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[Shadow Shep]

cheezeee wrote...

how about bringing headshots back?
not getting a base headshot damage is the most unrealistic thing to a shooter game.

I believe they are working on bringing back headshots for boss units.  It was an issue of not being able to change the multipliers for only the bosses (or something).  Supposedly to be implemented in the next patch, along with fixed banshee magnet hands.  No telling exactly when that will be though. 

[IronRush]

Gamemako wrote...

Not enough. Not close to enough. I bet it's a bandaid until they create a mod or something, though. Not very useful in that form...

I know Mako, but it is a start...
They never tweak all of one time. Lets wait. I know Eric, Derek and Bioware are watching our snipers now.
I think shield bypass could be like silver, 75%. But we will dealing with huge life points.
There are many ways to improve one shot snipers...
Few possible tweaks:

- Shield gate bypass at least 75% on gold/platinum.
- Fast reload times and more damage (Mantis, Widow and Javelin)
- More effective against armor
- bosses headshot bonus (only to snipers)
- no hipfire penalty
- on platinum stopping bosses to regenerate shields and barriers for few seconds.
- Javelin, ultra rare, need to have better magazine and less weight.


What do you think?

ps: welcome back from vacation Eric Fagnan.

Modifié par IronRush, 01 août 2012 - 05:30 .

[IronRush]

So?

[IronRush]

Up...

[-tzi]

If you're going to tamper with the shieldgate, you're going to have to come up with another way to compensate for Kishock's trickyness.

[AwesomeDudex64]

I would love to see infiltrator's cloak power to get it's damage buff back for rank 6, sniper damage. Whoever thought it was a great idea to nerf the sniper damage just because of one OP Krysae needs to be fired right now.

[IronRush]

AwesomeDudex64 wrote...

I would love to see infiltrator's cloak power to get it's damage buff back for rank 6, sniper damage. Whoever thought it was a great idea to nerf the sniper damage just because of one OP Krysae needs to be fired right now.

About that I dont know...
Maybe TC rank 6 need another thing to make interesting this choice.

Maybe, I dont know, 25% damage for snipers + 15% shield bypass vs. bonus power on cloak.

[IronRush]

up...

[IronRush]

Lets go again...

[IronRush]

I was testing today on Gold...
Claymore infiltrator vs. Widow infiltrator (same spec on both, same char).
Today, is impossible to compare. CI wins by far.

Please guys, bring back our one shot snipers to the game!

[Princess Rolf]

I´m in!

[Necrotron]

Single shot sniper rifles need something, yes.

[IronRush]

More thoughts?

[UnknownMercenary]

Lower the shield gate more for snipers. I think 75% specifically for one shot snipers might not be too much considering the health increases on Gold and Platinum.

[IronRush]

Someone is left to post opinions here?

[IronRush]

Bump to glory!

[WMcAlister]

I strongly support Javelin loving in the form of buf****e, and potentially the Widow as well. But screw the mantis. I don't see any reason to try and make an Avenger as good as a Harrier, after all.

Edit.  Weird auto censorship   Buffing.  Let's jsut say buffing instead.  That ok with you BSN-bot?  Slay one human for yes, two humans for no.

Modifié par WMcAlister, 07 août 2012 - 03:25 .

[IronRush]

WMcAlister wrote...

I strongly support Javelin loving in the form of buf****e, and potentially the Widow as well. But screw the mantis. I don't see any reason to try and make an Avenger as good as a Harrier, after all.

You dont understand Alister...
Mantis will never be better than Mantis, Kishock or Javelin. But it suffer from the same problem. They need to be buffed on the same scale.
Javelin need to has a better buff for sure. It is UR.

[UnknownMercenary]

I think I posted my last test results here, so I'll post more.

Still using this build I decided to test the one-shot snipers again, this time using as many headshot damage boosts as possible. I did a handful of Cerberus Gold games using both a Widow X and a Javelin VII. Both weapons had ammo+EB mods, Warp IV ammo, Vulnerability VI V and Targeting VI III. I acknowledge that this is not the most optimal setup for a damage focused sniper but I'm not burning two respec cards for the sake of this.

I noticed that cloaked headshots did not do much against Centurions (from full shields, 1 headshot takes out ~4 health bars), but did a large amount of health damage to the Nemesis and Engineer at full health and shields (3-4 health bars left on a Nemesis, 1-2 health bars left on an Engineer). I noticed a few times I was one-shotting Engineers but that may be because I was hitting the turret on their backs when I was shooting at them from an upward angle. I had one outlier where I managed to kill a Phantom with one Javelin headshot, but proximity mine or teammate powers might have stripped her barrier right before my shot landed. Most instances, a cloaked headshot to a Phantom with full barriers would take 1 bar of health. The Widow X with these amps serves fine - it cannot one-shot many units aside from Troopers but it does respectable damage if one aims for headshots. The Javelin does not perform noticeably better, except against the Atlas.

I did a couple of Reaper matches to test the Widow, but they don't have many units affected by the shield gate to begin with. I haven't tested against Geth but I expect performance to be roughly the same.

tl;dr - Single shots are better than they were before if you can aim for the head and put on headshot damage amps, but multi-shot snipers are still better if you want to snipe.

edit: Just remembered I had used spare ammo, not AP mod, in my tests, but this shouldn't affect the results on humanoid targets.

Modifié par UnknownMercenary, 07 août 2012 - 09:15 .

[IronRush]

Nice test Mercenary.
Yes... I made some tests here also. Still very bad.
You put many modifiers to make the thing perfect. But still lack punch.
We need so much these buffs. At least 25% shield gate bypass. It will only affect mostly one shot snipers.

[IronRush]

About shield regeneration change, we can see as small victory for one bullet snipers tomorrow.
But we need more.

[IronRush]

bump

[Shampoohorn]

bump.

I've recently started playing infiltrators again. (No, I didn't stop when TC got balanced, I just never played them that much.) Sniper rifles need a buff. 15% damage bonus across the board and a weight reduction on the javelin. Shield gate numbers ought be be further changed as well.

[Kaall]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Make them ignore the shieldgate.

[IronRush]

I think this week we will have another good news about it.