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[Static62]

Nissun wrote...

2Shepards wrote...

I hate the sound of it....or is that the Hornet...hrmmm

To be honest, I dislike the sound of the Loucst in ME3. It gets old really, really fast. It's too high-pitched, and that gets on my nerves.

That chirping sound is so adorable though; I use it from time to time simply for its silly noise.

[DnVill]

You're only supposed to use that gun to kill presidents.

Any other use will not work.

[UnknownMercenary]

Please stop saying it needs the same damage as the Tempest. It needs more.

You can simulate a Locust with Tempest damage as it is right now. Equip the Locust with HCB and SMG amp III and tell me it is now a weapon worth using.

Even equipped with magazine and heatsink, the Locust goes through the 20 rounds too fast while simultaneously not dealing enough damage. If the rate of fire is going to be kept this low, it needs to do much more damage than a Tempest does.

[Rick__D]

I use the locust on every caster build. Some things you forgot. The locust has innate armor piercing and though it has a small clip it has a real quick reload animation. Pair the locust with warp ammo and warp or dark channel and tear through armor.

[inakrin]

UnknownMercenary wrote...

Please stop saying it needs the same damage as the Tempest. It needs more.

You can simulate a Locust with Tempest damage as it is right now. Equip the Locust with HCB and SMG amp III and tell me it is now a weapon worth using.

Even equipped with magazine and heatsink, the Locust goes through the 20 rounds too fast while simultaneously not dealing enough damage. If the rate of fire is going to be kept this low, it needs to do much more damage than a Tempest does.

And how many damage do you wish to add? 80? 90? Let's make hornet and tempest even more useless than locust now is?

[UnknownMercenary]

inakrin wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

Please stop saying it needs the same damage as the Tempest. It needs more.

You can simulate a Locust with Tempest damage as it is right now. Equip the Locust with HCB and SMG amp III and tell me it is now a weapon worth using.

Even equipped with magazine and heatsink, the Locust goes through the 20 rounds too fast while simultaneously not dealing enough damage. If the rate of fire is going to be kept this low, it needs to do much more damage than a Tempest does.

And how many damage do you wish to add? 80? 90? Let's make hornet and tempest even more useless than locust now is?

Start with giving it the same damage as the Hornet and go from there. The lower damage of the Tempest is mitigated by its higher rate of fire, and the Hornet can fire its bursts at a higher rate than other burst guns. The Hornet's recoil is controlled by hipfiring, and the new recoil system mod makes it a non-issue altogether.

Rick__D wrote...

I use the locust on every caster build.
Some things you forgot. The locust has innate armor piercing and though
it has a small clip it has a real quick reload animation. Pair the
locust with warp ammo and warp or dark channel and tear through
armor.

The Locust does not have innate armor piercing.

Modifié par UnknownMercenary, 27 juillet 2012 - 11:59 .

[Rick__D]

Like the M-22 Eviscerator, the Locust sacrifices some of its penetration power against shields and barriers to add extra damage against armor, making it a more balanced SMG than the Tempest.

from
http://masseffect.wi...iki/M-12_Locust

Modifié par Rick__D, 27 juillet 2012 - 12:02 .

[Dokteur Kill]

Rick__D wrote...

Like the M-22 Eviscerator, the Locust sacrifices some of its penetration power against shields and barriers to add extra damage against armor, making it a more balanced SMG than the Tempest.

from
http://masseffect.wi...iki/M-12_Locust

Erm. You did notice that the part you're quoting is from the Mass Effect 2 section of the article, right?

[UnknownMercenary]

That description is a lie and a leftover from ME2, when the Locust had a higher damage multiplier against armor than other SMGs. It does not have innate piercing. Only the Widow, BW, Javelin and Typhoon have armor piercing (discounting projectile weapons like the Graal).

[Dokteur Kill]

In ME2, different weapon categories actually affected various defenses differently. SMGs were good against shields, while assault rifles were good against shields and armour, and sniper rifles were awesome against armour. The Locust was basically an assault rifle in SMG clothes.

[Milkies]

100% support a Locust buff
It was my favourite gun in ME2 by far so when I unlocked it in ME3, I was overjoyed.
I tried it out in a bronze match and its performance was pitiful. Even now that I have it at level X, it still sucks.
It even sounds pathetic now...

[Rick__D]

Yes but I actually use the locust and it is more effective against armor.

[Nissun]

Rick__D wrote...

Yes but I actually use the locust and it is more effective against armor.

I would like to know how quick you think a geth pyro can be killed on bronze/silver with the Locust. 

SIDENOTE: It may actually be good for piercing the pyro's tank. At least when I tried a scoped locust on an infiltrator, it happened more than usual without me intentionally targeting the thing. It's great, unless other players kill it before he explodes, which happens too often.

[kelly ripas bicep]

I would love to get the Fury and give her the locust to relive my Kasumi days (favorite character ever) but that would be INSANE. Buff this gun!!!! This weapon has received more mention in single player than any other, you would think it would be a chance to tie in ME2 in a meaningful way.

[ToaOrka]

Low ROF + Low Damage = Reapers laughing at your corpse.
I tried loving the Locust - I really did, but they just ruined it compared to the ME2 version.

[bigkahuna077]

Make it as good as it was in ME2 and watch what happens.

[Aiiro]

God, I love the Locust, but it needs some kind of buff. Even just damage would be fine. It has a low clip, and lower ROF, so a damage boost would make sense.

[LeandroBraz]

Locust definitely need a buff, but for some reaso I'm finding a lot of randoms use it. Maybe they are relatively new to the MP and choose her based on ME2, I really don't know, but I'm seeing her a lot.

[Biotic_Warlock]

At X it's just about Gold viable.

People who say Eagle sucks obviously never used the locust.

Gold+ It pretty much HEALS enemies.

[Nissun]

LeandroBraz wrote...

Locust definitely need a buff, but for some reaso I'm finding a lot of randoms use it. Maybe they are relatively new to the MP and choose her based on ME2, I really don't know, but I'm seeing her a lot.

Really? I've only seen it in very limited ocassions. And about half of the time, they carry it as a side weapon, and end up using the other one for the entire match.

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

People who say Eagle sucks obviously never used the locust.

 

Yes, this. The Eagle has an underserved reputation as a horrible weapon, but it is actually not that bad. It's very similar to the Tempest, actually, only with less ammo and different spread and recoil.

Which is actually kinda disappointing for a "promotional" weapon. In that, I agree. Let's be honest: with the N7 promotional rating, the Eagle should be overpowered. 

Modifié par Nissun, 27 juillet 2012 - 01:30 .

[HLake]

If this gun killed two presidents, they were really easy to kill.
Locust needs a big buff. Comparing it with other SMG it has:
-low ROF
-Low damage
-small clip
The only pro is it's accuracy.
At least one of the previous cons has to change.
I think it should have a bit more damage than the Tempest (around 65 at X), making it more viable.

[TheInvicibleCandyBar]

@OP, I hope they crazy buff the locust, because as it is, I don't even like using it on BRONZE!

And to everyone saying that rare and n7 rarity weapons are always better, are you playing the same game? The GPR is almost as weak as the locust right now, and their are plenty of n7 weapons that are considered either trash, or weak in comparison to their uncommon counterparts, like the wraith. And the Particle Rifle? Thats a new n7 gun, and it is so bad that to get it to semi-decent damage, you have to sit out in the open for like 4-5 seconds, getting filled with bullets!

Modifié par TheInvicibleCandyBar, 27 juillet 2012 - 01:38 .

[Nissun]

TheInvicibleCandyBar wrote...

@OP, I hope they crazy buff the locust, because as it is, I don't even like using it on BRONZE!

And to everyone saying that rare and n7 rarity weapons are always better, are you playing the same game? The GPR is almost as weak as the locust right now

The thing about the Geth Pulse Rifle is that you can hold the fire for very long, because it has a big clip. It still takes forever to kills things with it alone, and it's a bit too heavy for caster classes. But it's not as weak as the Locust. I use the GPR on a geth engineer and I have lots of fun with it. Just use overload, stunlock the enemies, and then you can headshot easily.

But yeah, a little boost wouldn't hurt.

And the Particle Rifle? Thats a new n7 gun, and it is so bad that to get it to semi-decent damage, you have to sit out in the open for like 4-5 seconds, getting filled with bullets!

If you can survive that, the weapon is actually amazing. It's hard to use, but rewarding. The Locust is simply hard to use. There is no reward.

[Dokteur Kill]

Nissun wrote...
 The Locust is simply hard to use. There is no reward.

Dunno, it's pretty easy to use if you ask me. It just doesn't do anything 

[Arppis]

I love Avenger, only thing it lacks is damage. But because of that I won't be using it on my Soldier in higher difficulties. But it's a nice weapon for power users. I wish they would buff that gun too.