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#176
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Rokayt wrote...

Meatiershower wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Forgotten for another week....

Sadness.



Not just the Locust either. Still, it is hard to believe their stats don't support buffing this weapon, amongst others.


Underpowered weapons generate a lower statistical anomaly then an overpowered weapon: Overpowered weapons screw people who don't use them. Thus, overuse is extriemely prevalant.

Underpowered weapons screw those who do use them. Thus, underuse is not as prevalant as overuse.

Thus. We must make both outcry, and math if we want a locust buff.

Lets put outcry here....

Meanwhile.... Ill carry the math.

Aethyl wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Might want to start a Locust- Buffer revolution.


We could do some recorded gold runs with it, on soldier classes, to show our appreciation of this weapon. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]


The Best video would be a side by side comparison of a max damage Destroyer killing a trooper with it, and a combat engineer killing a Trooper with a Tempest.

It will take the same amount of time.


Guess I could do it.

#177
Rokayt

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Aethyl wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Meatiershower wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Forgotten for another week....

Sadness.



Not just the Locust either. Still, it is hard to believe their stats don't support buffing this weapon, amongst others.


Underpowered weapons generate a lower statistical anomaly then an overpowered weapon: Overpowered weapons screw people who don't use them. Thus, overuse is extriemely prevalant.

Underpowered weapons screw those who do use them. Thus, underuse is not as prevalant as overuse.

Thus. We must make both outcry, and math if we want a locust buff.

Lets put outcry here....

Meanwhile.... Ill carry the math.

Aethyl wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Might want to start a Locust- Buffer revolution.


We could do some recorded gold runs with it, on soldier classes, to show our appreciation of this weapon. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]


The Best video would be a side by side comparison of a max damage Destroyer killing a trooper with it, and a normal human engineer killing a Trooper with a Tempest.

It will take the same amount of time.


Guess I could do it.


Spec for max gun damage, with EB and stability on both characters.

You will be underwhelmed.

#178
BloodClaw95

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It's not forgotten, it's just not as good as it used to be. It's in the back of everyones mind, sleeping.

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BloodClaw95 wrote...

It's not forgotten, it's just not as good as it used to be. It's in the back of everyones mind, sleeping.


Isn't something that is not remembered forgotten?

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I'll start using the Locust on all my Silver characters in protest of yet another week without buffs.

#181
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vonSlash wrote...

I'll start using the Locust on all my Silver characters in protest of yet another week without buffs.


Actually. Its a brilliant Idea.

If we mass locust use....


We might get attention drawn to it.

Modifié par Rokayt, 08 août 2012 - 09:32 .


#182
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Every weapon cant be buffed to be Gold/Platinum viable without changing the diffculties of Bronze or Silver, which is used by the majority of the player base. I dont understand why everyone thinks that every single weapon should be able to one shot kill a mook on Gold. You are never going to see it. New players need a challenge, and they wont get it if everything can wipe out Bronze enemies in one fell swoop. Why do you think Arc grenades and the Pirahna were nerfed. Or the Typhoon. Not because forumers cried for it, but they were OP on the lower levels. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

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GallowsPole wrote...

Every weapon cant be buffed to be Gold/Platinum viable without changing the diffculties of Bronze or Silver, which is used by the majority of the player base. I dont understand why everyone thinks that every single weapon should be able to one shot kill a mook on Gold. You are never going to see it. New players need a challenge, and they wont get it if everything can wipe out Bronze enemies in one fell swoop. Why do you think Arc grenades and the Pirahna were nerfed. Or the Typhoon. Not because forumers cried for it, but they were OP on the lower levels. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out.


Actually, they were nerfed for being OP'd on Gold, too.

Buffing the Locust (which is currently the weakest gun in the game) up to the level of the Tempest (which currently delivers middle-of-the-road performance) would hardly make the Locust OP'd on SIlver, let alone Gold or Platinum. As for Bronze, balance changes shouldn't be directed towards the lowest difficulty on account of it being radically easier than the other three.

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GallowsPole wrote...

I dont understand why everyone thinks that every single weapon should be able to one shot kill a mook on Gold.

Oh hai dar mistar strawman.

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I have founded the Locust Olympics.

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Rokayt wrote...

I have founded the Locust Olympics.


Joined, let's show that this weapon needs some love.

#187
Yajuu Omoi

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Maybe they have a plan to release a new SMG in DLC...oh...wiat...did that for SP...

Maybe they'll bring it to MP with ANOTHER DLC... *crossing fingers*

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Aethyl wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

I have founded the Locust Olympics.


Joined, let's show that this weapon needs some love.


Alright. Perfect.

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Rokayt wrote...
Underpowered weapons generate a lower statistical anomaly then an overpowered weapon: Overpowered weapons screw people who don't use them. Thus, overuse is extriemely prevalant.


Mebbe, I guess. You would figure that before the weekly change, someone would ask, "OK, what guns are used the least?"

Then someone would check, and say, "Well, four people used the Locust this week, and three of them switched to thier Eagle back-up weapon after wave 1 - all four were Bronze players"

Then the first guy would say, "Geez - maybe the gun just sucks and we might bump it a tiny bit."

They could do that for all the crappy guns. Not saying for Gold level parity with the more outstanding weapons, but around a Silver level of decent damage maybe...

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GallowsPole wrote...

Every weapon cant be buffed to be Gold/Platinum viable without changing the diffculties of Bronze or Silver, which is used by the majority of the player base. I dont understand why everyone thinks that every single weapon should be able to one shot kill a mook on Gold. You are never going to see it. New players need a challenge, and they wont get it if everything can wipe out Bronze enemies in one fell swoop. Why do you think Arc grenades and the Pirahna were nerfed. Or the Typhoon. Not because forumers cried for it, but they were OP on the lower levels. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out.


Read the thread. Nobody has asked for the Locust to be extremely powerful. We just want a reasonable improvement of the weapon.

Because, as it has been stated many times already, being an uncommon doesn't mean it has to be "bad".

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Rokayt wrote...

I have founded the Locust Olympics.


I LOVED the thing in ME2, HATE it in ME3...when i found it, the Phalanx and the Mattock in SP I was like *HOLY CRAP!! YES!!!!!!!! I LOVE THESE THINGS!!!" tried to USE them...and cried. They were THAT bad in comparison...

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Hey, Id like it buffed too along with a number of common weapons. You wont see them buffed. People will see its worth on Silver and start buying MS points for better grade stuff.

/strawman

#193
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I haven't bumped this thread today....

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Darth Cyrax NH

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Tempest + Recoil System = Locust with more damage, larger clip size, more reserve ammo, a higher rate of fire, and the only downside is a slightly longer reload animation(which can be cancelled).
There is no way you can spec the Locust to compete with any other SMGs in any way(well, maybe the Shuriken. Maybe. Hmm. Anyone feel like doing the math? Shuriken vs. Locust. GOGOGO!)

Why is Bioware so adamant about keeping the Locust absolute garbage? Back in ME2 Mercs feared the dreaded PEWPEW of the Locust. Now everyone just laughs and tells bad jokes about it.

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Darth Cyrax NH

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EDIT: Oops.  Ignoooore ME!

This was definitely not an accidental double post:whistle:

Modifié par Darth Cyrax NH, 21 août 2012 - 06:05 .


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ive been rocking the Locust as of late.

Capacity and Heat Sink! man....good times. accuracy that cant be beat!!


just wish it did more damage.  smg gear and smg amp.....still...alil more would be cool

Modifié par corporal doody, 21 août 2012 - 05:25 .