Aller au contenu

Piranha balance thread - Lower DPS or RoF or Clip Size or increase Weight


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
1320 réponses à ce sujet

#851
Kyerea

Kyerea
  • Members
  • 1 265 messages
[quote]Javo2357 wrote...

[quote]Acekilleriii wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]Ashen Earth wrote...

[quote]heybigmoney wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

I'll be uploading a platinum reaper wave and 3 waves of a reaper gold as time allows. Bear in mind that banshees are a bit harder to kill than atlas's (atlii? lol). Links will be in the main post. Also, bear in mind that while I can solo gold, i've not tried to solo plat and my recording program lags everything I do, so it's a bit sloppy.[/quote]

Keep in mind that using a weapons platform is not going to help your point.  Don't use weapons platforms, or level III/IV consumables.

[/quote]

Lol wut?  You mean, don't play the game like you normally would?  Might as well ask him to play with one hand while you're at it.


[/quote]


Using a weapon on a class like the GI or Destroyer isn't going to prove a weapon is OP, only that the weapon is OP in the hands of said classes.

I dominated a Reaper Gold game a few hours ago using a GI with a PPR and Incendiary Ammo IV, but the PPR is hardly OP.
[/quote]

I was wondering when you'd find this thread Ash. :wub:

[/quote]

I do not think Ashen's point can be emphasized enough.  You have yet to counter that jab, Death.

[/quote]

It would appear that I will have to level up one of my casters and make a 3rd video to counter it. Once I do, will that change your mind, honestly?

I'm not doing it tonight though, uploading these takes a long time and I need sleep.

[/quote]

As long as you are showcasing the Piranha, and not your massive skill with said class/powers you should be alright.

[/quote]

As I've stated before, I don't have massive skill. I would say that I am slightly above average, but not a top tier player like GP. Just because I can solo Gold does not make me skilled.

[/quote]

Can an average player solo Gold?  I do not think so.  I am well above your average PUG and I have not soloed Gold yet.

[/quote]

Come one Come all! Prepare to ride the Quote Train! B)

[/quote]

ALL ABOARD!!! :wizard:

[/quote]

"Hi folks, this is your train conductor. It seems we've run into some issues, apparently MagLev trains are too efficient and they've been nerfed. We've gone back to coal and would appreciate some volunteers for coal-shoveling duty. Thank you for riding the Quote Train folks, sit back and enjoy the crawl."

Modifié par Kyerea, 26 juillet 2012 - 08:50 .


#852
3XT3RM1N4TUS

3XT3RM1N4TUS
  • Members
  • 2 443 messages
[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]Javo2357 wrote...

[quote]Acekilleriii wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]Ashen Earth wrote...

[quote]heybigmoney wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

I'll be uploading a platinum reaper wave and 3 waves of a reaper gold as time allows. Bear in mind that banshees are a bit harder to kill than atlas's (atlii? lol). Links will be in the main post. Also, bear in mind that while I can solo gold, i've not tried to solo plat and my recording program lags everything I do, so it's a bit sloppy.[/quote]

Keep in mind that using a weapons platform is not going to help your point.  Don't use weapons platforms, or level III/IV consumables.

[/quote]

Lol wut?  You mean, don't play the game like you normally would?  Might as well ask him to play with one hand while you're at it.


[/quote]


Using a weapon on a class like the GI or Destroyer isn't going to prove a weapon is OP, only that the weapon is OP in the hands of said classes.

I dominated a Reaper Gold game a few hours ago using a GI with a PPR and Incendiary Ammo IV, but the PPR is hardly OP.
[/quote]

I was wondering when you'd find this thread Ash. :wub:

[/quote]

I do not think Ashen's point can be emphasized enough.  You have yet to counter that jab, Death.

[/quote]

It would appear that I will have to level up one of my casters and make a 3rd video to counter it. Once I do, will that change your mind, honestly?

I'm not doing it tonight though, uploading these takes a long time and I need sleep.

[/quote]

As long as you are showcasing the Piranha, and not your massive skill with said class/powers you should be alright.

[/quote]

As I've stated before, I don't have massive skill. I would say that I am slightly above average, but not a top tier player like GP. Just because I can solo Gold does not make me skilled.

[/quote]

Can an average player solo Gold?  I do not think so.  I am well above your average PUG and I have not soloed Gold yet.

[/quote]

Come one Come all! Prepare to ride the Quote Train! B)

[/quote]

ALL ABOARD!!! :wizard:

[/quote]

"Hi folks, this is your train conductor. It seems we've run into some issues, apparently MagLev trains are too efficient and they've been nerfed. We've gone back to coal and would appreciate some volunteers for coal-shoveling duty. Thank you for riding the Quote Train folks, sit back and enjoy the crawl.[/quote]
Just quoted to continue the Pyramid.

#853
Major Durza

Major Durza
  • Members
  • 1 913 messages

death_for_sale wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

I will be using it on a caster class with consumables that are readily available to any player of this game. If this does not meet with your approval, make your own video.


You really don't get it do you? Your conditions are not considered agreeable. The whole point of your videos is to prove to others that the Pirahna is OP (unless you're just doing this for attention and/or digital credit), if the conditions are disagreed upon, there's no point in doing a video.

If you want to prove that it's overpowered, then no equipment is to be taken, as to make the method re-enactable in a widespread area. A scientist doesn't use his "special concoction" during an experiment to prove that <insert compound here> is volatile, as that nullifies the whole point of the experiment. Either don't put any equipment on, or don't bother with the video, you won't prove anything, except that you are stubborn and refuse to make a fair test, possibly because you know you are incorrect, possibly not. Doesn't matter.


I've been incredibly fair. These are items available to everyone. I was told the spread is horrible, I showed that was incorrect. I was told I needed to show videos, so I did them. I've been accused of faking results by multiple people, received very hurtful messages from other people on this forum, and been called any number of names without resorting to being hateful back to people.

As I said earlier, feel free to make a video showing how terrible the gun is. I know that 3 out of 4 players I am playing with on Gold and Platinum are using it fairly exclusively. I use it myself on everything because it makes the game much easier. When those stats roll in, the weapon is going to be killed like the Krysae, it is inevitable unless we take a smaller hit now.


You slanted the everloving heck out of your "test"
You showed how accurate it is by using a class that boosts its accuracy
You showed how quickly it fires by using the Rate of Fire evo on destroyer mode
You used AP ammo to show its ammo shredding capabilities
You used every shotgun amp available in the game to showcase its power.
You also used it on the closest range map on the game.

So, are you saying that it needs to be mediocre with Every. Possible. Buff. In. The. Game?
So what happens to your average player that does not have loads of Shotgun amps and AP ammo and wants to use it on a class that does not buff the crap out of it?

If this needs a nerf, it needs a very, VERY light nerf.  It and the Typhoon can be turned to garbage with a slight change of stats, this thing is treading dangerous water.  It is either really good, or it is garbage.  With this gun, there is very little in-between.

Modifié par Major Durza, 26 juillet 2012 - 08:54 .


#854
Kyerea

Kyerea
  • Members
  • 1 265 messages
[quote]3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]Javo2357 wrote...

[quote]Acekilleriii wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]Ashen Earth wrote...

[quote]heybigmoney wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

I'll be uploading a platinum reaper wave and 3 waves of a reaper gold as time allows. Bear in mind that banshees are a bit harder to kill than atlas's (atlii? lol). Links will be in the main post. Also, bear in mind that while I can solo gold, i've not tried to solo plat and my recording program lags everything I do, so it's a bit sloppy.[/quote]

Keep in mind that using a weapons platform is not going to help your point.  Don't use weapons platforms, or level III/IV consumables.

[/quote]

Lol wut?  You mean, don't play the game like you normally would?  Might as well ask him to play with one hand while you're at it.


[/quote]


Using a weapon on a class like the GI or Destroyer isn't going to prove a weapon is OP, only that the weapon is OP in the hands of said classes.

I dominated a Reaper Gold game a few hours ago using a GI with a PPR and Incendiary Ammo IV, but the PPR is hardly OP.
[/quote]

I was wondering when you'd find this thread Ash. :wub:

[/quote]

I do not think Ashen's point can be emphasized enough.  You have yet to counter that jab, Death.

[/quote]

It would appear that I will have to level up one of my casters and make a 3rd video to counter it. Once I do, will that change your mind, honestly?

I'm not doing it tonight though, uploading these takes a long time and I need sleep.

[/quote]

As long as you are showcasing the Piranha, and not your massive skill with said class/powers you should be alright.

[/quote]

As I've stated before, I don't have massive skill. I would say that I am slightly above average, but not a top tier player like GP. Just because I can solo Gold does not make me skilled.

[/quote]

Can an average player solo Gold?  I do not think so.  I am well above your average PUG and I have not soloed Gold yet.

[/quote]

Come one Come all! Prepare to ride the Quote Train! B)

[/quote]

ALL ABOARD!!! :wizard:

[/quote]

"Hi folks, this is your train conductor. It seems we've run into some issues, apparently MagLev trains are too efficient and they've been nerfed. We've gone back to coal and would appreciate some volunteers for coal-shoveling duty. Thank you for riding the Quote Train folks, sit back and enjoy the crawl.[/quote]
Just quoted to continue the Pyramid.

[/quote]

But... it's the Quote Train... not a pyramid...

;______;

#855
Ashen One

Ashen One
  • Members
  • 8 238 messages

Pitznik wrote...

Seriously, why he wouldn't use consumables? Consumables are supposed to be used, that half people on Gold doesn't use them at all is a whole different problem.


If a weapon is only worth using when used with consumables, it's definitely not OP.

#856
Acekilleriii

Acekilleriii
  • Members
  • 284 messages
[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]Javo2357 wrote...

[quote]Acekilleriii wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]Ashen Earth wrote...

[quote]heybigmoney wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

I'll be uploading a platinum reaper wave and 3 waves of a reaper gold as time allows. Bear in mind that banshees are a bit harder to kill than atlas's (atlii? lol). Links will be in the main post. Also, bear in mind that while I can solo gold, i've not tried to solo plat and my recording program lags everything I do, so it's a bit sloppy.[/quote]

Keep in mind that using a weapons platform is not going to help your point.  Don't use weapons platforms, or level III/IV consumables.

[/quote]

Lol wut?  You mean, don't play the game like you normally would?  Might as well ask him to play with one hand while you're at it.


[/quote]


Using a weapon on a class like the GI or Destroyer isn't going to prove a weapon is OP, only that the weapon is OP in the hands of said classes.

I dominated a Reaper Gold game a few hours ago using a GI with a PPR and Incendiary Ammo IV, but the PPR is hardly OP.
[/quote]

I was wondering when you'd find this thread Ash. :wub:

[/quote]

I do not think Ashen's point can be emphasized enough.  You have yet to counter that jab, Death.

[/quote]

It would appear that I will have to level up one of my casters and make a 3rd video to counter it. Once I do, will that change your mind, honestly?

I'm not doing it tonight though, uploading these takes a long time and I need sleep.

[/quote]

As long as you are showcasing the Piranha, and not your massive skill with said class/powers you should be alright.

[/quote]

As I've stated before, I don't have massive skill. I would say that I am slightly above average, but not a top tier player like GP. Just because I can solo Gold does not make me skilled.

[/quote]

Can an average player solo Gold?  I do not think so.  I am well above your average PUG and I have not soloed Gold yet.

[/quote]

Come one Come all! Prepare to ride the Quote Train! B)

[/quote]

ALL ABOARD!!! :wizard:

[/quote]

"Hi folks, this is your train conductor. It seems we've run into some issues, apparently MagLev trains are too efficient and they've been nerfed. We've gone back to coal and would appreciate some volunteers for coal-shoveling duty. Thank you for riding the Quote Train folks, sit back and enjoy the crawl.[/quote]
Just quoted to continue the Train

[/quote]

But... it's the Quote Train... not a pyramid...

;______;

[/quote]

Fixed! :o

#857
kevchy

kevchy
  • Members
  • 1 264 messages
I've just watched your video.

You might as well rename your video "Gears are OP"

You can get similar results with just about all the top-tier weapons with gear mods added. You did not address how it has made the Piranha OP. I suggest making a video where you did not use any gear and compare it with gears added.

#858
RonnyB

RonnyB
  • Members
  • 310 messages
My opinion on the vid. I've seen the claymore take out brutes as fast or faster. This is probably because you can also see how even though sometimes brutes are right in his face... the nature of firing + recoil + spread + trying to avoid enemies prevents him from centering his shot correctly. The seems to contradict what he asserted before that getting all the pellets on a brute isn't a problem. The only place that might hold true is a Turian Soldier and maybe the Geth.

Edit: You can also see the insane danger he puts himself in trying to get close enough to put optimal spread contact on those banshees.

Modifié par RonnyB, 26 juillet 2012 - 08:59 .


#859
StrawHatMoose

StrawHatMoose
  • Members
  • 3 125 messages

Ashen Earth wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Seriously, why he wouldn't use consumables? Consumables are supposed to be used, that half people on Gold doesn't use them at all is a whole different problem.


If a weapon is only worth using when used with consumables, it's definitely not OP.


QFT Ashen Earth, QFT.

#860
Guest_death_for_sale_*

Guest_death_for_sale_*
  • Guests

Major Durza wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

I will be using it on a caster class with consumables that are readily available to any player of this game. If this does not meet with your approval, make your own video.


You really don't get it do you? Your conditions are not considered agreeable. The whole point of your videos is to prove to others that the Pirahna is OP (unless you're just doing this for attention and/or digital credit), if the conditions are disagreed upon, there's no point in doing a video.

If you want to prove that it's overpowered, then no equipment is to be taken, as to make the method re-enactable in a widespread area. A scientist doesn't use his "special concoction" during an experiment to prove that <insert compound here> is volatile, as that nullifies the whole point of the experiment. Either don't put any equipment on, or don't bother with the video, you won't prove anything, except that you are stubborn and refuse to make a fair test, possibly because you know you are incorrect, possibly not. Doesn't matter.


I've been incredibly fair. These are items available to everyone. I was told the spread is horrible, I showed that was incorrect. I was told I needed to show videos, so I did them. I've been accused of faking results by multiple people, received very hurtful messages from other people on this forum, and been called any number of names without resorting to being hateful back to people.

As I said earlier, feel free to make a video showing how terrible the gun is. I know that 3 out of 4 players I am playing with on Gold and Platinum are using it fairly exclusively. I use it myself on everything because it makes the game much easier. When those stats roll in, the weapon is going to be killed like the Krysae, it is inevitable unless we take a smaller hit now.


You slanted the everloving heck out of your "test"
You showed how accurate it is by using a class that boosts its accuracy
You showed how quickly it fires by using the Rate of Fire evo on destroyer mode
You used AP ammo to show its ammo shredding capabilities
You used every shotgun amp available in the game to showcase its power.
You also used it on the closest range map on the game.

So, are you saying that it needs to be mediocre with Every. Possible. Buff. In. The. Game?
So what happens to your average player that does not have loads of Shotgun amps and AP ammo and wants to use it on a class that does not buff the crap out of it?


I used it on Glacier because it is the map I solo on typically. I am going to make a third video to address RoF and Accuracy buffs. On the Gold video I am uploading I removed the shotgun permanent gear to make it faster to get to wave 3, this should address some of the concerns towards amp damage.

It does not need to be mediocre, but it does need to be balanced.

#861
Mad Scientist

Mad Scientist
  • Members
  • 123 messages
Also, OP I would like to point out, as other posters have, that you are CLUELESS and should refrain from proposing anymore "balance suggestions". Nerfing clip size, ROF or increasing weight would make Piranha useless, or at very least make a completely different gun, filling a different role - not what it was designed to be. Maybe you should leave the balancing to the people who know what they're doing - Bioware.

#862
HammerFists

HammerFists
  • Members
  • 94 messages

Ashen Earth wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Seriously, why he wouldn't use consumables? Consumables are supposed to be used, that half people on Gold doesn't use them at all is a whole different problem.


If a weapon is only worth using when used with consumables, it's definitely not OP.



#863
Guest_death_for_sale_*

Guest_death_for_sale_*
  • Guests

StrawHatMoose wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Seriously, why he wouldn't use consumables? Consumables are supposed to be used, that half people on Gold doesn't use them at all is a whole different problem.


If a weapon is only worth using when used with consumables, it's definitely not OP.


QFT Ashen Earth, QFT.


^^^

#864
Kyerea

Kyerea
  • Members
  • 1 265 messages

Major Durza wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

I will be using it on a caster class with consumables that are readily available to any player of this game. If this does not meet with your approval, make your own video.


You really don't get it do you? Your conditions are not considered agreeable. The whole point of your videos is to prove to others that the Pirahna is OP (unless you're just doing this for attention and/or digital credit), if the conditions are disagreed upon, there's no point in doing a video.

If you want to prove that it's overpowered, then no equipment is to be taken, as to make the method re-enactable in a widespread area. A scientist doesn't use his "special concoction" during an experiment to prove that <insert compound here> is volatile, as that nullifies the whole point of the experiment. Either don't put any equipment on, or don't bother with the video, you won't prove anything, except that you are stubborn and refuse to make a fair test, possibly because you know you are incorrect, possibly not. Doesn't matter.


I've been incredibly fair. These are items available to everyone. I was told the spread is horrible, I showed that was incorrect. I was told I needed to show videos, so I did them. I've been accused of faking results by multiple people, received very hurtful messages from other people on this forum, and been called any number of names without resorting to being hateful back to people.

As I said earlier, feel free to make a video showing how terrible the gun is. I know that 3 out of 4 players I am playing with on Gold and Platinum are using it fairly exclusively. I use it myself on everything because it makes the game much easier. When those stats roll in, the weapon is going to be killed like the Krysae, it is inevitable unless we take a smaller hit now.


You slanted the everloving heck out of your "test"
You showed how accurate it is by using a class that boosts its accuracy
You showed how quickly it fires by using the Rate of Fire evo on destroyer mode
You used AP ammo to show its ammo shredding capabilities
You used every shotgun amp available in the game to showcase its power.
You also used it on the closest range map on the game.

So, are you saying that it needs to be mediocre with Every. Possible. Buff. In. The. Game?
So what happens to your average player that does not have loads of Shotgun amps and AP ammo and wants to use it on a class that does not buff the crap out of it?



*Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding*

AND WE HAVE A WINNER FOLKS! BUT LET'S SEE WHAT OUR PANEL OF JUDGES THINK!

Judge 1 - /end thread

Judge 2 - /end thread

Judge 3 - /end thread


THERE YOU HAVE IT FOLKS, THE OP DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE BASIC FUNDAMENTALS OF EXPERIMENTS WORK. MAJOR DURZA HAS WON THE THREAD! JIM, TELL HIM WHAT HE'S WON!

Jim - "He's won the opinions of rational and logical players/posters! With an all-expense paid trip to BSNwinnerton, where all the great BSN posters go for a well-earned vacation from nerf threads and whine drama!"

#865
StrawHatMoose

StrawHatMoose
  • Members
  • 3 125 messages
Using certain character passives/abilities (MM, HM, Devastator Mode), Consumbles, Gear and Mods on a weapon to improve its performance does not mean that it is overpowered.
Obviously the OP is too stupid to understand that his "test" was not a fair one and he should not have hunter mode, gear and consumables on to improve accuracy and range. If you need a certain combination to make it good, like Ashen Earth said, it's not good in the first place.
Also, what if they don't have these mods/gear/characters/high level guns and mods like you do? You have full levelled gear/piranha and mods, as well as high level sondumables. Don't assume people have the same as you, because they don't. RNG. 
This thread is quite fail, and the OP has aids.

Modifié par StrawHatMoose, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:07 .


#866
Guest_death_for_sale_*

Guest_death_for_sale_*
  • Guests

Mad Scientist wrote...

Also, OP I would like to point out, as other posters have, that you are CLUELESS and should refrain from proposing anymore "balance suggestions". Nerfing clip size, ROF or increasing weight would make Piranha useless, or at very least make a completely different gun, filling a different role - not what it was designed to be. Maybe you should leave the balancing to the people who know what they're doing - Bioware.


That last part would indicate that I am not the only one who is clueless....

#867
HiGamerCAT

HiGamerCAT
  • Members
  • 284 messages

Major Durza wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

I will be using it on a caster class with consumables that are readily available to any player of this game. If this does not meet with your approval, make your own video.


You really don't get it do you? Your conditions are not considered agreeable. The whole point of your videos is to prove to others that the Pirahna is OP (unless you're just doing this for attention and/or digital credit), if the conditions are disagreed upon, there's no point in doing a video.

If you want to prove that it's overpowered, then no equipment is to be taken, as to make the method re-enactable in a widespread area. A scientist doesn't use his "special concoction" during an experiment to prove that <insert compound here> is volatile, as that nullifies the whole point of the experiment. Either don't put any equipment on, or don't bother with the video, you won't prove anything, except that you are stubborn and refuse to make a fair test, possibly because you know you are incorrect, possibly not. Doesn't matter.


I've been incredibly fair. These are items available to everyone. I was told the spread is horrible, I showed that was incorrect. I was told I needed to show videos, so I did them. I've been accused of faking results by multiple people, received very hurtful messages from other people on this forum, and been called any number of names without resorting to being hateful back to people.

As I said earlier, feel free to make a video showing how terrible the gun is. I know that 3 out of 4 players I am playing with on Gold and Platinum are using it fairly exclusively. I use it myself on everything because it makes the game much easier. When those stats roll in, the weapon is going to be killed like the Krysae, it is inevitable unless we take a smaller hit now.


You slanted the everloving heck out of your "test"
You showed how accurate it is by using a class that boosts its accuracy
You showed how quickly it fires by using the Rate of Fire evo on destroyer mode
You used AP ammo to show its ammo shredding capabilities
You used every shotgun amp available in the game to showcase its power.
You also used it on the closest range map on the game.

So, are you saying that it needs to be mediocre with Every. Possible. Buff. In. The. Game?
So what happens to your average player that does not have loads of Shotgun amps and AP ammo and wants to use it on a class that does not buff the crap out of it?

If this needs a nerf, it needs a very, VERY light nerf.  It and the Typhoon can be turned to garbage with a slight change of stats, this thing is treading dangerous water.  It is either really good, or it is garbage.  With this gun, there is very little in-between.


Very beautifully said. Can't agree more. (as example) Yes Pirahna  can be good on TSo but i barely see any of Tso on the field (PC here) because they are clumbsy, tend to be squishy and few players know how to play wioth TSo properly...

#868
3XT3RM1N4TUS

3XT3RM1N4TUS
  • Members
  • 2 443 messages
[quote]Acekilleriii wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]Javo2357 wrote...

[quote]Acekilleriii wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]Ashen Earth wrote...

[quote]heybigmoney wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

I'll be uploading a platinum reaper wave and 3 waves of a reaper gold as time allows. Bear in mind that banshees are a bit harder to kill than atlas's (atlii? lol). Links will be in the main post. Also, bear in mind that while I can solo gold, i've not tried to solo plat and my recording program lags everything I do, so it's a bit sloppy.[/quote]

Keep in mind that using a weapons platform is not going to help your point.  Don't use weapons platforms, or level III/IV consumables.

[/quote]

Lol wut?  You mean, don't play the game like you normally would?  Might as well ask him to play with one hand while you're at it.


[/quote]


Using a weapon on a class like the GI or Destroyer isn't going to prove a weapon is OP, only that the weapon is OP in the hands of said classes.

I dominated a Reaper Gold game a few hours ago using a GI with a PPR and Incendiary Ammo IV, but the PPR is hardly OP.
[/quote]

I was wondering when you'd find this thread Ash. :wub:

[/quote]

I do not think Ashen's point can be emphasized enough.  You have yet to counter that jab, Death.

[/quote]

It would appear that I will have to level up one of my casters and make a 3rd video to counter it. Once I do, will that change your mind, honestly?

I'm not doing it tonight though, uploading these takes a long time and I need sleep.

[/quote]

As long as you are showcasing the Piranha, and not your massive skill with said class/powers you should be alright.

[/quote]

As I've stated before, I don't have massive skill. I would say that I am slightly above average, but not a top tier player like GP. Just because I can solo Gold does not make me skilled.

[/quote]

Can an average player solo Gold?  I do not think so.  I am well above your average PUG and I have not soloed Gold yet.

[/quote]

Come one Come all! Prepare to ride the Quote Train! B)

[/quote]

ALL ABOARD!!! :wizard:

[/quote]

"Hi folks, this is your train conductor. It seems we've run into some issues, apparently MagLev trains are too efficient and they've been nerfed. We've gone back to coal and would appreciate some volunteers for coal-shoveling duty. Thank you for riding the Quote Train folks, sit back and enjoy the crawl.[/quote]
Just quoted to continue the Train

[/quote]

But... it's the Quote Train... not a pyramid...

;______;

[/quote]

Fixed! :o


[/quote]
Thank you, my bad :(

#869
Hulk Hsieh

Hulk Hsieh
  • Members
  • 511 messages
How about making the accuracy bonus from power not working on shotguns?
A skilled marksman can fire a rifle/pistol more accurately, but how the pellets fly shouldn't be something controllable by skill.

Modifié par Hulk Hsieh, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:04 .


#870
Core_Commander

Core_Commander
  • Members
  • 716 messages

StrawHatMoose wrote...

Using Certain Characte passives/abilities (MM, HM, Devastator Mode)Consumbles, Gear and Mods on a weapon to improve its performance does not mean that it is overpowered.
Obviously the OP is too stupid to understand that his "test" was not a fair one and he should not have hunter mode, gear and consumables on to improve accuracy and range. If you need a certain combination to make it good, like Ashen Earth said, it's not good in the first place.

Yeah, it's not good. That's why it's used on every class, often with 2-3 people using it per game.

The truth is in the playing?

Modifié par Core_Commander, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:04 .


#871
GroverA125

GroverA125
  • Members
  • 1 539 messages

death_for_sale wrote...

I've been incredibly fair. These are items available to everyone. I was told the spread is horrible, I showed that was incorrect. I was told I needed to show videos, so I did them. I've been accused of faking results by multiple people, received very hurtful messages from other people on this forum, and been called any number of names without resorting to being hateful back to people.

As I said earlier, feel free to make a video showing how terrible the gun is. I know that 3 out of 4 players I am playing with on Gold and Platinum are using it fairly exclusively. I use it myself on everything because it makes the game much easier. When those stats roll in, the weapon is going to be killed like the Krysae, it is inevitable unless we take a smaller hit now.


I could write a thousand word essay on what's wrong with that post, but I honestly no longer care much for your opinion. Like I said before, use no mods to get a basic method. That is true and proper evidence to support your claim. Using mods voids that, like it or not.

#872
RonnyB

RonnyB
  • Members
  • 310 messages

Core_Commander wrote...

StrawHatMoose wrote...

Using Certain Characte passives/abilities (MM, HM, Devastator Mode)Consumbles, Gear and Mods on a weapon to improve its performance does not mean that it is overpowered.
Obviously the OP is too stupid to understand that his "test" was not a fair one and he should not have hunter mode, gear and consumables on to improve accuracy and range. If you need a certain combination to make it good, like Ashen Earth said, it's not good in the first place.

Yeah, it's not good. That's why it's used on every class, often with 2-3 people using it per game.

The truth is in the playing?


I don't know maybe because.. you know.. it's new? All the new weapons/characters get played to death for a long while after they come out before things even out again.

Modifié par RonnyB, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:06 .


#873
Kalas Magnus

Kalas Magnus
  • Members
  • 10 362 messages

Ashen Earth wrote...

Brb, posting a Javelin nerf thread because with Warp Ammo IV, Sniper Rail amp III, Sniper amp V, and PM debuff, on a GI specced for sniper damage, Geth weapon damage, and damage in HM I can wipe the floor with Reapers

shhh....they must never find out.

#874
Kyerea

Kyerea
  • Members
  • 1 265 messages
[quote]3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

[quote]Acekilleriii wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]Javo2357 wrote...

[quote]Acekilleriii wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]Kyerea wrote...

[quote]Ashen Earth wrote...

[quote]heybigmoney wrote...

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

I'll be uploading a platinum reaper wave and 3 waves of a reaper gold as time allows. Bear in mind that banshees are a bit harder to kill than atlas's (atlii? lol). Links will be in the main post. Also, bear in mind that while I can solo gold, i've not tried to solo plat and my recording program lags everything I do, so it's a bit sloppy.[/quote]

Keep in mind that using a weapons platform is not going to help your point.  Don't use weapons platforms, or level III/IV consumables.

[/quote]

Lol wut?  You mean, don't play the game like you normally would?  Might as well ask him to play with one hand while you're at it.


[/quote]


Using a weapon on a class like the GI or Destroyer isn't going to prove a weapon is OP, only that the weapon is OP in the hands of said classes.

I dominated a Reaper Gold game a few hours ago using a GI with a PPR and Incendiary Ammo IV, but the PPR is hardly OP.
[/quote]

I was wondering when you'd find this thread Ash. :wub:

[/quote]

I do not think Ashen's point can be emphasized enough.  You have yet to counter that jab, Death.

[/quote]

It would appear that I will have to level up one of my casters and make a 3rd video to counter it. Once I do, will that change your mind, honestly?

I'm not doing it tonight though, uploading these takes a long time and I need sleep.

[/quote]

As long as you are showcasing the Piranha, and not your massive skill with said class/powers you should be alright.

[/quote]

As I've stated before, I don't have massive skill. I would say that I am slightly above average, but not a top tier player like GP. Just because I can solo Gold does not make me skilled.

[/quote]

Can an average player solo Gold?  I do not think so.  I am well above your average PUG and I have not soloed Gold yet.

[/quote]

Come one Come all! Prepare to ride the Quote Train! B)

[/quote]

ALL ABOARD!!! :wizard:

[/quote]

"Hi folks, this is your train conductor. It seems we've run into some issues, apparently MagLev trains are too efficient and they've been nerfed. We've gone back to coal and would appreciate some volunteers for coal-shoveling duty. Thank you for riding the Quote Train folks, sit back and enjoy the crawl.[/quote]
Just quoted to continue the Train

[/quote]

But... it's the Quote Train... not a pyramid...

;______;

[/quote]

Fixed! :o


[/quote]
Thank you, my bad :(

[/quote]

GET ON THE QUOTE TRAIN! QUOTE TRAIN!

#875
HiGamerCAT

HiGamerCAT
  • Members
  • 284 messages
My question to OP (not trolling):

Do you accept that you might not be right? and be ok with losing in an argument? I am not suggesting you're wrong but since this is public forum some individuals do not like losing or being proven wrong and will fight tooth and nail to prove otherwise. Just something to think about..