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[Immortal Strife]

Nah, I love it.

[darkpassenger2342]

lord_nair wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

These are the kinds of increases in difficulty I like to see when going for an increase in difficulty(Though this was just a bug fix as they were always supposed to stomp).

It's an actual mechanic that you as a player has to react to or else be punished because of something you did as a team, not something the RNG did.

It does suck that it's a case of your teammate has to react to you being downed or else you sit out for the wave, but it does encourage more team based play, which this is supposed to be a team game.

this makes sense, I think for a private games with all friends this is much less of an issue, however for any random pickup group, this makes the game much worse.

 if those "random" fools run off on their own on gold/plat and die and get stomped,
i think applause is in order. not blame.
they know better by now, and if they don't they'll be learning soon.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 25 juillet 2012 - 06:37 .

[Lukeman1884]

lord_nair wrote...

InfamousResult wrote...

lord_nair wrote...

very constructive comment, thank you so much dude.

Sorry, bro. Them's the breaks. If one difficulty becomes too difficult, that's why there are other difficulties.

Constructivity isn't necessary when the answer is that simple.

if you don't have anything helpful to say, why not stop posting please? Which difficulty i play doesn't seem to be any of your business.

Difficulty levels exist for a reason. Not everyone is supposed to be able to play every difficulty. If the buff makes it too hard to complete gold, then maybe you SHOULD switch to silver, instead of just stopping entirely. He DID make a constructive comment, he's suggesting you an alternative to not playing.

[Lord Rosario]

Suzaku4489 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

if people dont run off by themselves its never a problem.
even in platinum difficulties some people have a hard time understanding
its MULTIPLAYER so there is emphasis on TEAMWORK.
if people stick with their squads the stomping is not a problem at all.

This.  Certainly, you aren't always near a teammate or you get screwed over in some form, but if you're normally near friendlies and they don't just ignore you, it's easy to not get stomped.  I've spent a coupld hours on U/U/G tonight and seen no issue unless I'm lone-wolfing for a bit, or my teammates stare at my corpse for the next 20 seconds from 5 feet away.

The sheer number of times that I have been stomped by a hunter, that is hidden, and stumbling from a heavy hit just proves this so wrong. Also, I was stomped by an atlas through a wall, around a corner, and at least 15 meters away [assuming you cut the corner in calculation.] How the hell is a team mate supposed to help with that? On top of all that, I've had several times where something will stomp me while im still collapsing onto the ground, leaving team mates not time to react.

Maybe some of these glitches should be fixed first before making a 'bug fix' or 'buff' like this?

[Shampoohorn]

This seems like a good time to dredge up an old thread

http://social.biowar...2993/1#11453673

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 25 juillet 2012 - 06:41 .

[born2beagator]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Suzaku4489 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

if people dont run off by themselves its never a problem.
even in platinum difficulties some people have a hard time understanding
its MULTIPLAYER so there is emphasis on TEAMWORK.
if people stick with their squads the stomping is not a problem at all.

This.  Certainly, you aren't always near a teammate or you get screwed over in some form, but if you're normally near friendlies and they don't just ignore you, it's easy to not get stomped.  I've spent a coupld hours on U/U/G tonight and seen no issue unless I'm lone-wolfing for a bit, or my teammates stare at my corpse for the next 20 seconds from 5 feet away.

The sheer number of times that I have been stomped by a hunter, that is hidden, and stumbling from a heavy hit just proves this so wrong. Also, I was stomped by an atlas through a wall, around a corner, and at least 15 meters away [assuming you cut the corner in calculation.] How the hell is a team mate supposed to help with that? On top of all that, I've had several times where something will stomp me while im still collapsing onto the ground, leaving team mates not time to react.

Maybe some of these glitches should be fixed first before making a 'bug fix' or 'buff' like this?

Hunters can stomp????  let me get this straight, can EVERYTHING stomp you now?

[Cyonan]

lord_nair wrote...

this makes sense, I think for a private games with all friends this is much less of an issue, however for any random pickup group, this makes the game much worse.

That's an unfortunate risk of playing with randoms is that they aren't going to be good or they aren't going to be teamplayers. That's how it goes in every game where you play with randoms. There isn't really anything that can be done about it, unless Bioware starts creating 2 different versions of each difficulty, one for randoms and one for premades.

I play randoms quite a bit, so I take that risk quite a bit myself.

[Lord Rosario]

born2beagator wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Suzaku4489 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

if people dont run off by themselves its never a problem.
even in platinum difficulties some people have a hard time understanding
its MULTIPLAYER so there is emphasis on TEAMWORK.
if people stick with their squads the stomping is not a problem at all.

This.  Certainly, you aren't always near a teammate or you get screwed over in some form, but if you're normally near friendlies and they don't just ignore you, it's easy to not get stomped.  I've spent a coupld hours on U/U/G tonight and seen no issue unless I'm lone-wolfing for a bit, or my teammates stare at my corpse for the next 20 seconds from 5 feet away.

The sheer number of times that I have been stomped by a hunter, that is hidden, and stumbling from a heavy hit just proves this so wrong. Also, I was stomped by an atlas through a wall, around a corner, and at least 15 meters away [assuming you cut the corner in calculation.] How the hell is a team mate supposed to help with that? On top of all that, I've had several times where something will stomp me while im still collapsing onto the ground, leaving team mates not time to react.

Maybe some of these glitches should be fixed first before making a 'bug fix' or 'buff' like this?

Hunters can stomp????  let me get this straight, can EVERYTHING stomp you now?

No no, you are safe from swarmer stomps I also think Ravengers, Banshees, husks, and phantoms can't stomp you either.

[RainMane]

They should at least not let you get stomped while you're being revived..

[born2beagator]

Lord Rosario wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Suzaku4489 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

if people dont run off by themselves its never a problem.
even in platinum difficulties some people have a hard time understanding
its MULTIPLAYER so there is emphasis on TEAMWORK.
if people stick with their squads the stomping is not a problem at all.

This.  Certainly, you aren't always near a teammate or you get screwed over in some form, but if you're normally near friendlies and they don't just ignore you, it's easy to not get stomped.  I've spent a coupld hours on U/U/G tonight and seen no issue unless I'm lone-wolfing for a bit, or my teammates stare at my corpse for the next 20 seconds from 5 feet away.

The sheer number of times that I have been stomped by a hunter, that is hidden, and stumbling from a heavy hit just proves this so wrong. Also, I was stomped by an atlas through a wall, around a corner, and at least 15 meters away [assuming you cut the corner in calculation.] How the hell is a team mate supposed to help with that? On top of all that, I've had several times where something will stomp me while im still collapsing onto the ground, leaving team mates not time to react.

Maybe some of these glitches should be fixed first before making a 'bug fix' or 'buff' like this?

Hunters can stomp????  let me get this straight, can EVERYTHING stomp you now?

No no, you are safe from swarmer stomps I also think Ravengers, Banshees, husks, and phantoms can't stomp you either.

What about Marauders, Cannibals,  Hunters, Pyros, Rocket Troopers etc?

If they all have gained a stomp I think that is too much

[Stinja]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

 if those "random" fools run off on their own on gold/plat and die and get stomped,

Its not even running off alone though.  Last night in gold games, we had people go down fifteen feet from another player, but there're would be two troopers running to the downed guy, and fighting to stomp them   Unless you had a grenade or stunning weapon ready they'd get stomped before you can reach them / kill two troopers.

I think stomping IS a good thing on Gold/plat, but the bleed out counter should still be useful too...  They feel too stompy at the moment.

[T41rdEye]

I like this move, but if an enemy is being shot at by your teammate and is STILL making a beeline to stomp your melon, that's too much. Enemies should only stomp when there are no other players in LoS.

[jd641]

Stinja wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

 if those "random" fools run off on their own on gold/plat and die and get stomped,

Its not even running off alone though.  Last night in gold games, we had people go down fifteen feet from another player, but there're would be two troopers running to the downed guy, and fighting to stomp them   Unless you had a grenade or stunning weapon ready they'd get stomped before you can reach them / kill two troopers.

I think stomping IS a good thing on Gold/plat, but the bleed out counter should still be useful too...  They feel too stompy at the moment.

Isn't that sort of like saying that they shoot at you too much? They're trying to wipe the team and I love the aggression that they've put on stomping and taking out a team mate until the next round, it's made Gold much more interesting and frantic anytime a team mate goes down that's away from the group.

[Dilandau3000]

I'd be fine with it if they made one change: enemies should not stomp you while a squadmate is reviving you.

[ThelLastTruePatriot]

lord_nair wrote...

InfamousResult wrote...

lord_nair wrote...

very constructive comment, thank you so much dude.

Sorry, bro. Them's the breaks. If one difficulty becomes too difficult, that's why there are other difficulties.

Constructivity isn't necessary when the answer is that simple.

if you don't have anything helpful to say, why not stop posting please? Which difficulty i play doesn't seem to be any of your business.

 Yet you choose to come onto a public forum to complain. Not the best strategy if you value your privacy, you leave yourself open to the comments of the community. That being said, I tend to agree that this is not a huge problem except when players decide to branch off and not stick together. One can also use their consumables to revive themselves in the worst case scenarios. You just have to make a tactical decision, stay down and risk being stomped to gain an opening to flee, or risk getting gibbed as you're reviving. I have to admit, I like that it forces people to revive themselves instead of lying about waiting for your team mates to endanger themselves to come and get you because you decided to run off.

[NathanW18]

Yeah, I was stomped by an Atlas today on gold. That was a surprise. I don't know why it was necessary to change this, but oh well.

[born2beagator]

NathanW18 wrote...

Yeah, I was stomped by an Atlas today on gold. That was a surprise. I don't know why it was necessary to change this, but oh well.

I was fine with having geth troopers and assault troopers stomp you.  But making nearly everything able is overkill

[humes spork]

1. Don't run off like an idiot. Stick with your team, who can not only revive you but provide fire support while you are revived.

2. Use your goddamn medigel.

[Lord Rosario]

born2beagator wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Suzaku4489 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

if people dont run off by themselves its never a problem.
even in platinum difficulties some people have a hard time understanding
its MULTIPLAYER so there is emphasis on TEAMWORK.
if people stick with their squads the stomping is not a problem at all.

This.  Certainly, you aren't always near a teammate or you get screwed over in some form, but if you're normally near friendlies and they don't just ignore you, it's easy to not get stomped.  I've spent a coupld hours on U/U/G tonight and seen no issue unless I'm lone-wolfing for a bit, or my teammates stare at my corpse for the next 20 seconds from 5 feet away.

The sheer number of times that I have been stomped by a hunter, that is hidden, and stumbling from a heavy hit just proves this so wrong. Also, I was stomped by an atlas through a wall, around a corner, and at least 15 meters away [assuming you cut the corner in calculation.] How the hell is a team mate supposed to help with that? On top of all that, I've had several times where something will stomp me while im still collapsing onto the ground, leaving team mates not time to react.

Maybe some of these glitches should be fixed first before making a 'bug fix' or 'buff' like this?

Hunters can stomp????  let me get this straight, can EVERYTHING stomp you now?

No no, you are safe from swarmer stomps I also think Ravengers, Banshees, husks, and phantoms can't stomp you either.

What about Marauders, Cannibals,  Hunters, Pyros, Rocket Troopers etc?

If they all have gained a stomp I think that is too much

I know I've been stomped by a Hunter today, [either that or an invisible trooper... xD] Can't confirm on the other ones really. I don't play silver/bronze or get stomped enough to really know. x.x

[PaperAlien]

I would be perfectly fine with this IF the executions only happen when they should. eg, no executing THROUGH WALLS or 10 metres away.

[Lord Rosario]

humes spork wrote...

1. Don't run off like an idiot. Stick with your team, who can not only revive you but provide fire support while you are revived.

2. Use your goddamn medigel.

It's not just the people that run out that get stomped, especially with the moving objectives.

Medigel is already scarce enough for me, I don't want to have to use 5 times as more on things I could have waited out.

[Lord Rosario]

PaperAlien wrote...

I would be perfectly fine with this IF the executions only happen when they should. eg, no executing THROUGH WALLS or 10 metres away.

Or on my crotch... It's just insult to injury... litterally.

[Brenon Holmes]

Just as an FYI, the only enemies that should be able to stomp you are:

Cerberus Trooper
Atlas
Geth Trooper
Cannibal

and for them to stomp you, they need to run up to you and give you the boot... except the Atlas, who feeds you the drill hand... or the Cannibal who pukes on you (this one is currently kind of finnicky though). :happy:

Modifié par Brenon Holmes, 25 juillet 2012 - 07:16 .

[iDevour]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Just as an FYI, the only enemies that should be able to stomp you are:

Cerberus Trooper
Atlas
Geth Trooper
Cannibal

and for them to stomp you, they need to run up to you and give you the boot... except the Atlas, who feeds you the drill hand... or the Cannibal who pukes on you (this one is currently kind of finnicky though). :happy:

Wait, cannibals can execute you? Huh. I honestly didn't know that.

[darkpassenger2342]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Just as an FYI, the only enemies that should be able to stomp you are:

Cerberus Trooper
Atlas
Geth Trooper
Cannibal

and for them to stomp you, they need to run up to you and give you the boot... except the Atlas, who feeds you the drill hand... or the Cannibal who pukes on you (this one is currently kind of finnicky though). :happy:

 thank you for the clarification, this thread was beginning to make me think id be getting stomped by everything from banshees to geth turrets.