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[XfrontlineX]

I'm just getting back into dragonage and wanted to make a DW warrior. What is the best way in doing this? i read that reaver is good to pick, but what about my other specialization? For attributes, what should i do about them? I'm just trying to get a better understanding of DW war's because i have never tried them before. By the way i wanted to play on nightmare. Any suggestions?

[actionhero112]

Double Dagger warriors are probably the best, they attack faster, actually doing more damage than you would think. Weapon enchants, poisons and runes are not scaled down with increasing attack speed, so if you plan to auto some of the time, I would go with dual daggers. Also the better penetration bonuses.

If you want burst damage by activating a lot of talents, I would go for two full sized weapons, as they do more base damage.

usually I'll get enough str to wear the armor I want, then just pump dexterity. No con, as dex is just superior. Not getting hit is better than getting hit after all. Willpower only needs points if you want to activate a lot of talents with full sized weapons.

I usually go Champion/Berserker on Hard and Nightmare difficulty. I like reaver, it's just I don't like dying early game, and Champion helps with that. (War Cry and Rally are amazing)

Modifié par actionhero112, 25 juillet 2012 - 04:06 .

[XfrontlineX]

Double daggers definitely sounds like a better choice for me, but i read a couple different places that champion/reaver was actually pretty good on higher difficulties.

[actionhero112]

Yeah, its a really high survivability build considering how good Frightening appearance, and Devour is.

You'd be surprised what kind of enemies are susceptible to the horror effect granted by Frightening Appearence.

I'll leave it up to you. Matter of preference I suppose.

Modifié par actionhero112, 25 juillet 2012 - 04:28 .

[XfrontlineX]

Yeah ill try ir out, hopefully it works out for me, thanks for the help man.

[Blazomancer]

XfrontlineX wrote...

I'm just getting back into dragonage and wanted to make a DW warrior. What is the best way in doing this? i read that reaver is good to pick, but what about my other specialization? For attributes, what should i do about them? I'm just trying to get a better understanding of DW war's because i have never tried them before. By the way i wanted to play on nightmare. Any suggestions?

I'll tell you my way of playing the DW warrior, best done with another party member tanking. I use two full sized weapon (Starfang+Keening Blade) although you can use dual daggers(more so with the dex hotfix) which is equally viable with high dex. You'll have to depend on Heavier armors for survival, and use talents like crazy (otherwise what's the point, go for a 2H warrior instead) for the lack of backstabs and stealth, especially so if you are not bringing along a tank. No tank means you'll probably go head on with the enemies most of the time.

You can use precise striking, momentum and buff haste(once) without triggering the speed bug.

Stats:
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Cap Dex at 36 for DW Mastery, Will high enough (about 30 base) to use talents frequently and for a few sustainables, Constitution about 20 base or whatever you are comfortable with, and pump everything else into Strength. You can replace one sword with Veshialle, Bloodline, whatever you like.

Specs:
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Reaver is less useful as we are not tanking. Berserker is the best one for this build for boosting the damage even further.  Decide between Champion and Templar. Since you'll be making quick strikes spamming all of your talents, you can actually drain mana quite an amount from an enemy mage. But then there are better ways to handle mages. Champion can boost your survivality with warcry and your attack and defense rating with rally but remember these AOE effects will draw aggro towards you; so unless your tank is doing his/her job, you'll get surrounded pretty soon. Keep 'Disengage' handy.

This build can kill things very fast with high damage output, but due to less dex you'll be getting hit a lot. But then you'll have the best massive armor sets equipped. Even then you'll be screwed real bad if your tank sucks. Set your tank to use Threaten, Taunt, War Cry, Rally, Shield Bash, as often as possible and keep the bad guys busy while you punish them, cripple them, or whatever.

But if you are not bringing a tank along, better go with the dex build.

[actionhero112]

Be noted that Rogues actually do the dual full sized weapon build better, because of their class skills and specializations. Duelist's pinpoint striking really outclasses anything warrior specs have to offer, also the attack bonus from dueling is a welcome one. Ranger is the next spec, and that's always a good spec with the damage generated by pets. Rogues also draw less threat (20%!) Evasion helps when dealing with the threat you generate.

though for warriors that spam talents, I wouldn't get massive armor yeah? No point in drawing a lot of the threat when you can't handle it.

Reasserting that Dual Daggers do the most damage for warriors though.

Modifié par actionhero112, 26 juillet 2012 - 01:35 .

[Blazomancer]

@actionhero - Since the OP mentioned playing in nightmare, i suggested using massive armor, as in nightmare, armor rating has absolutely nothing to do with threat. Regardless in lower difficulties, everything except light armor has the same bonus for initial threat table addition.

The notion that daggers do the most damage for warriors is not correct in my opinion, unless in a few cases when all we are doing is autoattacking.

A strength based DW warrior wielding two full sized weapons will have a huge amount of raw damage output because of the higher attribute modifier and higher base damage. The things that are going in favour of daggers is the attack speed and AP. Since my build is going to spam talents anyway, the attack speed really doesn't matter; even then a good autoattack speed can be achieved with (precise striking)+(momentum)+(haste or blood thirst). And considering the large amount of damage dished out, 2-3 point of lesser armor penetration is really not a concern.

Dagger's 50% dependence on dex and 50% on str (fixed as of patch 1.04) makes both builds viable. But a dagger's 0.85 attribute modifier in comparision to a sword's 1.00 means less damage from the cummulative points of dex and str. Daggers more than make up for this with their vastly superior attack speed, but my build is centred around using talents unaffected by the speed modifier. And a warrior can't possibly dream of having a high critical chance like a rogue, therefore stacking +X% critical/backstab equipment is not much of a reliable option.

Modifié par Blazomancer, 26 juillet 2012 - 03:21 .

[XfrontlineX]

autoattacking with daggers is what i want to do, so what skills should i pick up for that build?

[Lemina Ausa]

actionhero112 wrote...

Be noted that Rogues actually do the dual full sized weapon build better, because of their class skills and specializations. Duelist's pinpoint striking really outclasses anything warrior specs have to offer, also the attack bonus from dueling is a welcome one. Ranger is the next spec, and that's always a good spec with the damage generated by pets. Rogues also draw less threat (20%!) Evasion helps when dealing with the threat you generate.

though for warriors that spam talents, I wouldn't get massive armor yeah? No point in drawing a lot of the threat when you can't handle it.

Reasserting that Dual Daggers do the most damage for warriors though.

Just a question, if you play awakening, does the spirit warrior spec make 2 full sized weapons for warriors better than 2 full sized weapons for rogues?

[termokanden]

Yes. Spirit warrior is so overpowered that if you collect the right gear (+spirit dam) and use curses to debuff your target, there is just no way a rogue could ever reach the kind of damage you'll be dealing.

Doesn't mean rogues are bad though. Far from it.

[Doriath]

With beyond the veil and berserk, a DW warrior can reach insane damage levels in Awakening. Check this out www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par chrisnabal, 11 août 2012 - 09:44 .

[Doriath]

Modifié par chrisnabal, 11 août 2012 - 09:41 .

[termokanden]

Ahem. I meant hexes, not curses.

I did play a gnome warlock for years