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[Lividliver]

Dracian wrote...

I am totally against that petition. Why ? Farming. Here's the method (for a gold game, idk about credit gain in platinium) :

1. Go to wave on gold.
2. Complete the objective. Gain 9k.
3. Host unplugs internet cable. Everyone is disconnected, wave is reset.
4. Previous host plug internet cable and join friends in the game.
5. Go back to step 2.

9k credits every 3 minutes or 180k an hour. Some people can do that easily, I'll admit it, but imagine what it would be on wave 10 gold with 4 Infiltrators and a 4 devices objectives : 35k every 3 minutes or 700k an hour.

That's why I'm completely against... And that's why I hope you'll be convinced. I admit it, it's a pain in the azz to be disconnected on wave 10 gold, but the system right now is good because it prevents to much exploits, the only flaw being EA servers...

Guys,he explained it best.This is why I proposed the timeout to apply to all regardless of circumstances(even if rejoining private or public matches).On plat,making it to wave 10 and doing that round over and over can result in massive credits in a short time.On glacier farm,the small size of the map makes most objectives barring hacking a very short affair.

Think of it as a break.At least you will have your credits which is better than nothing.If you are frequently being disconnected,the fault lies either with EA,the host or you.There is nothing you can do if the fault lies with EA except complain to them.If it is the host problem,there is nothing you can do either other than petition Bioware to provide us with some sort of ping filter to get less laggy hosts.If it is the fault of your own computer,it will make more sense to stop playing for the moment and troubleshoot rather than throwing yourself at match after match only to be dced halfway each time.

Modifié par Lividliver, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:04 .

[Vagrant91684]

Heck yeah, I'll sign this.

[Gravisanimi]

Signed, for my 10mil + credit

[najzere]

Dracian wrote...

I am totally against that petition. Why ? Farming. Here's the method (for a gold game, idk about credit gain in platinium) :

1. Go to wave on gold.
2. Complete the objective. Gain 9k.
3. Host unplugs internet cable. Everyone is disconnected, wave is reset.
4. Previous host plug internet cable and join friends in the game.
5. Go back to step 2.

9k credits every 3 minutes or 180k an hour. Some people can do that easily, I'll admit it, but imagine what it would be on wave 10 gold with 4 Infiltrators and a 4 devices objectives : 35k every 3 minutes or 700k an hour.

That's why I'm completely against... And that's why I hope you'll be convinced. I admit it, it's a pain in the azz to be disconnected on wave 10 gold, but the system right now is good because it prevents to much exploits, the only flaw being EA servers...

Which can be prevented by only awarding credits for an objective wave once in a match. Ragequitters were going to quit anyway, so that leaves people who don't care about extraction. I don't think it's faster to sign out of PSN from the XMB (on PS3 obviously) or turn off your modem than it is to just wipe on purpose after the objectives like they do already. There's no need for a time delay before you can start a new match or rejoin after a disconnect, it's hardly an advantage to be able to mimic your connection going down and keep your credits. And even if it were, this decision should be made to benefit honest players getting disconnections before worrying about credit farmers.

This assumes BW can modify only giving credits once for objectives (if it doesn't already work like that, I'll take your word for it) and they can tell the difference between losing connection and a player quitting (I'm assuming that's the case since you get a message saying your connection was lost).

tl;dr signed

[Razick]

Lividliver wrote...

Dracian wrote...

I am totally against that petition. Why ? Farming. Here's the method (for a gold game, idk about credit gain in platinium) :

1. Go to wave on gold.
2. Complete the objective. Gain 9k.
3. Host unplugs internet cable. Everyone is disconnected, wave is reset.
4. Previous host plug internet cable and join friends in the game.
5. Go back to step 2.

9k credits every 3 minutes or 180k an hour. Some people can do that easily, I'll admit it, but imagine what it would be on wave 10 gold with 4 Infiltrators and a 4 devices objectives : 35k every 3 minutes or 700k an hour.

That's why I'm completely against... And that's why I hope you'll be convinced. I admit it, it's a pain in the azz to be disconnected on wave 10 gold, but the system right now is good because it prevents to much exploits, the only flaw being EA servers...

Guys,he explained it best.This is why I proposed the timeout to apply to all regardless of circumstances(even if rejoining private or public matches).On plat,making it to wave 10 and doing that round over and over can result in massive credits in a short time.On glacier farm,the small size of the map makes most objectives barring hacking a very short affair.

Think of it as a break.At least you will have your credits which is better than nothing.If you are frequently being disconnected,the fault lies either with EA,the host or you.There is nothing you can do if the fault lies with EA except complain to them.If it is the host problem,there is nothing you can do either other than petition Bioware to provide us with some sort of ping filter to get less laggy hosts.If it is the fault of your own computer,it will make more sense to stop playing for the moment and troubleshoot rather than throwing yourself at match after match only to be dced halfway each time.

Really he didn't explain it best.  What he is saying would not be possible at all if they were to do it just like it is petitioned.

 Rickter09_3D wrote...

My petition is: Please could the xp and credits earned in multiplayer be automatically stored at the end of each wave so if you lose connection, you can retain them. I know this might lead to people exiting on purpose but you could add some kind of penalty where you only get 50% or 25% of the points earned to discourage this while people getting disconnected do not lose everything.

If the xp/credits are stored at the END of the wave then restarting the wave does not give you more of anything since restarting the wave would also reset the xp/credits earned for that wave.  With that said they could easily grant us our points at the end of each wave and use the time penalty to keep players from joining other games for a set time if they leave games early but still allow for players to have a chance to rejoin the game they got disconnected from if they get back before the spot has been filled.

[Jonathan Shepard]

Something needs to be fixed. As many others have stated, this only seems to happen with Me3. Plenty of other online games don't have nearly this many disconnects.

[Sammorbai]

Dracian wrote...

I am totally against that petition. Why ? Farming. Here's the method (for a gold game, idk about credit gain in platinium) :

1. Go to wave on gold.
2. Complete the objective. Gain 9k.
3. Host unplugs internet cable. Everyone is disconnected, wave is reset.
4. Previous host plug internet cable and join friends in the game.
5. Go back to step 2.

9k credits every 3 minutes or 180k an hour. Some people can do that easily, I'll admit it, but imagine what it would be on wave 10 gold with 4 Infiltrators and a 4 devices objectives : 35k every 3 minutes or 700k an hour.

That's why I'm completely against... And that's why I hope you'll be convinced. I admit it, it's a pain in the azz to be disconnected on wave 10 gold, but the system right now is good because it prevents to much exploits, the only flaw being EA servers...

True, dishonest people could do such a dishonest thing.  However, they wouldn't be able to do it for long before getting the banhammer.  Connecting/disconnecting to a server is, from the server's standpoint, the biggest, most blatantly obvious thing you could possibly do.  If a group of people were to use the above trick, they'd pretty much be writing "WE ARE CHEATING" in blazing, fifty-foot-high letters for anyone who took so much as a cursory glance at the server logs.  In fact, using the above trick might be such an incredibly obvious maneuver that Bioware could write a program that autobans anyone who uses said exploit.

As for the petition, signed.

[Das Rouse]

Thoragoros wrote...

Benny8484 wrote...

I play Left 4 Dead, League of Legends, Day Z, Company of Heroes, Starcraft 2, Mount & Blade Warband, online daily.  Absolutely no issues.  This only happens with Mass Effect 3, so I can say with 100% certainty there is something going on on Bioware's end.

I also play a bunch of online games, including a couple of MMOs, and I can say that ME3 is -- by far -- the buggiest of the lot.  Random disconnects.  Unfixed bugs since launch, and consistent server issues. 

If I wasn't so in love with the ME universe, I would have left this game a long time ago.

This.  If it wasn't for how much I really like ME in general, I would have stopped playing a long time ago.  I would really like this fixed so I honestly play the game, have fun and make some more friends.  The last weekend was fun when helping those make an extraction on gold vs. reapers, not fun when this happens.  I think this also impacts the results in weekend challenges.

[AnchorJG]

Absolutely signed.

[shadowkinz]

i belieeeeve i can siiiiiiiign, i beliEEVe EA wAAAstes my tiiiime. I DCed many nights and dayssss, logged out and moped awayyyyy

SIGNED BOSS, SIGNED.

[SoulWeaver]

shadowkinz wrote...

i belieeeeve i can siiiiiiiign, i beliEEVe EA wAAAstes my tiiiime. I DCed many nights and dayssss, logged out and moped awayyyyy

SIGNED BOSS, SIGNED.

yeah +1 on this

[xabkish]

I'd give it 6 stars if I could. I've been DCed or the game crashed for no aaparent reason for so many times now I can't even count. It happened just now, on wave 9 of Platinum. It's frustrating as hell.

[Sabbatine]

If you don't work for Bioware, this petition isn't an official anything.

[quack123]

Signed, i have lost 20000 credits in the past two days due to this.

[Volatile Device]

/signed

Alan Wake, Dead Island, Call of Duty, Endwar, Skyrim, and Saint's Row 3 virtually never freeze/disconnect. In Mass Effect 3, it's a stroke of luck to get through two games before a freeze or disconnect. Something's wrong with this game and their servers, compensate us somehow.

[Richter09_3D]

josehinojos wrote...

I say we should open up another thread and just type our origin IDs like a signature on a petition so bioware and mostly us can see how many people are affected by this. I just worry trolls will screw it up.

How about if I start a poll which people can vote on to show if they are for or against this (or abstain from voting)?

[bydoritos]

YES, I'm tired of going all the way through wave 10 in gold difficulty, just to get my connection with EA lost message. is really annoying losing everything.

[Benny8484]

Richter09_3D wrote...

josehinojos wrote...

I say we should open up another thread and just type our origin IDs like a signature on a petition so bioware and mostly us can see how many people are affected by this. I just worry trolls will screw it up.

How about if I start a poll which people can vote on to show if they are for or against this (or abstain from voting)?

Lets get it rolling.  I imagine the community all feels the same on this issue.  Spending 19 minutes playing & getting disconnected right before wave 10 objective completion needs to be addressed.  EA servers are completely unstable atm.  Had another game today where I got disconnected around wave 8...its just getting old.

Then I went back to playing my other online games, no issues whatsoever.

[pmi0126]

/signed

But I don't see this happening. Christ forbid EA not get their cash from microtransactions.

[Emissary_of_Pain]

/signed ... ... happened during 4 gold matches and a platinum to me ... all on wave 10\\extraction

[Richter09_3D]

Benny8484 wrote...

Richter09_3D wrote...

josehinojos wrote...

I say we should open up another thread and just type our origin IDs like a signature on a petition so bioware and mostly us can see how many people are affected by this. I just worry trolls will screw it up.

How about if I start a poll which people can vote on to show if they are for or against this (or abstain from voting)?

Lets get it rolling.  I imagine the community all feels the same on this issue.  Spending 19 minutes playing & getting disconnected right before wave 10 objective completion needs to be addressed.  EA servers are completely unstable atm.  Had another game today where I got disconnected around wave 8...its just getting old.

Then I went back to playing my other online games, no issues whatsoever.

Link for the poll: http://social.biowar...29/polls/37434/

Modifié par Richter09_3D, 27 juillet 2012 - 06:42 .

[wantsumcandii]

/signed

[Flambirex]

Signed.

[xavim]

Would love this but do I see it working out? No not really or at least for awhile but again would love to see this.

[omgnarahax]

I agree for a change to made as well. I sadly live in the land before time(a joke about the boonies obv.) and my internet provider is to put it nicely garbage and randomly disconnects on a whim. It's a great waste of time to get so far into a match, have it go out and lose 220 minutes of my life :/