it... then, Bahroo, RedJohn and Godless Paladin solo it on day 1... post videos, etc. It's almost a slap in the face to the efforts of the devs... and they want to make it so that people can't do those things... and I have no problem with that. There should be a mode that is unable to solo... even for the elite of the elite.
That wouldn't make it harder. It would be tedious.Perkocet13 wrote...
megabeast37215 wrote...
I personally think videos of 12 minute platinum speedruns, platinum solos, platinum with stupid weapons like Avengers, etc. have alot to do with it. No offense intended to the folks that made those videos... you're skills are to be admired (except GI Krysae users... they are to be spat upon). Just imagine yourself as a Bioware developer... you make a difficulty that is supposed to be super hard... to the point that you yourself cannot fathom players being able to solo it... then, Bahroo, RedJohn and Godless Paladin solo it on day 1... post videos, etc. It's almost a slap in the face to the efforts of the devs... and they want to make it so that people can't do those things... and I have no problem with that. There should be a mode that is unable to solo... even for the elite of the elite.
simple, have 11 waves of nothing but banshies, primes and atlas's
Suko Reia wrote...
THE ANSWER...
Play bronze
=)
Good day =)
Modifié par TrveOmegaSlayer, 25 juillet 2012 - 12:29 .
TrveOmegaSlayer wrote...
@Suko
THE ANSWER...
Log out of the game and strike your genitalia
=)
Good day =)
budzai wrote...
perera74 wrote...
I think they cater more for the loud minority, i.e. the PC players. Well yes, I mean, if we all had a mouse and keyboard we'd have skillz too.
That said, I've seen vids where a PC player take seconds to line up a head shot. With a mouse. Slow Bro. I actually think the consolers are better players pound for pound - I wish I had a 2 to 3 second gate to get my millions of headshots.
oh yes sniping with aim assist is ****ing hard...
A better one would be to have nothing but maruaders, cerbie troopers, rocket troopers, hunters and phantomsJay_Hoxtatron wrote...
That wouldn't make it harder. It would be tedious.Perkocet13 wrote...
megabeast37215 wrote...
I personally think videos of 12 minute platinum speedruns, platinum solos, platinum with stupid weapons like Avengers, etc. have alot to do with it. No offense intended to the folks that made those videos... you're skills are to be admired (except GI Krysae users... they are to be spat upon). Just imagine yourself as a Bioware developer... you make a difficulty that is supposed to be super hard... to the point that you yourself cannot fathom players being able to solo it... then, Bahroo, RedJohn and Godless Paladin solo it on day 1... post videos, etc. It's almost a slap in the face to the efforts of the devs... and they want to make it so that people can't do those things... and I have no problem with that. There should be a mode that is unable to solo... even for the elite of the elite.
simple, have 11 waves of nothing but banshies, primes and atlas's
Modifié par Computron2000, 25 juillet 2012 - 12:56 .
perera74 wrote...
budzai wrote...
perera74 wrote...
I think they cater more for the loud minority, i.e. the PC players. Well yes, I mean, if we all had a mouse and keyboard we'd have skillz too.
That said, I've seen vids where a PC player take seconds to line up a head shot. With a mouse. Slow Bro. I actually think the consolers are better players pound for pound - I wish I had a 2 to 3 second gate to get my millions of headshots.
oh yes sniping with aim assist is ****ing hard...
Ha. I thought I'd catch a fish. I have never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever had the aim assist actually assist me. In fact as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't exist.
budzai wrote...
perera74 wrote...
budzai wrote...
perera74 wrote...
I think they cater more for the loud minority, i.e. the PC players. Well yes, I mean, if we all had a mouse and keyboard we'd have skillz too.
That said, I've seen vids where a PC player take seconds to line up a head shot. With a mouse. Slow Bro. I actually think the consolers are better players pound for pound - I wish I had a 2 to 3 second gate to get my millions of headshots.
oh yes sniping with aim assist is ****ing hard...
Ha. I thought I'd catch a fish. I have never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever had the aim assist actually assist me. In fact as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't exist.
yak yak yak... who easily snipers give headshots and quickscoping on xbox is ridiculous
Fly064 wrote...
As a buisness man I'd do the same. It's actually like a free mmorpg
First of let the players spend credits and hopefully bioware points on gaining most of the equipment.
As soon as your statistics show that a certain percentage of players has most of the available equpment bring out a new DLC and wait until a certain percentage has optained eveything, then bring the next DLC and so on. with each DLC the chance of people buying bioware points instead of spending their time earing credits increases. This principle works really well even in other areas of buisness.
Evidence would be that the dlc's contain powerful weapons which power gets decreased as soon as the next dlc is out . Making it important for people to actually get every new gear from the new dlc
It feels a lot like an idea of EA instead of bioware...
If i were to look at it with the eyes of an innocent I'd say...
Different kinds of difficultys increase the fun, if the game is too easy you'll lose interest.
Fly064 wrote...
As a buisness man I'd do the same. It's actually like a free mmorpg
First of let the players spend credits and hopefully bioware points on gaining most of the equipment.
As soon as your statistics show that a certain percentage of players has most of the available equpment bring out a new DLC and wait until a certain percentage has optained eveything, then bring the next DLC and so on. with each DLC the chance of people buying bioware points instead of spending their time earing credits increases. This principle works really well even in other areas of buisness.
Evidence would be that the dlc's contain powerful weapons which power gets decreased as soon as the next dlc is out . Making it important for people to actually get every new gear from the new dlc
It feels a lot like an idea of EA instead of bioware...
If i were to look at it with the eyes of an innocent I'd say...
Different kinds of difficultys increase the fun, if the game is too easy you'll lose interest.
Modifié par perera74, 25 juillet 2012 - 01:13 .
The Mad Hanar wrote...
The last 2-3 balance changes have been aimed at making players weaker and enemies stronger. With the exception of buffs to about 3 or 4 weapons.
If you are good enough at this game to want more of a challenge, good for you. I understand that, but you also have to understand us less skilled players plight....
It is NOT fun to die and lose constantly.
It is NOT fun to only have a limited selection of guns to choose from because of the difficulty level we have to play on. Then having only about half of those weapons at an effective level on higher difficulties.
It is NOT fun to have your oppenents to seemingly impossible stuff. Such as shooting while staggering or having a barrier that blocks grenades.
I'm just saying. It seems more and more like the people at Bioware are catering to players of an extremely high skill level. I like to think of myself as an above average player and I still get creamed in Gold PuGs. I breeze through Silver like nothing, I should at least be competitive on Gold.
TL;DR: Just some Q_Q from a frustrated player.
Waiting for you mad bro responses...
[*]I want this. Nao! The only way to do this on PC is for someone to mod their game, and since it's not official, I prefer to not play these mods. Except the minimum spawn distance. That's just cheap.Computron2000 wrote...
A better one would be to have nothing but maruaders, cerbie troopers, rocket troopers, hunters and phantomsJay_Hoxtatron wrote...
That wouldn't make it harder. It would be tedious.Perkocet13 wrote...
megabeast37215 wrote...
I personally think videos of 12 minute platinum speedruns, platinum solos, platinum with stupid weapons like Avengers, etc. have alot to do with it. No offense intended to the folks that made those videos... you're skills are to be admired (except GI Krysae users... they are to be spat upon). Just imagine yourself as a Bioware developer... you make a difficulty that is supposed to be super hard... to the point that you yourself cannot fathom players being able to solo it... then, Bahroo, RedJohn and Godless Paladin solo it on day 1... post videos, etc. It's almost a slap in the face to the efforts of the devs... and they want to make it so that people can't do those things... and I have no problem with that. There should be a mode that is unable to solo... even for the elite of the elite.
simple, have 11 waves of nothing but banshies, primes and atlas's
- max fire wait of 0.5 secs (burst fire every. single. time)
- evade reset duration of 0.1 secs instead of 3 secs now (chain evading like a boss)
- Shield regen delay of 1.5 secs instead of 6.5 secs now (shield gate back just as your harrier reloaded)
- sync kill attempt chance at 100% (close in attack a phantom? Heavy risk but no priiize)
- Global grenade cooldown of 0.5 secs instead of 10 secs now (ie they throw grenade after grenade so you have to move out of cover or die hugging it and once out, say hello to the rocket troopers)
- Stagger and knockback requirements doubled (can't grenade them to buy time any more)
- no minimum spawn distance (marauders drop straight behind you if you stand at spawn spots, elbow incoming!)
I can gaurantee you that 99% of the population will find this so challenging it will be funny
Modifié par Jay_Hoxtatron, 25 juillet 2012 - 01:22 .
kingvenom41392 wrote...
good spike the learning curve icant beleive people playing since day one still lay bronze we need more good players on platinum the harder the game is to start the sooner they squash the babies whining entirely like dark souls though that got ruined with an update to gave experience to ghosts and skelotons mroe exp for bosses and ng++ is as hard as it gets the game got to easy and thats supposed to be the hardest game of all or some crap like that keep making this game harder please i need the rushkviksverd wrote...
GodlessPaladin wrote...
1) Overall, Bioware has provided significantly more buffs than nerfs, including a number of elements of straight-up significant power creep. The game hasn't gotten harder.
2) Nerfing can expand the range of competitively viable build/loadout choices in the exact same way as buffing can. The number of competitively viable options depends on how many options occupy a top slot in the metagame. If a few weapons are outclassing many weapons at their respective niches, that reduces the range of competitively viable options. Whether you change it so that the better options get worse or the worse options get better have essentially the same result as far as diversity of competitive build options go.
Therefore, it makes no sense to oppose nerfing if you want to see a greater variety of build options. It would only make sense to oppose nerfs AND buffs that do not actually improve the balance. So, for example, opposing the Vindicator nerf or the Proximity Mine buff.
Good points, but I will take minor exception to point #1. It is harder for new players, who don't have ready access to most of the buffed weapons or the non-basic classes. They also don't have the experience (with regards to tactics, builds, whatever), and I think the learning curve has increased substantially as well.
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