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[Paragon Toast]

The first time I got the Krysae I felt awkward using it, but after unlocking the Krysae II, I started using it last week and realized that it was a great crowd control weapon. Honestly if it was an Ultra Rare it could have stayed where it was in its effectiveness IMO. I'm also not saying they shouldn't have nerfed it (I would still have liked it if they didn't) but for the sake of balance it should be nerfed..but not as hard as it was today.

With that said, it isn't completely useless now. It's still a great crowd control weapon. Even if the nerfs do seem large on paper. I'm still clueless as to why it can't be blindfired from cover though...

Modifié par Paragon Toast, 25 juillet 2012 - 05:05 .

[Reapinger]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

I don't understand Eugene. Is that a complaint about the Level 4 Ammos ****blocking of ultra rares? Because yeah that sucks... better than getting 250k xp for my Level 20 though...

It has nothing to do with UR droprate. If a UR is set to be in a pack, then it will. 

[Crypticqa]

It is like...


Just saying  

[defleshing]

don't worry by the time the piranha gets nerfed they will have released a new power weapon to take its place. its a game inside the game.

[LoboFH]

I was only using the Krysae in a very fun build for Demolisher that was posted in this forum, based around staggering and crowd control (Scorpio pistol and Krysae), the change is evident but the weapon is far from useless.

[Icophesis]

The snipers will never be as powerful on Gold until they do something about shield gating.

[Seerezaro]

The Krysae never did OMGZ high damage, it was good damage, but it did it over a relatively large AoE and high knockback.

I've built a few classes as non-power grenadier classes(usually krogan and vorcha sents). Since I'm not using powers I pack heavy weapons, When I first started doing this I had a black widow or widow and a claymore.

Shortly after I said well, let me use a krysae instead. It soon became the default weapon of this group because it very quickly out performed all of them, in fact in some cases I just flat out dropped the claymore and used a pistol with ammo piercing and ran around with a krysae and managed to do great. Mind you, again, this is a class that isn't using the power cooldown so is getting no benefit at all from this reduced weight set up. Yet it was still better.

Why? Well... it did high damage, had high knockback, and and a large AoE. I never had to be accurate with the weapon so if I had to quick scope something because it was in my face I didn't have to worry about missing.

I know a few people who never use any other gun and when they do try suddenly their score drops to near useless. Thats an immediate signal that something was wrong.

[Lord Rosario]

JackumsD wrote...

The Krysae nerf is the only nerf I've ever been pleased by. The sigh of relief when I saw it was of epic proportions. I'm a sniper, so IDRC about how powerful other weapon types are. I'm just happy the cheapest sniper of the bunch got the nerf hammer. Now other snipers are not borderline useless as they were.

Look, the krysae is one of those hybrid weapons. Calling it a sniper is like calling the Talon plain a pistol or the Crusader a regular shotgun, or the Indra as a regular sniper. They are all hybrid weapons, and that is what makes them worth using. Using the Krysae like a regular sniper is just stupid. The only thing that makes it sniper like is it's scope really, so saying that it is the cheapest sniper is plain silly. I can put a scope on my Falcon, but that doesn't make it a sniper.

Inevitably, someone will say "Well it's in the sniper category, so it's a sniper." Yeah, I get that, by category, Krysae and Indra are snipers, Talon and Scorpian are pistols, and the Crusader is a shotgun, but they don't act like one, so comparing skill levels and strengths between those of their similar categories doesn't make sence.

[LuckyBullet95]

Reapinger wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

I don't understand Eugene. Is that a complaint about the Level 4 Ammos ****blocking of ultra rares? Because yeah that sucks... better than getting 250k xp for my Level 20 though...

It has nothing to do with UR droprate. If a UR is set to be in a pack, then it will. 

I know that, just saying that Level IV Equipment is just annoying. I haven't really notced any difference between III and IV except with the Cyclonic Modulator. They could at least give a 5% boost in Ultra Rare droprate when all you're rare weapons and characters are maxed.

[DeathScepter]

Made all Weapon Platinum worthy

[Uberschveinen]

Oh, no! An AoE weapon has been made to do the same damage as the other AoE weapons! How horrid! It's almost like it was previously TOO good for an AoE weapon compared to the other, incidentally-just-fine AoE weapons!

If you needed a weapon that did the damage of a direct-fire gun and that made actually aiming almost literally irrelevant to play the game, then YOU are the problem, not the game.

If you didn't need this weapon to play the game, then why has it 'ruined the game'?

[BoomDynamite]

I didn't mind the Krysae much. Maybe they should lower it to Uncommon now.

[LuckyBullet95]

Uberschveinen wrote...

Oh, no! An AoE weapon has been made to do the same damage as the other AoE weapons! How horrid! It's almost like it was previously TOO good for an AoE weapon compared to the other, incidentally-just-fine AoE weapons!

If you needed a weapon that did the damage of a direct-fire gun and that made actually aiming almost literally irrelevant to play the game, then YOU are the problem, not the game.

If you didn't need this weapon to play the game, then why has it 'ruined the game'?

I never said IT did and I never mentioned that I used it. Nice selective reading my friend... I'm saying that by nerfing it so harshly less people will use it and switch to the next great gun (Ergo one of the Shotguns, which are the guns I actually use FYI) . Which means that gun will get the same exposure as the Krysae and as such the attention of the nerfers which the Krysae was previously getting. Leading to a nice nerf to said weapon (be it the Reegar, Claymore or Piranha). After that is nerfed the next gun is placed into the spotlight. And pattern continues. You can't (as much as memes may hope) "Nerf all teh things" like the ME3 fandom and BioWare seem to be doing because "nerfing all teh things" means you get right back where you started....

Also it is worth pointing out that the Krysea is a three shot sniper, it's not an assault rifle or pistol meaening it SHOULD be doing more damage than other explosive weaponry, you wouldn't want the Black Widow doing the same Damage Per Shot as the Harrier would you?

Everyone agreed it needed a nerf but the one we got was just rediculous. Most good players never used it anyways due it being outperformed by shotguns... now we have even more shotgun, Typhoon, Harrier users which only promotes that weapon as "overpowered". Are you seeing the problem with such an approach? Like I said you can't nerf all the because nerfing everything means the game implies that it was somewhat balanced in the first place (which it is really, there are about 10 guns that see regular use and every other gun is viable... Ahem).

[ntrisley]

Atheosis wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

The Krysae nerf is the only nerf I've ever been pleased by. The sigh of relief when I saw it was of epic proportions. I'm a sniper, so IDRC about how powerful other weapon types are. I'm just happy the cheapest sniper of the bunch got the nerf hammer. Now other snipers are not borderline useless as they were.

Nerfing the Krysae did not improve the other sniper rifles.  You get that right?

Sure.

But now that the Krysae is nerfed to more reasonable levels(although a tweaked out chimp can still feasibly use it to top charts) it allows for the entire category of Sniper Rifles to be reviewed in depth.

[LoboFH]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

You really don't get it.

The game need brutally effective weapons, no game need noob tubes. Now the Krysae is ok, it's still effective for some builds and tactics.

[LeandroBraz]

jaydubs67 wrote...

inferno lizard wrote...

bioware just needs to stop nerfing they arerare for a reason so bioware stop listening to the little kids who sit there and complain because they cant do anything,so they blame it on a a good weapon good people use and that gets it nerfed

less grammar i use more people listen to me because i throw info at them super fast like lightning and bioware needs to do stuff

Am I doing it right?  

Don't forget that you have people from the entire world here, some of them (like me) never had the opportunity to go on an English class, so yeah, you gonna got a lot of bad grammar, don't go all smart over it..

About Bioware listening to little kids complaining, I just did a thread about it

[DivineAura]

Use a scorpion then. Still the same body-popping goodness!

[C0MB0]

I keep seeing Krysae threads and thought this still stood. When people whine enough then guns get nerfed.
That is what happened to the Krysae only it wasn't nerfed it had a bat took to it. Read OPs post. It makes sense.

And yes the P shottie was nerfed from all the whiners. Good job guys.

PS The Krysae was horribly overpowered and did need a nerf, but it didn't need to have an example made of it.

[d_nought]

C0MB0 wrote...

I keep seeing Krysae threads and thought this still stood. When people whine enough then guns get nerfed.
That is what happened to the Krysae only it wasn't nerfed it had a bat took to it. Read OPs post. It makes sense.

And yes the P shottie was nerfed from all the whiners. Good job guys.

PS The Krysae was horribly overpowered and did need a nerf, but it didn't need to have an example made of it.

wtf is this. seriously?

[C0MB0]

Yes.Pay attention.

[Dark Tlaloc]

Man, I miss the old Krysae. Not so much because it was all-powerful (it kind of was), but because it was a really fun gun to use. It’s cool looking, had an interesting zoom mechanic, and was relatively unique from a gameplay perspective.

Now, it just sucks. Is it usable? Sure, if you slap some ammo powers on it, and maybe use it with a Destroyer or Infiltrator. But aside from that, forget it. It’s a shame, because it didn’t deserve to be completely buried like it has been; a damage nerf would’ve been fine, but the combination of damage nerf + fire speed nerf has made it a pretty worthless gun, especially when you already have guns like the Striker, Falcon and Scorpion.

[MADDPADD]

The general mentality of gamers these days.......

Players are scoring more points than me with [insert any weapon here] whaaaaaaaa! needz nurf now plox!!