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[Imortalfalcon]

I'll give it 9 Nope's out of 10.

[Dimlor]

WeAreLegion- wrote...

[Kalas Magnus]

sobbos wrote...

People place maxed out gear and equipment on a class, spec it out for weapon damage, THEN present 'evidence' it's OP. The gun on a different class, with no equipment, and no gear would be insanely under powered in comparison.

The people who want balance will never understand this concept because their kind only look at it maxed out and on classes that benefits from the combination.

Milk ninja. We played a few platinum games with bio pre-buff you know how broken this gun is. At times I doubled your score htting 240k. You were using the krysae that should tell you something. I'm saying you are a good player but this weapon is too powerful. 

I use it on all my classes. Unlike the claymore which I never use without amps this gun is so good I never need them. It is lightweight so it is the best option even for casters. In the higher difficulties everything is looking to melee you so distance is never an issue. 
Now that locust that is an insanely underpowered weapon even with max amps and on a GI.

Modifié par Kalas321, 26 juillet 2012 - 01:30 .

[Lord Rosario]

godlike13 wrote...

All increasing its weight would do i make it useless for Vanguards, while it remains unhindered for Soldiers and Infiltrators. Thing is suppose to be light, its meant for lighter-bodied species.

I'd beg to differ. I think it is much more attuned to heavy classes like Soldiers and the like. Seems like something that is made to rip through hoards of husks like tissue paper wasn't intended for special ops type characters that rely on biotics and grenades that can already cut through husks like tissue paper.

[Father_Jerusalem]

death_for_sale wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

sobbos wrote...

People place maxed out gear and equipment on a class, spec it out for weapon damage, THEN present 'evidence' it's OP. The gun on a different class, with no equipment, and no gear would be insanely under powered in comparison.

The people who want balance will never understand this concept because their kind only look at it maxed out and on classes that benefits from the combination.

Milk ninja. We played a few games with bio pre-buff you know how broken this gun is. At times I doubled your score htting 240k. You were using the krysae that should tell you something. I'm saying you are a good player but this weapon is too powerful. 

I use it on all my classes. Unlike the claymore which I never use without amps this gun is so good I never need them. It is lightweight so it is the best option even for casters. In the higher difficulties everything is looking to melee you so distance is never an issue. 
Now that locust that is an insanely underpowered weapon even with max amps and on a GI.

Thank you for being truthful. Many others so far have not been, but you were brave enough to stand up.

"Thank you for being truthful, and by "truthful", I mean "agreeing with my position"."

[TheSevered]

I use it on my Paladin as a boss killer, and I still think it's pretty tedious to take them down. Not to mention extremely boring for me and me poor dead teammates to watch me kite two Banshee's around when there's still two more sets of them waiting to spawn after them.

I don't think it's fair to the other classes to nerf the gun just because a couple classes do exceedingly well with it. Especially when you're using high strung consumable equipment to take it to an even higher level.

It's a new guns so yes, a lot of people are using it.

[smyss]

Zardoc wrote...

[Rebel_Raven]

TheSevered wrote...

I use it on my Paladin as a boss killer, and I still think it's pretty tedious to take them down. Not to mention extremely boring for me and me poor dead teammates to watch me kite two Banshee's around when there's still two more sets of them waiting to spawn after them.

I don't think it's fair to the other classes to nerf the gun just because a couple classes do exceedingly well with it. Especially when you're using high strung consumable equipment to take it to an even higher level.

It's a new guns so yes, a lot of people are using it.

I agree completely.

It's about the only gun worth using on bosses that doesn't demolish a power user's cooldowns.

Powers don't work on bosses all that well, if at all, so power users could really use the help.

[godlike13]

Lord Rosario wrote...

godlike13 wrote...

All increasing its weight would do i make it useless for Vanguards, while it remains unhindered for Soldiers and Infiltrators. Thing is suppose to be light, its meant for lighter-bodied species.

I'd beg to differ. I think it is much more attuned to heavy classes like Soldiers and the like. Seems like something that is made to rip through hoards of husks like tissue paper wasn't intended for special ops type characters that rely on biotics and grenades that can already cut through husks like tissue paper.

The N7 Piranha is an assault shotgun designed for the Reaper war. When the N7 program began training alien resistance forces, the lighter-bodied species wanted a low-recoil weapon with a wide pellet spread for dealing with husks. The result was the Piranha, which hit a sweet spot in close-range firepower. Its rapid-fire capability tears apart not only husks, but most opponents unlucky enough to be in its way.

Its intended to be a light shotgun. All increasing its weight does is take it out of Vanguards, and the lighter-bodied species, hands.

Modifié par godlike13, 26 juillet 2012 - 01:53 .

[LegionofRannoch]

piranna is fine the way it is, no more nerfs, just because one gun outdoes another doesnt mean it needs a nerf. it has a great rate of fire that the claymore does not. its accuracy is supposed to be for short range as is the claymore. the only way to do as much damage as possible is with smart choke taking up a slot for mods where as the claymore does not need the mod at all. the pirana with smartchoke has a distance advanage over the claymore because of smart choke but thats because your using the mod to do that sacrificing penetration or dmg.
nerfers are just bored with the game and want a challenge and by doing that are ruining the other players experience in multiplayer. either that or they always want to be top scorer after the match because there using a gun there comfortable with refusing to use other guns, but thats what the game is about. buying packs for a chance to get other or better guns. this is the same intellect that missle glitchers have. why even play the game if your not using any guns you unlocked, its just stupid in my opinion.

[Xx_Belzak_xX]

SR2O wrote...

[SSPBOURNE]

Bioware I'm enjoying your game too much please fix this.

[bigkahuna077]

Something needs done I can agree with that but one gets the feeling that it will be another (this weapon is not really viable any longer) nerf. The weapon needs nerfed just not nerfed into the ground, I'm on the nerf its ROF if anything line of thinking with the weapon.

[Father_Jerusalem]

death_for_sale wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

sobbos wrote...

People place maxed out gear and equipment on a class, spec it out for weapon damage, THEN present 'evidence' it's OP. The gun on a different class, with no equipment, and no gear would be insanely under powered in comparison.

The people who want balance will never understand this concept because their kind only look at it maxed out and on classes that benefits from the combination.

Milk ninja. We played a few games with bio pre-buff you know how broken this gun is. At times I doubled your score htting 240k. You were using the krysae that should tell you something. I'm saying you are a good player but this weapon is too powerful. 

I use it on all my classes. Unlike the claymore which I never use without amps this gun is so good I never need them. It is lightweight so it is the best option even for casters. In the higher difficulties everything is looking to melee you so distance is never an issue. 
Now that locust that is an insanely underpowered weapon even with max amps and on a GI.

Thank you for being truthful. Many others so far have not been, but you were brave enough to stand up.

"Thank you for being truthful, and by "truthful", I mean "agreeing with my position"."

No, I mean being willing to stand up and tell us honestly that the gun is overpowered, instead of either sitting back with the hopes of not being castigated by the forum or saying that it isn't overpowered so you can keep exploiting it to lessen the challenge of more difficult levels.

Exactly like I said. Go play with your Predator 1 if everything in the game is too "easy" for you. Believe it or not, this game is not, and should not be, balanced around you personally.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

This gun is only overpowered in the imaginary world where you stand there unloading full clips at close range while enemies just stand still and watch you without returning fire. I'm not sure which Gold and Platinum games the nerfers are playing in, but the games I play don't afford you the luxury of standing out in the open like this, where you can apparently very easily achieve your maximum DPS without taking damage yourself.

death_for_sale wrote...

I never
said it should be balanced around me. But it should be balanced so that
one weapon does not make the entire game EZ mode for everyone. The
Krysae was the last weapon that was like that and the Piranha is the new
one.

"EZ mode for everyone"?  Are you kidding?  You're comparing a gun that will land shots from across the map if you aim anywhere in the general vicinity of a target to one that only works at close range and requires considerable aim for all enemies that aren't super-sized, especially if every pellet is going to hit.  This comparison is just plain silly.

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 26 juillet 2012 - 02:12 .

[its THAT guy]

Here's the thing I don't understand about people crying about this thing's damage.
People, what's wrong with this weapon having the highest dps in the game??? SO WHAT??
There's bound to always be ONE weapon that takes the spot, maybe before it was the claymore, or the harrier. Now it's the piranha. So friggen WHAT? It's a DECENT weapon, not too overpowered with its wide pellet spread, and definetly not in the weak-sauce category like so many other weapons are in this game. Now, you want to go and take this awesomesauce weapon, and turn it into the next falcon? Da fuq is wrong with you people? Dear God, next you're all gonna want to nerf the Typhoon 'cuz its got insane firepower, or the claymore since it does SOOOOOO much damage, so we can all be running around with friggen eagles. Maybe THAT will make you damn nerfers happy. Damn....

[Muhkida]

death_for_sale wrote...

I never said it should be balanced around me. But it should be balanced so that one weapon does not make the entire game EZ mode for everyone. The Krysae was the last weapon that was like that and the Piranha is the new one.

The Krysae pre nerfs >>>>> Piranha of now.  Try mauling a Banshee with that shotgun 30 meters away

[Major Durza]

Quit using it on a damn GI or Destroyer. It's drawback is its accuracy. If you use every accuracy buff in the game, then of COURSE it is going to be powerful.

And for the last time, stop making caster classes so vunerable! I see a LOT fewer casters nowadays, because to use a decent weapon you have to SLASH your cooldown!

The Piranha is a CQC shotgun, and it is good at it. Its predecessor is the Scimitar, and tell me how frequently that is used.

Quit going to the most powerful accuracy, damage, and clip buffs in the game and say "SEE, WITH ALL THIS ON THIS THING IS OP!" When used with a Moderate character, it is good. It is good, but not OP. I do NOT want the Piranha to be useless on my Paladin, thank you very very much.

[Rebel_Raven]

death_for_sale wrote...
 I never said it should be balanced around me. But it should be balanced so that one weapon does not make the entire game EZ mode for everyone. The Krysae was the last weapon that was like that and the Piranha is the new one.

I don't believe it's easy mode for everyone. People have to get close to what they're shooting at if they're not one of the few classes that can turn the Pirahna into a goose gun that can snipe across the map or whatever.

It just gives classes like Asari Justicar, FQE, Shadow, and the sort a decent means of fighting armored bosses while being able to use their powers. It's also a decent means that can pierce cover. REALLY REALLY handy vs guardians who're largely immune to everything from the front, including shadow strike in more cases than not as they'll turn around.

An inability to fight guardians worth a damn is why I can't use the Geth shotgun comfortably.

And it's still gunna be a pain fighting at range effectively with it. You need a secondary weapon. Sure they have long reaching powers, but powers can be dodged, or could be deadly to the user in cases like Biotic Charge, or Shadow Strike where you're potetially appearing in the middle of a spawn.

Honestly, it's frustrating to find a good weapon for a caster that can suppliment powers, and be viable against bosses.

Modifié par Rebel_Raven, 26 juillet 2012 - 02:16 .

[cerberus1701]

death_for_sale wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

sobbos wrote...

People place maxed out gear and equipment on a class, spec it out for weapon damage, THEN present 'evidence' it's OP. The gun on a different class, with no equipment, and no gear would be insanely under powered in comparison.

The people who want balance will never understand this concept because their kind only look at it maxed out and on classes that benefits from the combination.

Milk ninja. We played a few games with bio pre-buff you know how broken this gun is. At times I doubled your score htting 240k. You were using the krysae that should tell you something. I'm saying you are a good player but this weapon is too powerful. 

I use it on all my classes. Unlike the claymore which I never use without amps this gun is so good I never need them. It is lightweight so it is the best option even for casters. In the higher difficulties everything is looking to melee you so distance is never an issue. 
Now that locust that is an insanely underpowered weapon even with max amps and on a GI.

Thank you for being truthful. Many others so far have not been, but you were brave enough to stand up.

"Thank you for being truthful, and by "truthful", I mean "agreeing with my position"."

No, I mean being willing to stand up and tell us honestly that the gun is overpowered, instead of either sitting back with the hopes of not being castigated by the forum or saying that it isn't overpowered so you can keep exploiting it to lessen the challenge of more difficult levels.

Exactly like I said. Go play with your Predator 1 if everything in the game is too "easy" for you. Believe it or not, this game is not, and should not be, balanced around you personally.

I never said it should be balanced around me. But it should be balanced so that one weapon does not make the entire game EZ mode for everyone. The Krysae was the last weapon that was like that and the Piranha is the new one.

And after you're done with the Pirhana, it'll be the Saber

Then The Geth Shotty

Then the next one and the next.

Quite honestly, I'm waiting for you and your ilk to start calling for an Avenger nerf because it outclasses the Particle Rife.

I expect that within 3 months it'll take the combined fire of all 4 players to take down a Centurion.

It's not the weapons that are sucking the fun out of this game and rendering it slowly but inexorably unplayable.

It's the whiners like yourself.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Threads like this aren't going to get the Piranha nerfed. Everyone using it all time will.