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[Megakoresh]

LolaLei wrote...

Neither the Warden or Hawke. Apparently it'll be a new protagonist. I dare say we will hear about them in passing though.

I am not too disappointed at the new protagonist. What I (and I am sure most you) care about are the characters from Origins which were, let's be honest, a lot better than DA2. Namely Alistair, leliana and Morrigan. Those were the most interesting (though I did prefer Leliana from the DLC more, seems like a more lively personality model). If they do end up in DA3 as companions (well, not so likely for Alistair), that is good enough, I suppose, though continuing the Warden's story would be more interesting.

No game or DLC yet explained the thing Morrigan was talking about, I hope DA3 will.

Modifié par Megakoresh, 26 juillet 2012 - 05:22 .

[Knight of Dane]

Morrigan predicted the mage rebellion, no need for a DLC to explain that.

[thats1evildude]

I don't think Morrigan's prediction was limited to the Mage Rebellion, though that was likely part of it. She just said that "change is coming to the world." That could go a lot farther than the Mage/Templar schism.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 26 juillet 2012 - 08:51 .

[Fallstar]

As well as what she said about Flemeth, and what happened in the Eluvian, why she needed an Eluvian, the whole OGB thing (if you did it). There's loads of unanswered questions.

[fchopin]

If we do get a DA3 then i hope it has nothing to do with Hawke or the Warden but a different story independent of the other games.

[JasonPogo]

Well I think it is safe to say the next game will most def be about the civil war and mage-templar war in Orlais. Just read David Gaiders last book to see that. But I do have to say the story could be amazing if we get a reql depiction of each side this time. In DA 2 it was all BLOODMAGE!!!! And Templars who want to extermenate all mages. But if you get into the actual lore and Davids last book most of the Templars are decent people doing what they think is best for everyone even the mages themselves. And they need to show us that not every gash darn mage dose not go crazy and turn to bloodmagic and demons.

[fchopin]

I am not interested in books about dragons, if i wanted to read a book i would read The Time Machine.

I want to play a game not read a book to find out what the game will be like.

[Androme]

Megakoresh wrote...

 For those that have completed the Witch hunt, it is obvious there is something interesting and unexplained that can very well be the foundation for the next storyline.

Now, this. This is so very very true indeed, if they simply abandon that and try to ''appeal'' to a ''wider'' and ''new'' audience, by abandoning that and going for a very easily understandable Templars vs Blood Magic (new) story just so that people ''doesn't'' have to play DAO and DA2 to understand DA3, I will be so ridicilously furious.

[Megakoresh]

fchopin wrote...

I am not interested in books about dragons, if i wanted to read a book i would read The Time Machine.

I want to play a game not read a book to find out what the game will be like.

I agree. Dragon Age is primarily a game franchise, not a book. Even Witcher 2 was only based on the book's lore and not the actual storyline, much less Dragon Age.

Whatever they have decided it is not something we can influence, at least not to the scale of of the storyline basis. Morrigan's story, however, must have explanation. And brining back the characters from Origins is certain to be a good move.

I actually haven't even seen any annoucements as to when and where might we get any news on the new DA game, no release date, presentation or anything. Only rumours.

Androme wrote...
if they simply abandon that and try to ''appeal'' to a ''wider'' and ''new'' audience, by abandoning that and going for a very easily understandable Templars vs Blood Magic (new) story

 

I could not POSSIBLY agree more to this. I hope they learned from Mass Effect 3 that this is NEVER a good way to make games. The last thing anyone will want to do is spit into fan's faces because of trying to appeal to a wider audience. If this is the case with Dragon Age 3, then, well I don't even want to think about it.

Modifié par Megakoresh, 26 juillet 2012 - 04:46 .

[Alyka]

fchopin wrote...

If we do get a DA3 then i hope it has nothing to do with Hawke or the Warden but a different story independent of the other games.

This.
Although, I would like some characters from both previous games being mentioned and/or showing up for quests.Maybe have one or two as a companion.

[seraphis01]

Megakoresh wrote...

 I've been replaying all of the Dragon Age games in the last month (even dragged myself through DA 2, believe it or not) and I realized that despite DA2 being a lot inferior to Origins (note, it's still a sound game, but compared to Origins it's very dull), it gives a lot more closure and leaves a lot less questions unanswered.

It perhaps has to do with me having a lot less interest in DA2's plot, but it still feels like Origins looks upon a sequel a lot more than DA2. I personally am very interested in having all those characters from origins back in the party (Save, maybe Sten and Wynne, those were boring) and I really want to know what really happened on the other side of the Eluvian and "Change to the dimension" (play "the Witch Hunt to see what I am talking about).

There are a lot of things happening in Ferelden that could use a major explanation and can be tied into the sequel with players taking a great interest.

And the stuff Morrigan says at the end of the "Witch Hunt" hints at a possible sequel centered around whatever she meant. So can anyone say? What will the next Dragon Age game offer? An expansion upon Hawk's whereabouts or will we be able to continue the story of the hero of the Ferelden?

Oh damn, it just occurred to me that it could be completely unrelated to either. Andraste's ******, I hope not.

PS: I hope this is an appropriate section. I don't think any of that are spoilers, do you?

Agreed wtih you here.

I love both games really...... of course DA  is a epic game  the best.

i would like see a a new character (with voice please) and see orlais... and because i dont like the way  or style ( read : they really sucks doing this ) that Bioware put the end a theirs characters ( ejem ME3) leave my hawke and warden alone   and living 

[Shadowvalker]

Hawke might move into the vacant cage at the edge of Lothering.
He deserves no less with the inteligens he showed us in DA 2. So NO new HERO of that kind - PLEASE!

[BubbleDncr]

New story, with a new protagonist.

That said, I'm hopeful Hawke will, at the very least, be mentioned a fair amount (since people seem to blame her for the world getting to its current state - hence why Cassandra's asking Varric about her). I'm even more hopefully Hawke will make an appearance, as either a cameo or party member, since, in theory, she's all set up to do so - has a model, voice, personality (diplomatic, witty, or aggressive), and class/specialization.

Warden will probably only be mentioned as, "I wish that awesome Hero of Ferelden was around to save us all. Guess we're stuck with (insert DA3 protagonist here)"

[dsl08002]

i would love to play once again my warden because even after the witch hunt dlc where i didn´t follow morrigan because my LI was leliana i felt that it was going to be more adventures.

and after DA2 i thought that it was going to be a adventure where my warden adn hawke team up to stop the civil war.

Unlike Hawke who was a pre set character the warden was MY character, i created that figure and decided the personality. ( thank you bioware for those conversations, they were astonishing)

and also all characters from origin was well written and the story as well, it would be much simpler to use origins story as a template.

the best solution for everyone is that they give you the option to choose in the beginning who you would play as.

The warden, hawke or new character.

IF someone can do this than its bioware and no one else

[JasonPogo]

The warden is gone forever people. DA2 ran dif graphics remember how horrible Alistair and Zevran looked in DA2? And that was with the dev team tweeking them. Now try and think how bad your Warden would have looked on the new graphics? DA3 will prob run on new graphics yet again. So your Warden is long gone. The only way they could show up is will a helm or hood on the whole time.

Modifié par JasonPogo, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:08 .

[Wulfram]

I expect Mages vs Templars is intended to be an ongoing setting element, rather than necessarily the main plot of the next game.

[Megakoresh]

Androme wrote...

Spoilers inbound:

I too hope DA3 will give us some continuity, or best yet, integrate the fates and agendas of the Warden (if alive), Morrigan, Flemeth, Alistair and Leliana into the main DA3 storyline.

Couldn't put it better myself.

[philippe willaume]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Cimeas wrote...

Yeah Templars vs. Mages is quite frankly boring.

It's not so much that it's boring then it is that Bioware really doesn't know how to do this type of story for a video game. Or so I'm led to believe based on what I saw when I played DAII.

If you go off of DAII's incarnation of it which was an unmitigated disaster of proportions best not gone into detail, then it's just going to be a "I really don't see why I should play this type of story".

If you go off of how Asunder or even Broken Circle portrayed it, then it becomes interesting. The trick is to take what Asunder and Broken Circle did and apply it to the main story of a video game.

Problem being with BC, they ruined the moral ambiguity of the choice, so they also need to learn from the flaws it had.

If DAIII's Mage-Templar War is anything like DAII's depiction of the conflict, then I really don't think there's any hope. Not because it's boring, but because no effort was really put into it. As a result, it just plain sucks.

you are not wrong there bro

[philippe willaume]

Megakoresh wrote...

Androme wrote...

Spoilers inbound:

I too hope DA3 will give us some continuity, or best yet, integrate the fates and agendas of the Warden (if alive), Morrigan, Flemeth, Alistair and Leliana into the main DA3 storyline.

Couldn't put it better myself.

thirded

[chuckwells62]

The 800 lb gorilla of Thedas is that Dragon Age:Origins left us with some really strong, tangible in-story elements that remain incompleted (Morrigan, Flemeth, OGB). Lest we forget, their whole Mage/Templar/Chantry fiasco known as "Exalted March" was scuttled by Bioware itself. Additionally, further dlc for Dragon Age 2 was decisively canned. Basing major portions of the third Dragon Age franchise game around content from the second game (which sold less well than the original, to the extent that the company ****-canned their own in-process expansion) would be disastrous for a gaming company dealing with ongoing fan outrage across a variety of franchised products. We'll have to wait and see of course, but I would lay real odds in Vegas that if they tilted back towards the original game that helped make their industry reputation (DA:O), the results would speak for themselves.

If nothing else, Darrah and Gaider aren't Casey Hudson, and that is a nice start!

Modifié par chuckwells62, 27 juillet 2012 - 02:39 .

[King Killoth]

I think the best possible story is to play as a new wardend charged with finding the warden comander and hawke. this allows the game to take place over all the map and being a warden gives you that specail athority option. it would make the story about finding the compaions of both hawke and the warden comander. all wail the mage templar war is rageing around you. this also fits into gathering compaions of your own some even former compaions of the warden and hawke that ask to join the new warden. it as a story point allows for the first two stories to be told to new players to the DA franchise aswel as tieing in both save game stories arching over from DAO and DA2 so your actions from both games are carried over to the new but seen from a new point of veiw.

[Megakoresh]

King Killoth wrote...

I think the best possible story is to play as a new wardend charged with finding the warden comander and hawke. this allows the game to take place over all the map and being a warden gives you that specail athority option. it would make the story about finding the compaions of both hawke and the warden comander. all wail the mage templar war is rageing around you. this also fits into gathering compaions of your own some even former compaions of the warden and hawke that ask to join the new warden. it as a story point allows for the first two stories to be told to new players to the DA franchise aswel as tieing in both save game stories arching over from DAO and DA2 so your actions from both games are carried over to the new but seen from a new point of veiw.

Oh thats awesome idea! How come I havent thought of that!? If they would actually make this to be, this would be great! They should hire you to be their script writer! This kind of idea just allows to many various possibilities without creating any incosistencies in the plot.

That would need to be put in the OP, with your permission.

Modifié par Megakoresh, 27 juillet 2012 - 09:11 .

[Zukota]

Megakoresh wrote...

King Killoth wrote...

I think the best possible story is to play as a new wardend charged with finding the warden comander and hawke. this allows the game to take place over all the map and being a warden gives you that specail athority option. it would make the story about finding the compaions of both hawke and the warden comander. all wail the mage templar war is rageing around you. this also fits into gathering compaions of your own some even former compaions of the warden and hawke that ask to join the new warden. it as a story point allows for the first two stories to be told to new players to the DA franchise aswel as tieing in both save game stories arching over from DAO and DA2 so your actions from both games are carried over to the new but seen from a new point of veiw.

Oh thats awesome idea! How come I havent thought of that!? If they would actually make this to be, this would be great! They should hire you to be their script writer! This kind of idea just allows to many various possibilities without creating any incosistencies in the plot.

That would need to be put in the OP, with your permission.

Agreed, though I am beginning to get a little tired of  a new lead character each game, this is an excellent idea.

I would however like to play as my Warden again; I don't care if I have to re-do his face to compensate for new graphics or stick with a specific voice, (one voice actor for male and one for female) I just want some closure on several of the extra plots. Hawke was a fun character, but I felt more restricted in my actions as him. I would love a game with the number of dialog options of DA:O but with the knowledge of tone in DA2, I hate saying something that I would mean sarcastically and have the Warden say it seriously and vice versa.

Maybe in the fourth game they could let us choose to play as one of the three and have us resolve things as that character with their companions. That could let us see events play out differently with each lead's personality and status playing into other's reactions.

[jbrand2002uk]

TBH I found DA2 companions far more interesting than any of DAO's Alistair's humour was funny at first but soon became rather grinding talking to Sten was like trying to talk to a Vorlon(Babylon 5),Wynne was far more interesting in the books than the games and Morrigan's "I hate everyone" EMO attitude became tiresome by the midpoint and the same could be said of Zevran's "flirt with anything that has a pulse" attitude, As for Anders he seemed like Alastair but with a ponytail.

As for the OGB i could really give a monkeys the only reason i choose the Dark Ritual is because all the other endings are flat out rubbish.
I dont really care for playing a Warden again either the so much more to Thedas than "The Wardens"

[Megakoresh]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

TBH I found DA2 companions far more interesting than any of DAO's Alistair's humour was funny at first but soon became rather grinding talking to Sten was like trying to talk to a Vorlon(Babylon 5),Wynne was far more interesting in the books than the games and Morrigan's "I hate everyone" EMO attitude became tiresome by the midpoint and the same could be said of Zevran's "flirt with anything that has a pulse" attitude, As for Anders he seemed like Alastair but with a ponytail.

As for the OGB i could really give a monkeys the only reason i choose the Dark Ritual is because all the other endings are flat out rubbish.
I dont really care for playing a Warden again either the so much more to Thedas than "The Wardens"

Somehow I doubt that this kind of opinion is very popular