F4H bandicoot wrote...
You have no proof of that flanny,
And anyway, Reapers have occuli and Destroyers, similar to Geth ships, so saying the Geth made it possible is irrelevent in terms of a conventional victory.
But it was unconvetional. The only reason we killed sovergin ws because we stunned him.flanny wrote...
F4H bandicoot wrote...
You have no proof of that flanny,
And anyway, Reapers have occuli and Destroyers, similar to Geth ships, so saying the Geth made it possible is irrelevent in terms of a conventional victory.
I was refering back to what he said about ME1s ending
dreman9999 wrote...
How? The only reson we killed him wasbecausehew was stunned. If we did not kill him he would of escaped and trie again with more numbers.flanny wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
]I said ME1's victory is unconvetional as wellbeing that we had to stun Harbinger to kill him.
he was weakened but he still would have been destroyed in any case, the geth were still occupied with council, I consider that to be conventional. The only reason soveregn got as far as he did was becasue of the geth
The end of me1 was not conventional.
Modifié par flanny, 26 juillet 2012 - 05:08 .
F4H bandicoot wrote...
Exactly, the whole reason we killed sovie was because when grasshopersaren died, sovie's shields disabled (who knows why), without it, sovie would probably have got the relay open and then everyone would have been ****ed anyway
Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 26 juillet 2012 - 05:09 .
He could os still escaped and tried agien with more numbers. That still is an unconvetion victory. The fleet was being taken out.Conniving_Eagle wrote...
F4H bandicoot wrote...
Exactly, the whole reason we killed sovie was because when grasshopersaren died, sovie's shields disabled (who knows why), without it, sovie would probably have got the relay open and then everyone would have been ****ed anyway
The whole point of 'ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL' over Saren was because Sovereign needed someone to transfer the Citadel controls. It was an act of desparation. Sovereign would have eventually been destroyed if it stayed on the Citadel. Sovereign went down rather quickly once it lost its shields.
dreman9999 wrote...
He could os still escaped and tried agien with more numbers. That still is an unconvetion victory. The fleet was being taken out.Conniving_Eagle wrote...
F4H bandicoot wrote...
Exactly, the whole reason we killed sovie was because when grasshopersaren died, sovie's shields disabled (who knows why), without it, sovie would probably have got the relay open and then everyone would have been ****ed anyway
The whole point of 'ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL' over Saren was because Sovereign needed someone to transfer the Citadel controls. It was an act of desparation. Sovereign would have eventually been destroyed if it stayed on the Citadel. Sovereign went down rather quickly once it lost its shields.
dreman9999 wrote...
Because the reapers /starchild let the crucible in.Kamfrenchie wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Our fleet can't beat the reapers fleets in any type of fight.StrawberryRainPop wrote...
sth128 wrote...
When you realize thatStrawberryRainPop wrote...
When the ants are able to come up with a device that can kill the entire universe in a moment, then come back with this analogy.
a) Humans did not come up with the CrucibleThe Crucible is not a conventional victory
c) The Crucible did not "kill the entire universe"
d) Understand the difference between "galaxy" and "universe"
then come back to this thread.
Listen,
Ants, with ALL their might, with ALL their combined unity, against a couple of humans with flamethrowers.
Not even a close fight. Stop making this ****** poor comparison. Ants are strictly melee, and anything other than that, humans can wear protection against any venom, it wouldnt even hit the range anyway.
So no. It is possible in ME3 for the galatic force to defeat several reapers when wokring togteher.
ANTS, have NO Chance.
Come back when you are done with this crappy analogy. Unless you can come up with a plan, of how ants, can defeat humans defending on full force with all their technolgy. Hell, flamethrowers and protection is enough.
They have the Oculus,
http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Oculus , they make in swarms.
They have more ships the take harder blows then ours and kill ours in a single blow.
The reapers can just destory our fleets by sending endless swarms of Oculus at them and that would be it.
To all of you who support the ideathat reapersand their oculus ar unstoppable, please explain m how the crucible make it t the citadel then ?
Accordng to you, we areoutnummbered, outteched, get one shotted and whatnot.
But somehow we manage to make a breakthrough through reaper lines and sop them from detroyin the crucible ?
No way. This is space. Not the middle age. ou ca't protect that evice by surrounding it with ships, it dosn't work. THere is no cover in space either.
Crucibl victory makes no sense if reapers are that strong
Know whatthe reapers what and you'll understand. No matter what Shepard does, this will be the last cycle the reapers have a chance of winning and the reapers know it.
dreman9999 wrote...
He would of escaped and tried agein with more numbers.Think a hacked geth race and the collectors.flanny wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
How? The only reson we killed him wasbecausehew was stunned. If we did not kill him he would of escaped and trie again with more numbers.flanny wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
I said ME1's victory is unconvetional as wellbeing that we had to stun Harbinger to kill him.
he was weakened but he still would have been destroyed in any case, the geth were still occupied with council, I consider that to be conventional. The only reason soveregn got as far as he did was becasue of the geth
The end of me1 was not conventional.
not sure what you mean are you actually saying if he wasn't weakened he wouldn't have been destroyed or that if he wasn't weakened he could have opened the mass relay to dark space?
Modifié par flanny, 26 juillet 2012 - 05:15 .
flanny wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
He would of escaped and tried agein with more numbers.Think a hacked geth race and the collectors.flanny wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
How? The only reson we killed him wasbecausehew was stunned. If we did not kill him he would of escaped and trie again with more numbers.flanny wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
I said ME1's victory is unconvetional as wellbeing that we had to stun Harbinger to kill him.
he was weakened but he still would have been destroyed in any case, the geth were still occupied with council, I consider that to be conventional. The only reason soveregn got as far as he did was becasue of the geth
The end of me1 was not conventional.
not sure what you mean are you actually saying if he wasn't weakened he wouldn't have been destroyed or that if he wasn't weakened he could have opened the mass relay to dark space?
ah i can concede that, still not sure if i'd call that unconventional but i can see where you're coming.
It would have been interesting to have seen if mighty Sovereign would have actually ran any
The reaper never damaged it at low ems. And no they can't win the next cycle. It was made clear in the refuse ending that they lost. They lost because we left clear detailsabotu them and the crucible. This was the last cycle they could find a salution and the catalyst knew it. Your still not getting what the reapers want and it's not reaping.Kamfrenchie wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Because the reapers /starchild let the crucible in.Kamfrenchie wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Our fleet can't beat the reapers fleets in any type of fight.StrawberryRainPop wrote...
sth128 wrote...
When you realize thatStrawberryRainPop wrote...
When the ants are able to come up with a device that can kill the entire universe in a moment, then come back with this analogy.
a) Humans did not come up with the Crucible
c) The Crucible did not "kill the entire universe"
d) Understand the difference between "galaxy" and "universe"
then come back to this thread.
Listen,
Ants, with ALL their might, with ALL their combined unity, against a couple of humans with flamethrowers.
Not even a close fight. Stop making this ****** poor comparison. Ants are strictly melee, and anything other than that, humans can wear protection against any venom, it wouldnt even hit the range anyway.
So no. It is possible in ME3 for the galatic force to defeat several reapers when wokring togteher.
ANTS, have NO Chance.
Come back when you are done with this crappy analogy. Unless you can come up with a plan, of how ants, can defeat humans defending on full force with all their technolgy. Hell, flamethrowers and protection is enough.
They have the Oculus,
http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Oculus , they make in swarms.
They have more ships the take harder blows then ours and kill ours in a single blow.
The reapers can just destory our fleets by sending endless swarms of Oculus at them and that would be it.
To all of you who support the ideathat reapersand their oculus ar unstoppable, please explain m how the crucible make it t the citadel then ?
Accordng to you, we areoutnummbered, outteched, get one shotted and whatnot.
But somehow we manage to make a breakthrough through reaper lines and sop them from detroyin the crucible ?
No way. This is space. Not the middle age. ou ca't protect that evice by surrounding it with ships, it dosn't work. THere is no cover in space either.
Crucibl victory makes no sense if reapers are that strong
Know whatthe reapers what and you'll understand. No matter what Shepard does, this will be the last cycle the reapers have a chance of winning and the reapers know it.
no, you make no sense. The reaper try to destroy it and damage it if you have low ems. And hey could still win the nexxt cycle if they are tht powerful, just reap 2000 years earlier
Point being he would just come back with a stronger force to attack us after we were already weakened. But he underestamated what Shepard could do and tried for killing him and opening the citedel relay again.flanny wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
He would of escaped and tried agein with more numbers.Think a hacked geth race and the collectors.flanny wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
How? The only reson we killed him wasbecausehew was stunned. If we did not kill him he would of escaped and trie again with more numbers.flanny wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
I said ME1's victory is unconvetional as wellbeing that we had to stun Harbinger to kill him.
he was weakened but he still would have been destroyed in any case, the geth were still occupied with council, I consider that to be conventional. The only reason soveregn got as far as he did was becasue of the geth
The end of me1 was not conventional.
not sure what you mean are you actually saying if he wasn't weakened he wouldn't have been destroyed or that if he wasn't weakened he could have opened the mass relay to dark space?
ah i can concede that, still not sure if i'd call that unconventional but i can see where you're coming.
It would have been interesting to have seen if mighty Sovereign would have actually ran any
dreman9999 wrote...
The reaper never damaged it at low ems. And no they can't win the next cycle. It was made clear in the refuse ending that they lost. They lost because we left clear detailsabotu them and the crucible. This was the last cycle they could find a salution and the catalyst knew it. Your still not getting what the reapers want and it's not reaping.Kamfrenchie wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Because the reapers /starchild let the crucible in.Kamfrenchie wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Our fleet can't beat the reapers fleets in any type of fight.StrawberryRainPop wrote...
sth128 wrote...
When you realize thatStrawberryRainPop wrote...
When the ants are able to come up with a device that can kill the entire universe in a moment, then come back with this analogy.
a) Humans did not come up with the Crucible
c) The Crucible did not "kill the entire universe"
d) Understand the difference between "galaxy" and "universe"
then come back to this thread.
Listen,
Ants, with ALL their might, with ALL their combined unity, against a couple of humans with flamethrowers.
Not even a close fight. Stop making this ****** poor comparison. Ants are strictly melee, and anything other than that, humans can wear protection against any venom, it wouldnt even hit the range anyway.
So no. It is possible in ME3 for the galatic force to defeat several reapers when wokring togteher.
ANTS, have NO Chance.
Come back when you are done with this crappy analogy. Unless you can come up with a plan, of how ants, can defeat humans defending on full force with all their technolgy. Hell, flamethrowers and protection is enough.
They have the Oculus,
http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Oculus , they make in swarms.
They have more ships the take harder blows then ours and kill ours in a single blow.
The reapers can just destory our fleets by sending endless swarms of Oculus at them and that would be it.
To all of you who support the ideathat reapersand their oculus ar unstoppable, please explain m how the crucible make it t the citadel then ?
Accordng to you, we areoutnummbered, outteched, get one shotted and whatnot.
But somehow we manage to make a breakthrough through reaper lines and sop them from detroyin the crucible ?
No way. This is space. Not the middle age. ou ca't protect that evice by surrounding it with ships, it dosn't work. THere is no cover in space either.
Crucibl victory makes no sense if reapers are that strong
Know whatthe reapers what and you'll understand. No matter what Shepard does, this will be the last cycle the reapers have a chance of winning and the reapers know it.
no, you make no sense. The reaper try to destroy it and damage it if you have low ems. And hey could still win the nexxt cycle if they are tht powerful, just reap 2000 years earlier
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
The starchild say the reapers out number us when you pick the refusal choice.
That's your interpretation.
Modifié par The Twilight God, 26 juillet 2012 - 05:40 .
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
295 Ships? Okay...
Modifié par The Twilight God, 26 juillet 2012 - 06:10 .
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
The whole point of 'ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL' over Saren was because Sovereign needed someone to transfer the Citadel controls. It was an act of desparation. Sovereign would have eventually been destroyed if it stayed on the Citadel. Sovereign went down rather quickly once it lost its shields.
Modifié par Headhunter128, 26 juillet 2012 - 06:46 .
dreman9999 wrote...
Never ever go to bsn and say convetional victory ispossible. You'll start a war.StrawberryRainPop wrote...
oh god what have i created
StrawberryRainPop wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Never ever go to bsn and say convetional victory ispossible. You'll start a war.StrawberryRainPop wrote...
oh god what have i created
BRING ON THE WAR
WAITER! I WOULD LIKE MORE POPCORN
The Twilight God wrote...
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
295 Ships? Okay...
And how many reaper ships are they supposed to fit on screen at one time? Count the number of our ships on screen when they jumped through the Sol relay if you want to play that game.
Keep deluding yourself and ignoring facts. I'm sure you're utterly convinced the world is flat and nobody is ever going to be able to prove that to you.
Reaper's vastly outnumber us
Catalyst: http://www.youtube.c...yvUblf28#t=468s
Deal with it.
Conventional victory being impossible is not bad writing.Conniving_Eagle wrote...
The Twilight God wrote...
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
295 Ships? Okay...
And how many reaper ships are they supposed to fit on screen at one time? Count the number of our ships on screen when they jumped through the Sol relay if you want to play that game.
Keep deluding yourself and ignoring facts. I'm sure you're utterly convinced the world is flat and nobody is ever going to be able to prove that to you.
Reaper's vastly outnumber us
Catalyst: http://www.youtube.c...yvUblf28#t=468s
Deal with it.
Don't worry I can deal with it fine. By asserting that conventional victory is impossible (it will always be debatable) you further assert the bad writing of ME3. So atleast we agree on one thing
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