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[LuckyBullet95]

Whi;lst the Krysae was powerful and probably did deserve a little tweak to bring it in balance with other guns nerfing it THIS MUCH highlights how powerful other guns like the Claymore, Piranha, Typhoon, Harrier and Talon are. 

This now puts them in the spotlight over the Krysae despite all 6 of the mentioined guns being very well balanced in comparison to each other. This means that even more people will become shotgun infiltrators bringing forward an onslaught of Piranha, Reegar, Claymore Infiltrators which will only beckon fourth more threads jjust like the Krysae ones.

These threads will eventually lead to the nerf of said weapon, and-if that nerf is as harsh as the Krysae's nerf it higlights the next weapon down the line, which will likely be another shotgun because of the great synergy it has with the Infiltrators...  So now with the Claymore and Krysae nerfed we get "Piranah nerf" threads. Behold: a Piranha and are you starting to see the pattern? 

If you nerf all the things BioWare you just get back to square one.One OP weapon is better than 50 UP ones...

This is ofcourse all speculation and could also be avoided through having BSN NOT bwhine but come on: This is BSN they called Tactical Scan OP before it was even released and  labelled the Harrier OP because "The Demolisher has Supply Pylon"... Stop crying OP because of good weapon/class synergy!

[Eugenesys]

With all the merging going on, bioware neglected the most important nerd. needing the store's ammo iv drops on psp, sps and rares..

[Eugenesys]

With all the merging going on, bioware neglected the most important nerd. needing the store's ammo iv drops on psp, sps and rares..

[LuckyBullet95]

I don't understand Eugene. Is that a complaint about the Level 4 Ammos ****blocking of ultra rares? Because yeah that sucks... better than getting 250k xp for my Level 20 though...

[The Waffle Cat]

Its a complain from some Promoter who is mad now

[inferno lizard]

bioware just needs to stop nerfing they arerare for a reason so bioware stop listening to the little kids who sit there and complain because they cant do anything,so they blame it on a a good weapon good people use and that gets it nerfed

Modifié par inferno lizard, 25 juillet 2012 - 02:06 .

[jaydubs67]

inferno lizard wrote...

bioware just needs to stop nerfing they arerare for a reason so bioware stop listening to the little kids who sit there and complain because they cant do anything,so they blame it on a a good weapon good people use and that gets it nerfed

less grammar i use more people listen to me because i throw info at them super fast like lightning and bioware needs to do stuff

Am I doing it right?  

[mrs_anomaly]

The thing about the Krysae nerf, for me personally:
I only ever used it once with my Geth Infiltrator (which I rarely even use my GI) just to see what the big deal was regarding the controversial OP and noob cannon rep it had. I was underwhelmed given that I'm a traditional sniper and found it unwieldy to aim..since you couldn't aim it properly and had to just guesstimate area..I totally sucked at using it. I don't know how thats possible but I failed with Krysae...I rock with a Widow.
Then Platinum is introduced and I'm thinking geez, my Widow X barely cuts it in Platinum with my SI and I start thinking of using the Krysae again. Then it gets nerfed The end. LOL

[LuckyBullet95]

To be honest most players used shotguns anyways, now that they made the Krysae all but redundant we're gonna be seeing alot more Claymores and Piranhas...

[Jackums]

The Krysae nerf is the only nerf I've ever been pleased by. The sigh of relief when I saw it was of epic proportions. I'm a sniper, so IDRC about how powerful other weapon types are. I'm just happy the cheapest sniper of the bunch got the nerf hammer. Now other snipers are not borderline useless as they were.

[Atheosis]

JackumsD wrote...

The Krysae nerf is the only nerf I've ever been pleased by. The sigh of relief when I saw it was of epic proportions. I'm a sniper, so IDRC about how powerful other weapon types are. I'm just happy the cheapest sniper of the bunch got the nerf hammer. Now other snipers are not borderline useless as they were.

Nerfing the Krysae did not improve the other sniper rifles.  You get that right?

[Jackums]

Atheosis wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

The Krysae nerf is the only nerf I've ever been pleased by. The sigh of relief when I saw it was of epic proportions. I'm a sniper, so IDRC about how powerful other weapon types are. I'm just happy the cheapest sniper of the bunch got the nerf hammer. Now other snipers are not borderline useless as they were.

Nerfing the Krysae did not improve the other sniper rifles.  You get that right?

It balanced them. It won't so easily out-shine them now. Ergo, it does affect the other snipers.

EDIT: I meant "borderline useless" in that the Krysae took much less skill to use whilst generally getting more kills than other snipers, which some may consider making using the other snipers less practical. I've always used the Black Widow and topped the scoreboard. Then the Krysae came and players I've played with before who were inferior snipers were doing better than me solely due to the Krysae's nature. That's imbalance and made the other snipers redundant if you're looking for high scores (for personal satisfaction/achievement ot w/e). Now that's not so much the case.

Modifié par JackumsD, 25 juillet 2012 - 02:35 .

[Omnifarious Nef]

JackumsD wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

The Krysae nerf is the only nerf I've ever been pleased by. The sigh of relief when I saw it was of epic proportions. I'm a sniper, so IDRC about how powerful other weapon types are. I'm just happy the cheapest sniper of the bunch got the nerf hammer. Now other snipers are not borderline useless as they were.

Nerfing the Krysae did not improve the other sniper rifles.  You get that right?

It balanced them. It won't so easily out-shine them now. Ergo, it does affect the other snipers.

It didn't do anything to them! Don't you see that? There was no balancing of the other guns, no tweaking of stats, no change of thier playstyle.

[Jackums]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

The Krysae nerf is the only nerf I've ever been pleased by. The sigh of relief when I saw it was of epic proportions. I'm a sniper, so IDRC about how powerful other weapon types are. I'm just happy the cheapest sniper of the bunch got the nerf hammer. Now other snipers are not borderline useless as they were.

Nerfing the Krysae did not improve the other sniper rifles.  You get that right?

It balanced them. It won't so easily out-shine them now. Ergo, it does affect the other snipers.

It didn't do anything to them! Don't you see that? There was no balancing of the other guns, no tweaking of stats, no change of thier playstyle.

The Krysae isn't cheaply over-powered, now the other snipers have a better chance of shining again. They were affectedm albeit indirectly. I never said they were literally altered by the recent changes.

[SilentRich]

JackumsD wrote...

The Krysae nerf is the only nerf I've ever been pleased by. The sigh of relief when I saw it was of epic proportions. I'm a sniper, so IDRC about how powerful other weapon types are. I'm just happy the cheapest sniper of the bunch got the nerf hammer. Now other snipers are not borderline useless as they were.

Yeah the only sniper worth a damn got the nerf hammer and all the others stayed where they were. Stay happy man.

[Omnifarious Nef]

JackumsD wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

The Krysae nerf is the only nerf I've ever been pleased by. The sigh of relief when I saw it was of epic proportions. I'm a sniper, so IDRC about how powerful other weapon types are. I'm just happy the cheapest sniper of the bunch got the nerf hammer. Now other snipers are not borderline useless as they were.

Nerfing the Krysae did not improve the other sniper rifles.  You get that right?

It b.alanced them It won't so easily out-shine them now. Ergo, it does affect the other snipers.

It didn't do anything to them! Don't you see that? There was no balancing of the other guns, no tweaking of stats, no change of thier playstyle.

The Krysae isn't cheaply over-powered, now the other snipers have a better chance of shining again. They were affectedm albeit indirectly. I never said they were literally altered by the recent changes.

[Jackums]

SilentRich wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

The Krysae nerf is the only nerf I've ever been pleased by. The sigh of relief when I saw it was of epic proportions. I'm a sniper, so IDRC about how powerful other weapon types are. I'm just happy the cheapest sniper of the bunch got the nerf hammer. Now other snipers are not borderline useless as they were.

Yeah the only sniper worth a damn got the nerf hammer and all the others stayed where they were. Stay happy man.

Yes, I'm quite happy. Thank you for the consideration.

[Finnegone]

Balancing the Krysae does not equal nerfing other weapons - particularly the URs. This is a logical fallacy.

You also seem to think that BW combs these forums for feedback and bases all balance changes on what a small minority of players tend to whine about. If they actually do that, I don't think they quite understand the business that they're in ("We are the makers of manners...").

Instead, I tend to believe that they base most balance changes on internal testing (they have testers, you know, that play this game JUST LIKE YOU.... and might notice if a gun that is capable of clearing spawn points on gold is just a wee overpowered) as well reams and reams of match data.

[Bonza99]

I think all the current weapons are well balanced, even the UR ones. They all rely on a class synergy and some skill in the play style. Good on the people who figure out some bangin combinations and do well in a game.

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

JackumsD wrote...

SilentRich wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

The Krysae nerf is the only nerf I've ever been pleased by. The sigh of relief when I saw it was of epic proportions. I'm a sniper, so IDRC about how powerful other weapon types are. I'm just happy the cheapest sniper of the bunch got the nerf hammer. Now other snipers are not borderline useless as they were.

Yeah the only sniper worth a damn got the nerf hammer and all the others stayed where they were. Stay happy man.

Yes, I'm quite happy. Thank you for the consideration.

so tell me which sniper rifle do you use in platinum runs

[Bonza99]

Then again, you can spam around corners with the krysae and not even have to be a good shot, I can imagine that needs to be taken into account in the balance.

[Taritu]

The Krysae was cheap and needed a nerf. That doesn't alter the fact that they either need to increase the sniper damage evolution for infiltrators now that that the Krysae is nerfed into the ground, or improve the other sniper rifles, since they're generally pretty sub-pr now.

[Taritu]

Finnegone wrote...

Balancing the Krysae does not equal nerfing other weapons - particularly the URs. This is a logical fallacy.

You also seem to think that BW combs these forums for feedback and bases all balance changes on what a small minority of players tend to whine about. If they actually do that, I don't think they quite understand the business that they're in ("We are the makers of manners...").

Instead, I tend to believe that they base most balance changes on internal testing (they have testers, you know, that play this game JUST LIKE YOU.... and might notice if a gun that is capable of clearing spawn points on gold is just a wee overpowered) as well reams and reams of match data.

Actually, I think they do pay some attention to the forums.  The best players (I am not one, so this is not e-peen stroking) are here.  Bioware internal testers had not, themselves, beaten Platinum after they increased its difficulty from where they could beat it.  BSN posters were soloing it within 24 hours.

[Holy-Hamster]

I'll be surprised if the pirahna doesn't get nerfed in some way

[PRC_Heavy_Z]

This all just reeks of whiny and butthurt little children who care more about a scoreboard than anything else.