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[friedricethem0n]

A Salarian Infiltrator with Widow X is still a beast on Gold. The Energy Drain strips shields for your Widow X to one shot almost anything except bosses.

[.458]

friedricethem0n wrote...

A Salarian Infiltrator with Widow X is still a beast on Gold. The Energy Drain strips shields for your Widow X to one shot almost anything except bosses.

My male quarian infiltrator with widow 10 is also extremely good on gold. There is a lot more to any infiltrator than cloak and weapon, but I have no trouble chewing through an atlas or prime. Those dang banshees just refuse to hold still though, it helps when a squad mate is willing to try holding her down like a husk does.

[IronRush]

Beast on gold? Beast for sure is not the word. Not close that.
Today shotguns do what snipers cant. Very effective close and at distance. Do not suffer shield gate problem. Do not have hipfire penalty. So the fact is... beast is not even close the correct word.
If you play SI and QMI it is viable, but it is helped by the class.

[.458]

IronRush wrote...

Beast on gold? Beast for sure is not the word. Not close that.
Today shotguns do what snipers cant. Very effective close and at distance. Do not suffer shield gate problem. Do not have hipfire penalty. So the fact is... beast is not even close the correct word.
If you play SI and QMI it is viable, but it is helped by the class.

Don't the M-98 and black widow have some shield gate advantages still? Not sure. But what I really like is the armor pen. On most maps I don't bother going around to reach an enemy under cover...I put a bullet through his head after going through cover. Much easier with a black widow than a shotgun. Like on FB Hydra, the objective to kill persons of interest does not require me to leave the LZ cover from most anywhere on the map. Especially that back room. Shield gate is not the only issue. Natural armor pen without a buff is very nice if you know how to use it; add the buff and it is insane. Add armor pen ammo and it is funny as hell. Add a male quarian tac scan for the frosting on the cake.

Modifié par .458, 26 juillet 2012 - 03:41 .

[Miniditka77]

.458 wrote...

Don't the M-98 and black widow have some shield gate advantages still? 

No, unfortunately they don't, and I don't think they ever have.  The BW has a shield gate "advantage" in the sense that it has a 3-shot magazine, but that's it.

[Sabbatine]

Nissun wrote...

Woo! I managed to actually land a shot on a Nemesis with my Javelin!

Oh what's that? She has one bar of shield left? Dammit. Even if I land a second shot, I'm still gonna have to shoot a third time. This is gonna take forever, with how fast they move. Well, here we go, I'm almost done reloading...

When confronted with this situation, I'll usually quickly run over to the nemesis, melee her once to knock down the shield, and run back to cover to make the kill shot.  Absolutely nothing can go wrong with this plan.

[Miniditka77]

Furian USN wrote...

Also: what lets shot guns ignore shield gate? I assume it is because the pellets all hit but calculate damage seperately.. so you actually hit it really fast in a row, thus damaging past the shield gate, not really ignoring it.

What im worried about is that shield gate may be a trait intrisic to the enemies and it may be very difficult or impossible to allow only certain things to bypass the gate without having a fast-damaging effect. (like shot gun pellets)

I may be entirely wrong - just trying to get this sorted to come up with some suggestions we could actually see.

So far im thinking faster reload and higher damage is what we would get.

This is exactly right.  It's the same as if you had shot 8 rounds from a rapid-fire weapon at once.  Shotguns don't actually "ignore" shield gate - one of the pellets (the one that breaks the shield gate) will not do full damage because of the shield gate.

[IronRush]

Yes, this is the reason.
Without shield gate mess, I think, maybe, a "fast fix" could be very fast reload times and a damage buff to one bullet snipers. So you can deal more shots and if miss, it wont be a huge problem.
But Javelin needs to be more lighter.

[IronRush]

Someone know if Eric Fagnan still on vacation?

[IronRush]

Bump...

[FERNANDO CFARBR]

Sabbatine wrote...

Nissun wrote...

Woo! I managed to actually land a shot on a Nemesis with my Javelin!

Oh what's that? She has one bar of shield left? Dammit. Even if I land a second shot, I'm still gonna have to shoot a third time. This is gonna take forever, with how fast they move. Well, here we go, I'm almost done reloading...

When confronted with this situation, I'll usually quickly run over to the nemesis, melee her once to knock down the shield, and run back to cover to make the kill shot.  Absolutely nothing can go wrong with this plan.

Try this on a Phantom and you're dead.

[Gamemako]

Gamemako wrote...

Is it possible that SR Amp IV is 45% and Warp IV is 50%?

I just realized that I got totally carried away there and made up a consumable that doesn't exist. Whoops. Warp Ammo IV would have to be 65%, which is pretty unlikely, or it would have to be a multiplicative bonus.

[Kyerea]

They should buff the single-shot SRs all around since the Rank 6 SR TC nerf which affected ONLY the SR Infiltrators and not the consistently higher-scoring/dps Shotty Infiltrators.

[Gamemako]

Kyerea wrote...

They should buff the single-shot SRs all around since the Rank 6 SR TC nerf which affected ONLY the SR Infiltrators and not the consistently higher-scoring/dps Shotty Infiltrators.

Eh, it was also affecting the Krysae (good ****ing riddance) and making sniper rifles effectively immune to balance across classes (i.e. you balance it for infils and make it unusable for others, or you balance for others and make it OP on Infils). A 40% mutliplier is just too damn much no matter how you slice it.

[xSNPx ZoDiaC]

Either remove shieldgate for them or decrease it to like 50-70%.

5%?! Serious BioWare?! BALANCE???


lol lets make the Javelin, an anti-material sniper rifle that can shoot through a vault door like a hot knife through butter! Oh wait, balance! So now lets give enemies with shields shield gate protection!
Now a centurion or Marauder can survive a direct shot! lol, balance.


Single-shot sniper rifles should have some innate ability to ignore shield-gate. Right now they're a joke.

[Moonwish]

They should remove hipfire penalty, its a stupid stuff from the start....

[Mabari Owns High Dragon The 2nd]

I haven't touched a Sniper Rifle since I started playing again minus the one time I used my Salarian Infiltrator in a Gold match. That was a freaking nightmare as the guy next to me just spammed Biotic Slash, so I couldn't aim at all. But seriously, I rarely ever see single shot snipers anymore, and even multishot snipers are becoming obsolete.

What I used to use on Gold---> SI with Widow/ SE with Carnifex/ Batarian Soldier with Graal/GE with GPS.

What I use now---> N7 Destroyer with Revenant and Piranha/N7 Paladin with Disciple and Carnifex/GE with GPS.

Shotguns, Pistols, and fast firing Assault Rifles really seem to be the only really useful weapons anymore...

[IronRush]

Moonwish wrote...

They should remove hipfire penalty, its a stupid stuff from the start....

I very agree with that also. You remembered well.

[IronRush]

Where are you Derek, Eric?
What you think guys?

[IronRush]

Bump...

[ka243]

+1 snipers need a buff. They indicated at one point that they didnt want to buff srs at the same time as the tc nerf to not effect too many inter-related things at once (and implying that a sr buff would come later). Nothing so far.....

[IronRush]

ka243 wrote...

+1 snipers need a buff. They indicated at one point that they didnt want to buff srs at the same time as the tc nerf to not effect too many inter-related things at once (and implying that a sr buff would come later). Nothing so far.....

Yes, 3 bullets snipers is still playable. I am playing Valiant these days.
Besides TC small nerf, one bullet snipers already needed a buff.

[IronRush]

I have hope tomorrow we will have a great news about it...

[Seekerr047]

what we need is a new super-doomy single shot sniper in the next DLC. One that doesn't fire exploding rounds AND do as much damage as the BW (Pre-Patch) AND ignore shield-gate, AND suffer virtually no hip-fire penalty AND and generally foul the balance of the game....

Please, just one totally legit sniper to use. I'm getting tired of bouncing back and forth between my Widow (and hitting the Gate like a brick wall) and my Kishock (which suffers the myriad quirks of projectile weapons).

Modifié par Seekerr047, 31 juillet 2012 - 05:48 .

[kingvenom41392]

 i would love nothing more than for my javelyn 6 to break the shield gate to be worth its weight