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[ticklefist]

People, just stop. Once you come to the conclusion that something sucks all urges to think about it in a critical manner should be thrown out of the airlock.

[V-rcingetorix]

Point taken; but I have enjoyed going over the fictional physics of this game =D

Just hoping for DLC, either as fixes or as aftergame content :/

[dreman9999]

V-rcingetorix wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

V-rcingetorix wrote...

~snip~

With the emp concept. Think about this with the concept of an AI. wITH AN AI , programing and hard ware is their brain. Any delition of corruption to it would be like a lobotamy with organics. The question is how deep the affect is with synthtics or how effective the weapon is. What you brought up is a concept of  whether the attacks are truely that effective. With the plot , it's up to the writers . 

Control is more like an amplified version of the device legion used to have Shepard interact with the geth consensus. The question that is left is howmuch power is need to make an AI like the catalyst...That's also up to the writer.

Yes, an EMP would lobotomize an AI. However, it would not lobotomize completely, some data would be left behind. This is where the organic/synthetic comparison breaks down.

If a human undergoes lobotomy, a single unit of irreplaceable memories is lost. Not just the unique experiences, the unique genetic structure from which the data was gathered can not be replaced, and the experiences colored by that platform are gone. There is some data left, but getting that data is impossible, at least currently. Organic brains can't be wired up to a laptop and downloaded, defragged and re-uploaded with thought control for better performance.

A synthetic brain, on the other hand, can do that. I do not mean to say the "person" will be exactly like s/he was before, but s/he will have elements of what s/he had been before.

Example: a space shuttle Columbia was destroyed while coming home (takes brave people to be astronauts!). Much of the shuttle was destroyed, the hardware was heated, burned, slammed and exposed to the elements for prolonged periods of time.

However, some of the computer data was recovered, enough to help determine what happened.

Here's my comparison: a Space Shuttle computer has less capacity than a standard laptop. A current standard laptop is to a Geth as a solar calculator is to a laptop.

Granted, the Geth had potentially an EMP burst, but they did not ALL have re-entry problems. EDI may have caught the main part of the blast via her Reaper hardware, but the Geth only had software, and who knows what backup.

Final point. If data can be recovered from a primitive (by comparison) shuttle computer that has gone through a boatload of damage, why not a Geth which has not? An EMP does not physically burn things; channeling an EMP could, but the physical effect is limited to the vector, not the target. There are literally millions of Geth platforms, each with thousands of Geth code. Self-repair aside, it iw more than possible (to my line of thinking) that the separate codes could be brought together.

Isn't that what Admiral Zor'ah was doing in ME2? Taking blasted Geth parts and reconstructing the Geth?

Again, the issues your bring up is how affective it works. How affective it works is up to the writers. We are dealing the unknow detail. Spaculation on that will give any awnser.

[Grimwick]

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

[dreman9999]

Grimwick wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

Why?

[Grimwick]

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

Why?

So it's easier to make something which blows/deactivates all synthetic life (but distinguishes synthetic life from a simple computer) and includes every form of synthetic life, including symbiotic life such as the reapers... but it's suddenly harder to specifically target one race of sentient life/format.

Yes... so much sense.

[eye basher]

Oh god with people and the geth and edi you just don't get it the geth,edi hell everyone in the whole galaxy are assest and all assest are expendable their are no exceptions.

[dreman9999]

Grimwick wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

Why?

So it's easier to make something which blows/deactivates all synthetic life (but distinguishes synthetic life from a simple computer) and includes every form of synthetic life, including symbiotic life such as the reapers... but it's suddenly harder to specifically target one race of sentient life/format.

Yes... so much sense.

In war is it easier to capture a base or blow it up? Is it easier to kill someone or kidnap them?Is it easy to take plans or destroy them?

Modifié par dreman9999, 26 juillet 2012 - 11:42 .

[Grimwick]

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

Why?

So it's easier to make something which blows/deactivates all synthetic life (but distinguishes synthetic life from a simple computer) and includes every form of synthetic life, including symbiotic life such as the reapers... but it's suddenly harder to specifically target one race of sentient life/format.

Yes... so much sense.

In war is it easier to capture a base or blow it up? Is it easier to kill someone or kidnap them?Is it easy to take plans or destroy them?

Not a comparative set of examples/analogies.

[hawkens982]

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

Why?

So it's easier to make something which blows/deactivates all synthetic life (but distinguishes synthetic life from a simple computer) and includes every form of synthetic life, including symbiotic life such as the reapers... but it's suddenly harder to specifically target one race of sentient life/format.

Yes... so much sense.

In war is it easier to capture a base or blow it up? Is it easier to kill someone or kidnap them?Is it easy to take plans or destroy them?

The main issue here is how come one colour can distinguish between the geth and reapers when both are reaper tech (geth having been infused with reaper code). As far as I am concerned, destroy and control both target the same technology, that being reaper tech. How can the same purpose have different outcomes? Wouldn't it be easier to control everything reaper tech'd than to distinguish between reaperfied geth and reapers? Its the same argument as its easier to blow stuff up than to control them...

Modifié par hawkens982, 26 juillet 2012 - 11:48 .

[The Twilight God]

dreman9999 wrote...

]1. TIM stated this over and over again. He tested out the theory  And In the end he was right. The catalyst never has any power or control over control in any way. Control takes all it's power from him. In factif you have save the reaper base and have low ems, the only option you have is to control the reapers. That alone makes it afact that the starchild has no say over control.

What TIM says is irrelevent. It wasn't based on any direct knowledge. It was based on his personal desires. That's what Sancuary was about. Figuring out how to control the reapers. The Crucible being able to do this negates the need for Sanctuary. Obviously he didn't know about any control function or Sanctuary would never have started.

Control being forced in a low ems ending proves nothing you say. It means the Crucible was damaged to badly that it can't do what it was mean to do. The hearts allows the Crucible to maintain enough power to still fire, although irratically.  Where you get off that this proves the Star Child has nothing to do with control is a mystery.

You continue to ignore evidence.

a. The control console is pre-built into the Citadel, not the Crucible.
b. Control supposedly replaces the Catalyst with Shepard. Why would such a capability be on the Crucible when the people who designed it never knew the Catalyst existed???

If you will not properly address these issues don't bother replying. If you're just going to ignore my points and keep repeating yourself despite my points demonstrating how wrong you are this is a pointless exchange. I'm not going to sit here and argue that the world is a shpere while you insist it is a flat.

dreman9999 wrote...

2.I didn't say thatcontrolin geth is ludicious. I'm saying that the geth are not part of the catalyst system  and is outside of it's control. The rewrite is of everything in the catalyst system, that's the citadel, mass relays and the reapers.
It like update networked computers via it's serveres. How do you do that to a computer that's not in is server or reconiced as part of it's system.

So now you agree that the Catalyst is responsible for control and not the Crucible? Because if the Crucible is doing control then it doesn't matter what's on the Catalyst's systems. You either acknowledge that control is the catalyst doing or admit that the geth would be just as indescriminately effected as they are in Destroy.

[dreman9999]

The Twilight God wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

]1. TIM stated this over and over again. He tested out the theory  And In the end he was right. The catalyst never has any power or control over control in any way. Control takes all it's power from him. In factif you have save the reaper base and have low ems, the only option you have is to control the reapers. That alone makes it afact that the starchild has no say over control.

What TIM says is irrelevent. It wasn't based on any direct knowledge. It was based on his personal desires. That's what Sancuary was about. Figuring out how to control the reapers. The Crucible being able to do this negates the need for Sanctuary. Obviously he didn't know about any control function or Sanctuary would never have started.

Control being forced in a low ems ending proves nothing you say. It means the Crucible was damaged to badly that it can't do what it was mean to do. The hearts allows the Crucible to maintain enough power to still fire, although irratically.  Where you get off that this proves the Star Child has nothing to do with control is a mystery.

You continue to ignore evidence.

a. The control console is pre-built into the Citadel, not the Crucible.
b. Control supposedly replaces the Catalyst with Shepard. Why would such a capability be on the Crucible when the people who designed it never knew the Catalyst existed???

If you will not properly address these issues don't bother replying. If you're just going to ignore my points and keep repeating yourself despite my points demonstrating how wrong you are this is a pointless exchange. I'm not going to sit here and argue that the world is a shpere while you insist it is a flat.

dreman9999 wrote...

2.I didn't say thatcontrolin geth is ludicious. I'm saying that the geth are not part of the catalyst system  and is outside of it's control. The rewrite is of everything in the catalyst system, that's the citadel, mass relays and the reapers.
It like update networked computers via it's serveres. How do you do that to a computer that's not in is server or reconiced as part of it's system.

So now you agree that the Catalyst is responsible for control and not the Crucible? Because if the Crucible is doing control then it doesn't matter what's on the Catalyst's systems. You either acknowledge that control is the catalyst doing or admit that the geth would be just as indescriminately effected as they are in Destroy.

1. What TIM says is relliven.It based on years of studying the reapers, what was learned in ME2 and sactuary. wHY Do you thing it was said TIm was right in the control explination. Also, the last scene in the game take place on the catalyst.
And the still have to send out the changed orders to the reapers.
2.Control used the mass relays to send out the signal.The mass relays are the catalyst system. The geth are not part of it. The rapers are.

Modifié par dreman9999, 27 juillet 2012 - 12:22 .

[dreman9999]

Grimwick wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

Why?

So it's easier to make something which blows/deactivates all synthetic life (but distinguishes synthetic life from a simple computer) and includes every form of synthetic life, including symbiotic life such as the reapers... but it's suddenly harder to specifically target one race of sentient life/format.

Yes... so much sense.

In war is it easier to capture a base or blow it up? Is it easier to kill someone or kidnap them?Is it easy to take plans or destroy them?

Not a comparative set of examples/analogies.

How? Your at war.

[dreman9999]

hawkens982 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

Why?

So it's easier to make something which blows/deactivates all synthetic life (but distinguishes synthetic life from a simple computer) and includes every form of synthetic life, including symbiotic life such as the reapers... but it's suddenly harder to specifically target one race of sentient life/format.

Yes... so much sense.

In war is it easier to capture a base or blow it up? Is it easier to kill someone or kidnap them?Is it easy to take plans or destroy them?

The main issue here is how come one colour can distinguish between the geth and reapers when both are reaper tech (geth having been infused with reaper code). As far as I am concerned, destroy and control both target the same technology, that being reaper tech. How can the same purpose have different outcomes? Wouldn't it be easier to control everything reaper tech'd than to distinguish between reaperfied geth and reapers? Its the same argument as its easier to blow stuff up than to control them...

Destory=like an emp.
control= rewrie of catalyst system...

The geth are not a part of the catalyst system.

[hawkens982]

dreman9999 wrote...

hawkens982 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

Why?

So it's easier to make something which blows/deactivates all synthetic life (but distinguishes synthetic life from a simple computer) and includes every form of synthetic life, including symbiotic life such as the reapers... but it's suddenly harder to specifically target one race of sentient life/format.

Yes... so much sense.

In war is it easier to capture a base or blow it up? Is it easier to kill someone or kidnap them?Is it easy to take plans or destroy them?

The main issue here is how come one colour can distinguish between the geth and reapers when both are reaper tech (geth having been infused with reaper code). As far as I am concerned, destroy and control both target the same technology, that being reaper tech. How can the same purpose have different outcomes? Wouldn't it be easier to control everything reaper tech'd than to distinguish between reaperfied geth and reapers? Its the same argument as its easier to blow stuff up than to control them...

Destory=like an emp.
control= rewrie of catalyst system...

The geth are not a part of the catalyst system.

But they are since they integrated reaper code into their programming.

[Genetic Destiny]

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

Why?

Because a reaper is far more advanced than a geth and hard to destroy on its own, but the Crucible is able to control the reapers and not the geth, which are far less advanced. It has no difficulty destroying both though.

Modifié par Genetic Destiny, 27 juillet 2012 - 12:59 .

[The Twilight God]

dreman9999 wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

a. The control console is pre-built into the Citadel, not the Crucible.
b. Control supposedly replaces the Catalyst with Shepard. Why would such a capability be on the Crucible when the people who designed it never knew the Catalyst existed???

If you will not properly address these issues don't bother replying. If you're just going to ignore my points and keep repeating yourself despite my points demonstrating how wrong you are this is a pointless exchange. I'm not going to sit here and argue that the world is a shpere while you insist it is a flat.

1. What TIM says is relliven.It based on years of studying the reapers, what was learned in ME2 and sactuary. wHY Do you thing it was said TIm was right in the control explination. Also, the last scene in the game take place on the catalyst. And the still have to send out the changed orders to the reapers.
2.Control used the mass relays to send out the signal.The mass relays are the catalyst system. The geth are not part of it. The rapers are.

I'd love to RE-address your comments for the unteenth time (and i will once you've addressed my points), but first things first...

The Twilight God wrote...

a. The control console is pre-built into the Citadel, not the Crucible.
b. Control supposedly replaces the Catalyst with Shepard. Why would such a capability be on the Crucible when the people who designed it never knew the Catalyst existed???

If you will not properly address these issues don't bother replying. If you're just going to ignore my points and keep repeating yourself despite my points demonstrating how wrong you are this is a pointless exchange. I'm not going to sit here and argue that the world is a shpere while you insist it is a flat.

Show alittle respect and address my points. Otherwise, as I said before, don't bother replying to me. Until you counter my points you, by default, are agreeing with them as your silence in the matter tells me you can't counter them. If that is the case I've won this debate and it's over. As my position is established as stronger than yours. On th einternet, when people are wrong they just skip what they can't argue against and continue regurgitating faulty ideas that have already been shot down. Perhaps with other poster this tactic works, but not with me. I'm going to hld you to a higher standard in debating.

So please, address the points I've made if you think I'm wrong. Otherwise, I win the internets. Thank you.

[o Ventus]

dreman9999 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

It the same concept as EDI contoling EDA's body and being EDI through that body.

What? EDI didn't reprogram Eva. Eva's programs still exist, EDI just took control of them. Good job there.

Machines perseptions are highly maluable.

This isn't a sentence.

They can have as many bodies , sense, eye's, perseptions, and persona's as they want.

The f**k? 

An AI can be one being and many beings at once

No. A single AI is a singular being. The Catalyst is a singular AI. It uses 1st person pronouns when referring to itself.

That's why every reaper need to be reprogramed.

Sure, except you haven't answered a single aspect of any of my posts.

If you want to reprogram legion, you have to reprogram every geth unit in his platform.

No dick, that's why they call it a gestalt intelligence. Except here the Catalyst is not a gestalt AI. Nice invalid example though.

1. That's still reprograming. The only way for an Ai to control and AI is by control it's programing. Rewriting the programing is nned to do that. Thanks fro showing you don't know what you talking about.Add even EDI say she uploaded part of her self in the EDA BODY.
2.That's a sentence. "Machines" is the noun."Perceptions" in a noun.  "are "is a conjunction.highly is an adverb. And  "malleable" is a verb.  "Machines perceptions are highly malleable."is a sentence.3.No. An AI can have as personas as it want. It has no limits to it. It be one being and many beings at once. It based on the fact that it can easilly divide it persona and merge it's persona. Think copying itself and pasting itself then scanning all the data it's other forms memories have gained. Theres a converstion with engineer Adams about this in the games. The geth do this all the time.
4.EDI has two bodies. 
5.This is the statement from the Catalyst...

"I'm the embodyment of the collective intelligence of all the reapers"
What does that mean?
6.I have awnsered you question. You clearly did get it and shut your ears and mind off when the game gave you these examples.
7. What does"I'm the collective intelligence of the reapers" mean?

1. You don't know what reprogramming is, then.

2. "Malleable" is an adjective. "Are" is not a conjunction. "Highly" (in this context) is not an adverb. Congratulations, you've proved yourself incapable of English.

Why should I bother respondong to your other "points"?

[dreman9999]

hawkens982 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

hawkens982 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

Why?

So it's easier to make something which blows/deactivates all synthetic life (but distinguishes synthetic life from a simple computer) and includes every form of synthetic life, including symbiotic life such as the reapers... but it's suddenly harder to specifically target one race of sentient life/format.

Yes... so much sense.

In war is it easier to capture a base or blow it up? Is it easier to kill someone or kidnap them?Is it easy to take plans or destroy them?

The main issue here is how come one colour can distinguish between the geth and reapers when both are reaper tech (geth having been infused with reaper code). As far as I am concerned, destroy and control both target the same technology, that being reaper tech. How can the same purpose have different outcomes? Wouldn't it be easier to control everything reaper tech'd than to distinguish between reaperfied geth and reapers? Its the same argument as its easier to blow stuff up than to control them...

Destory=like an emp.
control= rewrie of catalyst system...

The geth are not a part of the catalyst system.

But they are since they integrated reaper code into their programming.

That is not what it means. The catalyst is the incoperation of every repaer intelligence... That is the system. The geth are not part of the catalyst intelligence, so they are not affected by control.

[iHorizons]

Speculation...............

[dreman9999]

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

It the same concept as EDI contoling EDA's body and being EDI through that body.

What? EDI didn't reprogram Eva. Eva's programs still exist, EDI just took control of them. Good job there.

Machines perseptions are highly maluable.

This isn't a sentence.

They can have as many bodies , sense, eye's, perseptions, and persona's as they want.

The f**k? 

An AI can be one being and many beings at once

No. A single AI is a singular being. The Catalyst is a singular AI. It uses 1st person pronouns when referring to itself.

That's why every reaper need to be reprogramed.

Sure, except you haven't answered a single aspect of any of my posts.

If you want to reprogram legion, you have to reprogram every geth unit in his platform.

No dick, that's why they call it a gestalt intelligence. Except here the Catalyst is not a gestalt AI. Nice invalid example though.

1. That's still reprograming. The only way for an Ai to control and AI is by control it's programing. Rewriting the programing is nned to do that. Thanks fro showing you don't know what you talking about.Add even EDI say she uploaded part of her self in the EDA BODY.
2.That's a sentence. "Machines" is the noun."Perceptions" in a noun.  "are "is a conjunction.highly is an adverb. And  "malleable" is a verb.  "Machines perceptions are highly malleable."is a sentence.3.No. An AI can have as personas as it want. It has no limits to it. It be one being and many beings at once. It based on the fact that it can easilly divide it persona and merge it's persona. Think copying itself and pasting itself then scanning all the data it's other forms memories have gained. Theres a converstion with engineer Adams about this in the games. The geth do this all the time.
4.EDI has two bodies. 
5.This is the statement from the Catalyst...

"I'm the embodyment of the collective intelligence of all the reapers"
What does that mean?
6.I have awnsered you question. You clearly did get it and shut your ears and mind off when the game gave you these examples.
7. What does"I'm the collective intelligence of the reapers" mean?

1. You don't know what reprogramming is, then.

2. "Malleable" is an adjective. "Are" is not a conjunction. "Highly" (in this context) is not an adverb. Congratulations, you've proved yourself incapable of English.

Why should I bother respondong to your other "points"?

1.That is reprograming. Reprigraming is a change to the original programing of a machine to do somthing else. IF EVA's body now does what ever EDI tells it to do when it was orginally programed to do something else., then that means it was reprogramed. You clear don't know what you at talking about.
2. A mechines ego can be in many forms. That's why EDI's ego is one and can control two body and Legions ego is many and can control one body.

[dreman9999]

The Twilight God wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

a. The control console is pre-built into the Citadel, not the Crucible.
b. Control supposedly replaces the Catalyst with Shepard. Why would such a capability be on the Crucible when the people who designed it never knew the Catalyst existed???

If you will not properly address these issues don't bother replying. If you're just going to ignore my points and keep repeating yourself despite my points demonstrating how wrong you are this is a pointless exchange. I'm not going to sit here and argue that the world is a shpere while you insist it is a flat.

1. What TIM says is relliven.It based on years of studying the reapers, what was learned in ME2 and sactuary. wHY Do you thing it was said TIm was right in the control explination. Also, the last scene in the game take place on the catalyst. And the still have to send out the changed orders to the reapers.
2.Control used the mass relays to send out the signal.The mass relays are the catalyst system. The geth are not part of it. The rapers are.

I'd love to RE-address your comments for the unteenth time (and i will once you've addressed my points), but first things first...

The Twilight God wrote...

a. The control console is pre-built into the Citadel, not the Crucible.
b. Control supposedly replaces the Catalyst with Shepard. Why would such a capability be on the Crucible when the people who designed it never knew the Catalyst existed???

If you will not properly address these issues don't bother replying. If you're just going to ignore my points and keep repeating yourself despite my points demonstrating how wrong you are this is a pointless exchange. I'm not going to sit here and argue that the world is a shpere while you insist it is a flat.

Show alittle respect and address my points. Otherwise, as I said before, don't bother replying to me. Until you counter my points you, by default, are agreeing with them as your silence in the matter tells me you can't counter them. If that is the case I've won this debate and it's over. As my position is established as stronger than yours. On th einternet, when people are wrong they just skip what they can't argue against and continue regurgitating faulty ideas that have already been shot down. Perhaps with other poster this tactic works, but not with me. I'm going to hld you to a higher standard in debating.

So please, address the points I've made if you think I'm wrong. Otherwise, I win the internets. Thank you.

That is not true at all. The last scene is on the crucible  not the citadel. I said this before.

Modifié par dreman9999, 27 juillet 2012 - 01:18 .

[dreman9999]

Genetic Destiny wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It's easier to blow something up than it is to control it.

That's what Patrick Weekes said.

Which makes no sense in these circumstances.

Why?

Because a reaper is far more advanced than a geth and hard to destroy on its own, but the Crucible is able to control the reapers and not the geth, which are far less advanced. It has no difficulty destroying both though.

Control =rewriteof programing.
destroy = emp like weapon.

Added, the geth are not part of the catalyst like the reapers are.

[o Ventus]

dreman9999 wrote...

1.That is reprograming. Reprigraming is a change to the original programing of a machine to do somthing else. IF EVA's body now does what ever EDI tells it to do when it was orginally programed to do something else., then that means it was reprogramed. You clear don't know what you at talking about.
2. A mechines ego can be in many forms. That's why EDI's ego is one and can control two body and Legions ego is many and can control one body.

1. Except Eva's original programming still exists and EDI just took manual control over the body, and thus isn't reprogramming? Lol @ you telling me I don't know what I'm talking about when I pointed out how your "sentence" wasn't a sentence. 

2. You don't know what an ego is.

[dreman9999]

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1.That is reprograming. Reprigraming is a change to the original programing of a machine to do somthing else. IF EVA's body now does what ever EDI tells it to do when it was orginally programed to do something else., then that means it was reprogramed. You clear don't know what you at talking about.
2. A mechines ego can be in many forms. That's why EDI's ego is one and can control two body and Legions ego is many and can control one body.

1. Except Eva's original programming still exists and EDI just took manual control over the body, and thus isn't reprogramming? Lol @ you telling me I don't know what I'm talking about when I pointed out how your "sentence" wasn't a sentence. 

2. You don't know what an ego is.

1. Her orginal programing was to infltrate and do what ever TIM told her to do....That EVA body is not do that. If your refuring to the motor function and power the body has. Ofcourse EDI will not wipe  that out. But everything else about EDA's programing is out. Remeber, EDI did say she put some of her programing in to the EVA BADY.
2. Ego.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ego 
1. the self of an individual person; the conscious subject2. (Psychoanalysis) Psychoanal the conscious mind, based on perception of the environment from birth onwards: responsible for modifying the antisocial instincts of the id and itself modified by the conscience (superego) 

This is what I'm taking about.And you just like me to a wiki page that saya the same thing. You really don't understand what an ego is do you?
Let me help you....
From the wikipage.....
Conscious awareness resides in the ego, although not all of the operations of the ego are conscious. 

That's the same thing as the defintion I just posted.  This is high malluble with machines and syntetics.  
2 machines have one ego. (EDI). One machine can have many.(Legion)

Modifié par dreman9999, 27 juillet 2012 - 01:41 .