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[Megakoresh]

 I've been replaying all of the Dragon Age games in the last month (even dragged myself through DA 2, believe it or not) and I realized that despite DA2 being a lot inferior to Origins (note, it's still a sound game, but compared to Origins it's very dull), it gives a lot more closure and leaves a lot less questions unanswered.

It perhaps has to do with me having a lot less interest in DA2's plot, but it still feels like Origins looks upon a sequel a lot more than DA2. I personally am very interested in having all those characters from origins back in the party (Save, maybe Sten and Wynne, those were boring) and I really want to know what really happened on the other side of the Eluvian and "Change to the dimension" (play "the Witch Hunt to see what I am talking about).

There are a lot of things happening in Ferelden that could use a major explanation and can be tied into the sequel with players taking a great interest.

And the stuff Morrigan says at the end of the "Witch Hunt" hints at a possible sequel centered around whatever she meant. So can anyone say? What will the next Dragon Age game offer? An expansion upon Hawk's whereabouts or will we be able to continue the story of the hero of the Ferelden?

This doesn't necessarily mean continue the story of the old protagonists. Hawk was boring and, as sad as it is, the Grey Warden is probably dead. But importing a save game from either one of those games and explaining what happened after the events of Witch Hunt/brining back some those awesome characters, that is what's important.

Oh damn, it just occurred to me that it could be completely unrelated to either. Andraste's ******, I hope not.

PS: I hope this is an appropriate section. I don't think any of that are spoilers, do you?

Someone posted this excellent idea, that i think everyone should see, I hope the poster won't be mad at me for quoting it here:

King Killoth wrote...

I think the best possible story is to play as a new wardend charged with finding the warden comander and hawke. this allows the game to take place over all the map and being a warden gives you that specail athority option. it would make the story about finding the compaions of both hawke and the warden comander. all wail the mage templar war is rageing around you. this also fits into gathering compaions of your own some even former compaions of the warden and hawke that ask to join the new warden. it as a story point allows for the first two stories to be told to new players to the DA franchise aswel as tieing in both save game stories arching over from DAO and DA2 so your actions from both games are carried over to the new but seen from a new point of veiw.

Modifié par Megakoresh, 28 juillet 2012 - 09:49 .

[AkiKishi]

DA played its hand too early. Nothing existing is really more interesting than that Blight/Grey Wardens. It's the DA version of the Reapers.
It's like going from playing a Jedi to playing a Nerf Herder.

Hawke is just dull and the Warden has too many variations.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 25 juillet 2012 - 01:27 .

[Wulfram]

Origins story is pretty thoroughly concluded, if you didn't do the Dark Ritual.

edit:  DA3 will have a new protagonist, if you didn't know.

Modifié par Wulfram, 25 juillet 2012 - 01:43 .

[Androme]

Spoilers inbound:

I too hope DA3 will give us some continuity, or best yet, integrate the fates and agendas of the Warden (if alive), Morrigan, Flemeth, Alistair and Leliana into the main DA3 storyline.

[M_Kirkwall]

It's just wishful thinking. It's obvious that DA 3 is gonna be Mages vs. Templars(blood mages, to be precise). Because everything points to that way. Kirkwall tragedy, White Spire, and what happened at Val Royeaux. Blood mages are getting out of control.

Modifié par rev0n, 25 juillet 2012 - 02:33 .

[wsandista]

Neither.

[JasonPogo]

It will be a whole new story line with just some tie ins to the old games. They have been saying back since Origins came out that Thedas is the real main character and they just want to tell dif storys from around the world. So every game in the DA world will have a new main character.

Modifié par JasonPogo, 25 juillet 2012 - 08:24 .

[Uccio]

I find the Warden/Blight/Deep Roads/Morrigan/GodChild storyline much MUCH more interesting than Hawke/mage-templar issue.

Modifié par Ukki, 25 juillet 2012 - 10:10 .

[coles4971]

While I've been able to move on from the Warden (despite the fact he/she's awesome), if the Templar/Mage storyline is just going to be more LOL BLOODMAGES, then give me a goddamn superblight instead, I'd rather play that.

[Cimeas]

Yeah Templars vs. Mages is quite frankly boring.

[PhillyB]

Cimeas wrote...

Yeah Templars vs. Mages is quite frankly boring.

It works much better as a side story. I'm surprised that they dragged it out for a full game.

[Megakoresh]

Androme wrote...

Spoilers inbound:

I too hope DA3 will give us some continuity, or best yet, integrate the fates and agendas of the Warden (if alive), Morrigan, Flemeth, Alistair and Leliana into the main DA3 storyline.

That would probably be a good idea. Those characters are the most interesting (and Shale too, the stone comedian is harious). I am glad to see they are at least not rushing it. I mean, let's be honest here, DA2 was ruined by EA rushing the release, and not BioWare. You don't make a Dragon Age game in a year.

I sincierly hope it won't boil down to something as mundaine as Templars VS Blood magic. For those that have completed the Witch hunt, it is obvious there is something interesting and unexplained that can very well be the foundation for the next storyline.

Whatever we say now will likely not have any effect, since the development is heavily underway already. I created this thread to get some answers, more than anything else, but a civil discussion is always welcome.

Modifié par Megakoresh, 25 juillet 2012 - 09:50 .

[Fallstar]

The protagonist will be a new PC, but the story will most likely feel like a DA2 sequel with the mage/templar war, at least initially. After that it's anyone's guess.

[MKDAWUSS]

wsandista wrote...

Neither.

What he said.

The only hanging thread that the Warden has left can be shifted to the other involved participants, letting him exit stage left.

As for Hawke, you'll probably be hearing more about what her companions contributed to the current state of affairs.

[Fallstar]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Neither.

What he said.

The only hanging thread that the Warden has left can be shifted to the other involved participants, letting him exit stage left.

As for Hawke, you'll probably be hearing more about what her companions contributed to the current state of affairs.

Asides from Anders' surprise, Hawke's companions don't really contribute a great deal to the world as a whole. We're far more likely to meet a Warden/King Alistair again, or whatever Morrigan does in Eluvian land, or whatever Leliana is doing working for the divine, or meet our Sten in some battle with the Qunari, or Zevran if the crows are involved etc. All we know about our DA2 companions is they scattered, plus whatever happens in the dark horse comics.

[Warden661]

I liked DA2 but it always seemed like more of a prequal to what is coming next rather then a direct sequal to DA:O. It's like "There is a huge mage vs. templar war years after the Blight and this is the story of how that got underway." So now they have that story line which I think they might drag out for at least 2, maybe 3, games with the new PC that they're introducing in the next instalment.

I want to know more about Morrigan's ritual baby but I would want it to kind of be a side story from the main plot. This is because if they made it into a main story line then Morrigan would have to have the baby regardless of whether the ritual was performed in Origins. Bioware would have to pull a "Oh you thought that happened, well you see what really happened was..." deal. I'm not a huge fan of those. If it's a side plot I could see it being a situation of her plan A didn't work so now she has to resort to plan B.

I feel like we'll see more of Hawke rather then the Warden if we see the Warden at all. Hawke is more relevent to the mage vs. templar story line then the Warden is. Even if the Warden is in the game I fear that Bioware won't portray him/her the way I remember him/her in my DA:O story line. Especially considering he/she was mute in DA:O.

This is all just my own personal speculation and hopes.

[devSin]

DA3 is going to be the conflict between the Chantry and the mage circles. It won't feature the Warden or Hawke in any meaningful capacity (I really wanted more time with Hawke, sadly).

But you will apparently figure out what the heck all the skittish Grey Wardens from DA2 are up to.

[Direwolf0294]

Cimeas wrote...

Yeah Templars vs. Mages is quite frankly boring.

I find it a much more interesting story/setting than the cliche evil guys who call themselves Darkspawn. Not that I didn't like the Darkspawn, but the interesting thing about them wasn't the Darkspawn themselves but how people reacted to the threat. With the mage vs templar conflict I think that not only will it be interesting to see how the different main characters, factions and normal citizens react to it but the war itself is a more compelling story than what was basically a zombie/demon invasion in DA:O.

[Dave of Canada]

Assuming we're heading to Orlais, we've got a new protagonist possibly involved in...

• Orlesian Civil War
• Chantry Civil War
• Circle Rebellion
• Orlesian enemies possibly involving themselves
• Morrigan
• (unlikely) Tevinter Magisters and the Black City
• Kal-Sharok

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 26 juillet 2012 - 01:56 .

[Mike3207]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Neither.

What he said.

The only hanging thread that the Warden has left can be shifted to the other involved participants, letting him exit stage left.

As for Hawke, you'll probably be hearing more about what her companions contributed to the current state of affairs.

It's a pretty big thread if your Warden was King Cousland-I don't think that can be shifted to anyone else.

[Dave of Canada]

King Cousland is treated like solo-Anora with a few extra lines, it doesn't have to change from there.

[SnakeStrike8]

I hope it's a new character.
The Warden's an old codger by now, likely rotting away in some forgotten Deep Roads tunnel surrounded by darkspawn, and Hawke's going to be remembered forever as 'Anders' accomplice'.
Neither option sound appealing to me as the foreman for DA 3.

[Melca36]

they already said the Wardens would always have a presence in the game

[TEWR]

Cimeas wrote...

Yeah Templars vs. Mages is quite frankly boring.

It's not so much that it's boring then it is that Bioware really doesn't know how to do this type of story for a video game. Or so I'm led to believe based on what I saw when I played DAII.

If you go off of DAII's incarnation of it which was an unmitigated disaster of proportions best not gone into detail, then it's just going to be a "I really don't see why I should play this type of story".

If you go off of how Asunder or even Broken Circle portrayed it, then it becomes interesting. The trick is to take what Asunder and Broken Circle did and apply it to the main story of a video game.

Problem being with BC, they ruined the moral ambiguity of the choice, so they also need to learn from the flaws it had.

If DAIII's Mage-Templar War is anything like DAII's depiction of the conflict, then I really don't think there's any hope. Not because it's boring, but because no effort was really put into it. As a result, it just plain sucks.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 26 juillet 2012 - 07:29 .

[LolaLei]

Neither the Warden or Hawke. Apparently it'll be a new protagonist. I dare say we will hear about them in passing though.