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[Zancloufer]

MrFuddyDuddy wrote...

Lol light Damage buff, kidding right? Its needs a huge damage buff, smallest Shots per clip, Slowest RoF and it beats out the Shuriken in Damage per shot by what like 2 points? Which is still only like 48 a shot. Locust should be doing around if not higher damage than the Hornet which does like 78 a shot. I hate how it went from the best SMG in ME2 to one of the worst in ME3

It does LESS damage than the Shurikem, a good 10% less (43 vs 48).  Also weighs more, fires slower and has less ammo. 

The whole 10 shot clip, but making it do ~3x damage actually sounds cool.  Would balance it, and give it a bit of a niche.

[Zancloufer]

EDIT:  Multi Post.  ><

Modifié par Zancloufer, 27 juillet 2012 - 04:37 .

[MrFuddyDuddy]

I say they should up its damage from 43 to like 81 or so, I mean it sounds like alot but the Hornets DPS would still be Higher

[Paramedic293]

All the good weapons in ME2 got dumbed down for ME3, i miss the old mattock, phalanx and incisor...but ESPECIALLY the locust. The others are all still decent, viable weapons, but the locust...my poor locust

[knightsabre7]

Dokteur Kill wrote...
Giving it the same damage as the tempest with its current rof and accuracy would make it somewhat wimpy in terms of damage, but an ok headshot-machine. A decent weapon choice if you have the aim for it, but not an automatic choice for everyone.

Exactly! 

Consider the following stats at lvl X (please excuse the formatting):

Weapon     Clip         DMG       ROF   ACC     Weight
------           ----          ---          ---       ---          -----
Tempest     50           59.4       650     low         0.3
Locust         20           42.8       550     high       0.3
Hornet         24           67.2     1000     med      0.45
Hurricane    20*        128.1      600     low        0.45
Avenger       30            48.2      500     med      0.5

Making the dmg the same or just slightly higher than the Tempest would at least make it a niche headshot backup weapon.  It'd even be arguably better than Avenger which many people claim to love.

If you raise the dmg too much it'll start to outclass the Hornet and several of the assault rifles.  Although I'd love it to be the powerhouse it was in ME2, I'm happy to start with it just being balanced with the other weapons.

Modifié par knightsabre7, 27 juillet 2012 - 04:48 .

[mattylee10]

Buff for great justice!

[Heiwa no Senso]

Weapon     Clip         DMG       ROF   ACC     Weight
------           ----          ---          ---       ---          -----
Tempest     50           59.4       650     low         0.3
Locust         20           42.8       550     high       0.3

the fact that they both have exactly the same weight makes the locust seem even more useless.

Modifié par Heiwa no Senso, 31 juillet 2012 - 03:12 .

[Shamus23]

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

I think the Locust should have been more like it was in ME2, but that it should have been UR.

And I would have been ok with that.  Actually I was very shocked to see it as an uncommon weapon. Given all of the lore around the gun with being notorius and killing presidents I'm surprised it wasn't at least a Rare.

[Nissun]

I've been playing with the Tempest some more today. I've finally leveled up the stability and penetration mods and, I have to say: Being able to headshot enemies from the highest point in Giant is something I never imagined I would be able to do with it. On Gold. With a Fury and a Human engineer. It was glorious.

So, if the Locust's damage was buffed to be the same as the Tempest, I think they would end up being redundant (and its clip-size would favor the Tempest anyway), so I still think the Locust would need a little bit more to stand out. Either more damage, or less weight, or something.

[PowderTrail]

Maybe 'cause Locust killed 2 presidents it has dmg multiplier against leader-class enemies?

But seriously, +1 to smaller clip and higher dmg per round idea. SMG's in general need to be more varied.

[Dominator454]

Yeah, i remember ME2 insanity. I was an infiltrator and recruited Kasumi asap and got the locust. I never used my sniper again in that playthrough unless there was no ammo or heavily armored enemies. I had high hopes for it in ME3, but i was disappointed.

[Lieber]

This weapon in ME2 was a beast, it was just an amazing thing added to Kasumi's Stolen Memory DLC. It's true it does suck horribly in ME3.

[jordie3000]

theillusiveman11 wrote...

It doesn't feel like the gun that killed two presidents. It did in ME2, but not in ME3.

Before I got the Hurricane, I equipped it for this sole purpose (the two presidents bit, not it being lame). 

[Ziegrif]

A bit ago I tried to pump as much damage out of teh Locust as I could.
It definetly needs a damage boost everything else seems fine IMO just a lot of damage buffs are needed.

Modifié par Ziegrif, 03 août 2012 - 09:42 .

[Rokayt]

Related.

The one of the strongest gun classes in the game can only make the Locusts burst DPS just as good as the Tempest, however, the Locusts Sustained DPS is still far worse.

It would take at least a 55% buff to give the Locust an appreciable role.

Modifié par Rokayt, 03 août 2012 - 09:46 .

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Let us all bow our heads and have a moment of silence for the true Locust, the Locust of ME2.

[WMcAlister]

By all means, buff it. Currently my Locust is only good for competing with the dust collecting skills of my Incisor.  There are only a handful of guns in this game I will argue flat out suck, and the Locust is one of them.

Modifié par WMcAlister, 03 août 2012 - 09:51 .

[Eelectrica]

If Bioware had a sense of humour, they'd stealth buff it for a week so as one clip with all the SMG mods could take down a gold atlas - and see if anyone actually notices.

Of course their EA masters would never allow this. It's a pity microtransaction ruin fun.

[Rokayt]

Ok. So I added more math to my Locust thread.

The Minimum amount of damage it would need to do for it to fairly compete with the Tempest like is around 67 damage per bullet. It would still be a significantly weaker weapon then the Tempest, but its accuracy would allow it to fairly compete with the Tempest as a sidearm choice.

Thats a little bit less then 60% more damage. Food for thought.

Modifié par Rokayt, 03 août 2012 - 10:12 .

[Shotgun Nova]

I agree, the Locust needs a buff. In ME2, it was fantastic! High-profile accuracy, Good damage and a fair rate-of-fire. It was a weapon you could rely on and wouldn't quit out. Now in ME3, you can only count on the accuracy and fair rate-of-fire.

A few suggestions: Increase clip size, Increase damage, Increase DPS etc. The list goes on.

[lazuli]

I miss the ME2 Locust.  The ME3 Locust is pathetic, but I think we need to be wary of power creep.

[Rokayt]

The Locust is so forgotten that people forget to mention its forgotteness on the forums of forgotteness.

lazuli wrote...

I miss the ME2 Locust.  The ME3 Locust is pathetic, but I think we need to be wary of power creep.

Yes, However, my buff would actually still leave it as a weapon that is weaker then the Tempest. That is pretty impressive for a gun to still be weaker after a 60% buff.

Modifié par Rokayt, 03 août 2012 - 10:24 .

[Ziegrif]

Rokayt wrote...

The Locust is so forgotten that people forget to mention its forgotteness on the forums of forgotteness.

lazuli wrote...

I miss the ME2 Locust.  The ME3 Locust is pathetic, but I think we need to be wary of power creep.

Yes, However, my buff would actually still leave it as a weapon that is weaker then the Tempest. That is pretty impressive for a gun to still be weaker after a 60% buff.

How about we do your buff and then quadruple it's rate of fire?
It'd have a huge burst fire rate go through it's clip fast.
But it'd be like a bucket of water that you'd hafta go refill at an ammo box cuz you shot it out in under 5 seconds or something? I dunno... just throwing that out there. It'd be unique then at least.

Also... gotta hate these bad copies of ME2 weaponry... wonder where Shepard stashed the original and it's perfect copy.

[Rokayt]

Ziegrif wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

The Locust is so forgotten that people forget to mention its forgotteness on the forums of forgotteness.

lazuli wrote...

I miss the ME2 Locust.  The ME3 Locust is pathetic, but I think we need to be wary of power creep.

Yes, However, my buff would actually still leave it as a weapon that is weaker then the Tempest. That is pretty impressive for a gun to still be weaker after a 60% buff.

How about we do your buff and then quadruple it's rate of fire?
It'd have a huge burst fire rate go through it's clip fast.
But it'd be like a bucket of water that you'd hafta go refill at an ammo box cuz you shot it out in under 5 seconds or something? I dunno... just throwing that out there. It'd be unique then at least.

Also... gotta hate these bad copies of ME2 weaponry... wonder where Shepard stashed the original and it's perfect copy.

Well, quadrupling its rate of fire would make it Un-Locust like.

Giving it a more damage per shot then the Tempest would be more like the KASSA Locust.

[Barneyk]

Nissun wrote...

How can it be improved?

Damage needs a substantial boost, or a moderate boost along an increased base clip size. Because 20 underpowered bullets won't do it, so you either give it more quantity or more quality.

Give it 32-36 bullets without a damage increase to begin with and lets see where we can go from there!