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[cerberus1701]

Quote: If you don't want something to be nerfed, present some evidence it's not OP.

Why do I have to?

Why does ANYONE have to?

Why does something have to be nerfed at all?

Why do nerfers complain? Not because they want to make the game better? They don't really care about the game or its players. They derive the bulk of their enjoyment picking apart the game files, putting all the data about penetreation and bullet spread on a spreadsheet and picking it to death.

Then coming here to stomp their feet.

Just so they can have something to stomp their feet about. The krysae. Now it's the Pirahna. After that it'll be the Typhoon, then, the Saber, then the GPS.

By Christmas rockets will be a requirement for an Atlas.

[Nicegil2012]

Where did you get the topic for this thread huh? the toilet store? hehe

[DHKany]

If we have to prove that it isn't OP all the time.
then prove to us that it is OP all the time.

[cerberus1701]

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

jamesfrom818 wrote...

Those who support nerfing would probably notify a manager that a waitress forgot to charge them for the drinks that they had with their dinner.

^^^^^^^^^

Yep. There's a sucker born every minute.

I probably would do that.

Why?

Because I've had relatives in food service. Managers can and will reconcile the books by taking those drinks out of the server.

And servers aren't servers so they can make their BMW payments.

But I do not support nerfing. It's a game. It's a co-op game. The goal is to get to the end and lift off with the creds.  I don't much care who kills the Banshee as long as it dies.

Take the Krysae. I played with several people that loved it like it was. Loved it because while myself and most others can use the Valiant or the BW, they couldn't pinpoint shoot with it if you paid them $100 a kill. Give them a Krysae though and they could play a sniper infiltrator and have fun and contribute to the team.

The average nerfer will respond with, "Well maybe you shouldn't play as a sniper. Or maybe you should just be forced to work with weapons that frustrate you until you "get good."

How fun.

I disagree with pretty much any nerfing and especially nerfers because it comes down to a few criers trying to tell other people how they should play a game that THEY paid $60 for, too.

[Urdnot_SahVaj]

Can we just get nothing but one gun then? With the rate of fire of a typhoon, but shoots marshmallows. Also, it can receive no bonuses from mods and powers. Balanced enough? Damage is always consistent against everything, and it can never be better or worse on anyone one class. That's what you all want. Seriously, don't even bother to argue it. Balance? Screw balance, I lost the meaning of balance going through BSN. No one wants balance. Everyone just wants everything to be like weapon x, y, or z. And if it's better than said weapon(s) then it must be worse than it.

For the love of god. Most of the weapons that get hard, get hit hard by you guys who over play it on one set up and get bored with how well it can kill things so then you pick at it and present your request to the rest of the nerfers, where you then attempt to butcher it to holy hell and see if BW agrees. Which clearly they do.

**** balance. Want balance? Make my single shot snipers carry the effect of a claymore, don't wreck the claymore. SMGs aren't on par with anything? Slight damage and ammo boost, ROF is fine. AR can't do enough damage to compete with (insert UR here) increase weight but give significant damage boost. This pistol can't do what a carnifex can? Well then, request it do more damage instead of go after carni.
Thought out enough? Sofisticated enough?

[Father_Jerusalem]

Nerfers are the children in school who, at 2:59 on the Friday before spring break, remind the teacher that she didn't assign homework for the class.

You are the BSN equivalent of the "ooh ooh" girls.

Nobody likes the ooh ooh girls.

[ScreamingRaptor]

New pack specially for nerfers: Stone Age Pack
Cost 1 credit with a brand new Cave man Character. Stick and stone for weapon.
Equipment: Fire ( Can be combined with stick or stone to increased 0.1 damage per sec.)
Caution, instant death with this Character in any map except Earth map. Due to radiation, Extreme Temp. or Low O2 content.

[Wrecksauce]

There's no point in nerfing now that we have platinum difficulty.

[joker_jack]

You can present a well thought out and rational argument to a nerfer, however their elitist brain doesn't want to hear it so this is what we end up with.

[Asebstos]

Since the 'anti-nerfers' are clearly the most vocal members of this community at the moment, I wonder if they'll still b*tch and moan and blame the "nerfers" if/when the next 'nerf' occurs.

[Urdnot Loksta]

ScreamingRaptor wrote...

New pack specially for nerfers: Stone Age Pack
Cost 1 credit with a brand new Cave man Character. Stick and stone for weapon.
Equipment: Fire ( Can be combined with stick or stone to increased 0.1 damage per sec.)
Caution, instant death with this Character in any map except Earth map. Due to radiation, Extreme Temp. or Low O2 content.

Dude, I'm serious. That's what the people on this forum want the game to be.

[Asebstos]

Volatile Device wrote...


But on an Asari Adept? Not overpowered. Therefore, the weapon is overpowered in combination with certain classes, rather than "Overpowered, period."

If your benchmark for whether or not a weapon is imbalanced is whether or not its "overpowered" on the Asari Adept, a class that shouldn't really be worrying about weapons, then I don't really know what to say to you.

[4ut0b4hn5child27]

what's the point getting new DLC gun, only ended up getting nerfed ?

what's the point finally getting the gun you can use, only ended up getting nerfed?

Seriously people.

Not all people who play ME3 MP have a good aiming.

just as example people know how to use Krysae, until know i don't have idea how to properly using that gun (even i have maxed the lv).

If you want something Nerf, better bioWare Delete all Rare and Ultra-Rare weapon. No Missile at all, no Gear, no Ammo power, no rail amp etc

Quadruple the damage of enemy, no Bronze/ Silver / Gold /Platinum challenge

only one challenge but harder, but getting the money every wave. 

How about that.

Modifié par 4ut0b4hn5child27, 26 juillet 2012 - 05:32 .

[Uberschveinen]

Asebstos wrote...

Since the 'anti-nerfers' are clearly the most vocal members of this community at the moment, I wonder if they'll still b*tch and moan and blame the "nerfers" if/when the next 'nerf' occurs.

Since Bioware doesn't actually base any of its balance changes on community feedback alone, or even primarily, it won't change the way they work. Bioware will still read the bvoards to see things to look at, then look at the data, and adjust whatever jumps out at them.

And since the WAAAAH DEY NERF MAH GUN cries are coming  from people as outraged as though they had been sexually assaulted by a trivial change to a game played for fun, you are insane if you expect them to respond to somethign as trivial as objective evidence.

[CitizenThom]

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

CitizenThom wrote...

Eckswhyzed wrote...

Here's my contribution to the growing mass of threads talking about balancing:

If you don't want something to be nerfed, present some evidence it's not OP.

If you don't want me to send you to the bad place, present some evidence that will convince me that I shouldn't. Oh, and I'm sole judge and arbiter of whether you've provided evidence or not.

Sound logical?

Beautiful.

http://mlkshk.com/r/1VOT

Awesome gif. Reminds me a little bit of Space Ghost Coast to Coast.

[CitizenThom]

joker_jack wrote...

You can present a well thought out and rational argument to a nerfer, however their elitist brain doesn't want to hear it so this is what we end up with.

Exactly.

[Killahead]

Good OP. Childish troll posts dominate the thread as expected.

[UnRestrikted]

To the OP, have a seat. _/

Thanks.

[Xx_Belzak_xX]

The nerfers will never be happy. Even if we start running around in loin clothes with slingshots, they'll still find something to complain about.

The best solution is, as I've said before, is to nerf the nerfers. Push them into oncoming traffic. Problem solved.

[rmccowen]

Xx_Belzak_xX wrote...

The best solution is, as I've said before, is to nerf the nerfers. Push them into oncoming traffic. Problem solved.

Reported.

[Killahead]

Eckswhyzed wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

OP, you're the ones making the claim that things should be nerfed, so the onus is on you.

So what did I want nerfed again? Oh right, I didn't mention anything in the OP.

I do find the one-line responses amusing though. I clearly overestimated BSN's capacity for rational argument...

This was your biggest mistake. Join the "balance all the things" group if you want a mature, civil discussion. That's where it's taking place now, and that's why so few players that care about balance bother to post in the forums anymore, too many trolls, too much stupidity.

[Xx_Belzak_xX]

rmccowen wrote...

Xx_Belzak_xX wrote...

The best solution is, as I've said before, is to nerf the nerfers. Push them into oncoming traffic. Problem solved.

Reported.

Please see my signature.

Anyone who takes my post seriously is surely a fool.

Modifié par Xx_Belzak_xX, 26 juillet 2012 - 06:23 .

[Senshirou]

Why would you want an ultra-rare to be weaker or close to a rare, uncommon, or common weapon? Same goes for the others.Some weapons are suppose to be stronger than others, and then they aren't good till certain people use it. If you have a problem with a weapon being "eazy mode" use another weapon? Stop being mad because I stole your kill lol

[ParaNeuman]

Yes nerf everything to GPR strenght. Then everything will be balanced.

[Master Xanthan]

Killahead wrote...

Eckswhyzed wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

OP, you're the ones making the claim that things should be nerfed, so the onus is on you.

So what did I want nerfed again? Oh right, I didn't mention anything in the OP.

I do find the one-line responses amusing though. I clearly overestimated BSN's capacity for rational argument...

This was your biggest mistake. Join the "balance all the things" group if you want a mature, civil discussion. That's where it's taking place now, and that's why so few players that care about balance bother to post in the forums anymore, too many trolls, too much stupidity.

Instead of insulting others, have you actually considered that people just like the game the way it is? (well except for the game breaking glitches). 

Modifié par Master Xanthan, 26 juillet 2012 - 06:24 .