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[Gedgehog]

Now, usually this fight wouldn't be such a problem, but on Insanity it becomes almost impossible.
Kai Leng himself seems fairly easy to handle, and I don't it so much when other Cerberus troops show up to help him, however we do have one absolute game breaker, and that is in the form of the last group of reinforcements to spawn through the ceiling.
This final group contains two Phantoms. Now, Phantoms are annoying, but not impossible to deal with if you have adaquate cover and time enough to focus on them, bringing down their barriers and then wacking them as quickly as possible. This boss fight doesn't provide ample time to do such a thing, and heres why.

On Insanity, the Phantoms gun, can take down my shields in more or less one shot. The next shot will take my health down to the final bar, and the shot after that is an obvious kill. What makes this worse, is that this little gun is rapid fire. Now, usually as I mentioned above, I counter this with cover. But in this situation, two Phantoms appear, and instantly start shooting at me, and they never miss. All the while, I have Kai leng charging at me as well. Now, I'm an Engineer, so placing a turret and a drone on the field would be a logical idea, however in this instance, these assets are almost always ignored by the Phantoms.
As soon as this wave appears, I last less than a second, as both Phantoms use their guns at the same time. If I switch down the difficulty level, I lose my Insanity achievement.
How is this boss fight even possible on Insanity? If I am killed in the first couple of seconds of this wave, how is it even possible to do it? How did you guys do it? 

If I was feeling cheaterific, I'd simply Gibb editor my health temporarily to something like 90,000, so that this would be a simple win for me, but this kinda defies the point.

[LtAdams2247 Origin]

I had Reave as a biotic bonus power from Kaidan (I think). So I just spammed that on both the phantoms and the anime dude whilst trying to stay away as far as possible from them (they seemed to be more focused on Liara and EDE as targets) and shooting the troopers. They were eventually reaved to death. Took me a few tries though.

[YIRAWK]

I played a vanguard on my insanity playthrough, very easy to beat as a vanguard. Charge then use nova for invincibility frames.

[RedCaesar97]

Here's how I did it with my Engineer (skip to 11:24). Squadmates were EDI and Ashley. I am using as much power damage armor as possible.

Shepard's Powers used:
Sabotage, specced for max damage and Tech Vulnerability
Overlead, specced for Damage-Recharge-Shields
Passive is specced for maximum power damage.

EDI's Overload (Damage-Recharge-Shields)
Ashelys's Disruptor Ammo and Concussive Shot (max damage)

I used the Viper Assault Rifle. I think Ashley uses the Revenant, and EDI the Tempest/Hornet or Carnifex/Scorpion.

My strategy was to tech bursts as often as possible:
Viper+Disruptor Ammo > Overload = Tech Burst
Sabotage > Overload = Tech burst

Also, you can:
Sabotage > Incinerate = tech burst (generally stronger than Overload on organics unless they still have shields)
Cryo Blast (specced for maximum incoming damage) > Incinerate (specced for Damage-Burning Damage-Frozen Vulnerability) = Cryo explosions

If you plan on using the Combat Drone (which is mostly pointless in single player), I like it specced for Explosive Drone-Shock Attack-Chain Lightning. That should cause it to distract enough targets in time for you to use Overload on someone nearby. If you can overload a target before the Drone explodes, it will create a tech burst. Very unreliable though in my opinion. You are better off ignoring it.

Modifié par RedCaesar97, 25 juillet 2012 - 04:25 .

[Nero Narmeril]

You are engineer, right? Maxed Overload with extra damages on barrier/shields (EDI would have it too) on Phantoms -> barriers gone -> Incinerate or Cryo Blast on them. You can also take Liara on this mission and put Stasis on Phantoms/Kai Leng.

[RedCaesar97]

Nero Narmeril wrote...

You are engineer, right? Maxed Overload with extra damages on barrier/shields (EDI would have it too) on Phantoms -> barriers gone -> Incinerate or Cryo Blast on them. You can also take Liara on this mission and put Stasis on Phantoms/Kai Leng.

Just a note that Phantoms are immune to being frozen by Cryo Blast (but I think it will slow them down) and Kai Leng is immune to Stasis, although he will avoid it so you can try to keep it between him and you.

[SeanBahamut]

I seem to remember beating the phatoms on insanity really easily with a combo of everyone's powers, they just went BOOM instantly.

[Rikketik]

I found the fight quite easy with my Infiltrator, but my Sentinel had a bit more trouble. One of the most important things to remember: make sure all powers, those of yourself and those of your squad members, are of their cooldowns when Kai-Leng charges for the last time. Then, when the Phantoms drop in, you can immediately zap them, with EDI's (chain) Overload for example, after which you can quickly take them down with your weapons, tech explosions, etc.

Also, you'll probably want to kill those Phantoms as quick as possible, but survival is even more important. So when your shields get taken down, stop with what you are doing and sprint to one of the other trenches. This will prevent one of the Phantoms or Kai-Leng from ambushing you and taking you down in one blow.

[Gedgehog]

Done it! Cheers guys. I'll be posting how I did it later.

[Tenkawa]

Just did it last night with my infiltrator (Energy Drain bonus) on insanity.
Squad was liara+EDI.

I ran, cloak, ED, EDI overload, rinse and repeat. When his shields were down and the troops dropped in, EDI decoy, Liara singularity. Cloak shoot shoot shoot, reload, cloak shoot.

Run, cloak, ED, EDI overload, rinse and repeat. Same thing again for the troops.
Run, cloak, ED, EDI overload, rinse and repeat. Phantoms drop. Liara Status on left phantom, EDI decoy, cloak shoot shoot, liara stasis on 2nd phantom, cloak shoot shoot.
Run, cloak, ED, EDI overload, rinse and repeat. Cloak, shoot shoot, EDI overload, dead.

Hardest part of the entire mission was going up the last ladder by the reaper.  That first phantom caused me probs because my power wheel didn't come up immediately.  Once I got it, statis and shoot, no problem.

Now on to Earth for the final two, and the final two acheivements.

Modifié par Tenkawa, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:51 .

[Yrian96]

it is easy use adept/sentinel and a falcon or geth plasma shotgun, the you go ahead and stagger the fantoms so that you can warp bomb them (warp+throw combo). If you are a sentinel simply spam overload on Kai Leng, if you are an adept use the warp throw combo there aswell it's actually not that hard at all