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Electric/Biotic Slash overpowered?


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S9ilent

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Does anyone else feel slash is a bit (read a lot) over powered (vs other powers)?

Short version:

Biotic slash is better than shockwave (closest comparable power?) in terms of damage, splash, ability to incapaciate ("real" force), range, cool down. In short, it is just better

Electric slash has weaknesses compared to overload/energy drain (cloest comparable power? sort of...) but is more useful in more scenarios thanks to much higher splash damage, ability to incapacitate ("real" force), cool down.
(A single target speced overload can be stronger vs ONLY shields and barriers. Energy drain has shield buffing bonuses. Overload/energy drain have unlimited range)



Long version:

Electric slash vs overload/energy drain
--Overload can spec higher single antishield/barrier single target dam
--ED does less than both but had shield buffing effects
--Electric slash has a slowish animation
==Comparable damage vs shields/barrier (each has their own pro's con's)
++Fast rechage speed
++Slash has HUGE splash damage
++Slash has force (why can it knock over Pyro's?) (Technically I would say it has lift + force. e.g. Shockwave has force but no lift so enemies are not on the ground)
++Slash goes through walls
++Vs non shields, Slash has stronger base damage (and thus more actual damage)
++Slash is better at setting of combo's (hits more targets with more damage) ---> is viable for fire explosion builds. But given how strong electric slash is against all weaker enemies, the fire is redundant
++Slash has melee attacks included (Could break through shield gate) (Not a huge bennefit, buts its nice to know a husk isn't going to jump you from infront when your playing out the slow animation)


Electric slash vs Shockwave
--Shockwave can lift 1 target for longer. But this only ever works against the first target your hit AND that first target must be unprotected. (i.e. If you hit a shielded unit first, then an unprotected, it will NOT lift anything) This target is also setup for biotic explosions but you will never recharge quick enough, also it is visibly glitchy if your not the host making it near impossible to detonate solo
--Shockwave can do a high dam biotic explosion.
--Slash has a slowish animation
++Fast rechage speed
++Slash has more range
++Slash has more "real" force
++Slash has more damage vs everything EXCEPT a shockwaves biotic explosion vs armour
++Slash has melee attacks included


Biotic slash vs Shockwave
--Shockwave can lift 1 target for longer
--Shockwave can do a high dam biotic explosion
--Slash has a slowish animation
++Fast rechage speed
++Has more "real" force (i.e. unprotected enemies that are hit are actually forced to the ground)
++Has melee attacks included
++Slash has more damage vs everything (2x) EXCEPT a shockwaves biotic explosion vs armour
++More range


One point against the Slash power is that they are only available on the rare characters, but I don't feel this justifies their stats.

Modifié par S9ilent, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:51 .


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darkpassenger2342

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the word overpowered is going to make people start jumping off of cliffs.
NO ITS NOT OVERPOWERED

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:46 .


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Mysteryman2000

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Who care it is on an N7 Character! Go play some platinum and watch how much damage it does and ask yourself: will this save my life?

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Smash much?
It has a longer animation for similar damages. So I don't see your point.

Modifié par Aethyl, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:53 .


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kevchy

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It has a very long animation that propels you forward, not to mention you are completely vulnerable.

It might do more harm than good if there is a Banshee in front of you.

Damage wise, I think it is fair for that amount of risk you need to take.

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LegionofRannoch

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why is biotic slash compared to shockwave? its more like smash that cant prime and takes longer to use.

electic slash is for CC, overload and energy drain are ranged instantanious powers whereas slash is a short mid range power that takes a few seconds to cast.

not even the slightest over powered at all. these powers complete the characters design.

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3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

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Don't you think this "overpowered" nonsense is getting a little old now?

Modifié par Hellfire257, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:02 .


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Dynamik78

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belive me or not on both classes who have it I used it just a bunch of times and respecced without it on Shadow :P
buffing electric slash making it an "on the spot" animation makes much more sense

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Senshirou

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Get this guy outta here!

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SkreeMalicious

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not to be rude but people should let BW make their game and stop trying to do their jobs for them.

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Grumpy Old Wizard

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No, shockwave is underpowered.

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Modifié par fatmancory, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:06 .


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AnimaMachinae

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Sure, Electric/ Biotic Slashes are overpowered... ON BRONZE!!!. It deals a fair amount of damage with the risk you take esp. on Plat

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TeamLexana

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I don't really use either that much. Leaves the squishy characters it comes on way too open for damage they can't take. At least shockwave casts quickly and smash's animation can be canceled by rolling or heavy melee.

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JiceDuresh

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Overused is the word you're looking for. Shockwave at least doesn't make you dance out of cover and make you stare at Atlases before you can roll away.

I'm in the nerf camp, but I don't think these two are a problem, other than needing a longer cooldown just so noobs don't just spam them and ruin the game for everyone else around them.

Modifié par JiceDuresh, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:12 .


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DeathIsHere

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You can't just compare powers like you are. That's really not fair. Look at the classes as a whole, since the powers are class specific. What other power does the slayer have? It has Biotic Charge and Phase Disruptor. Charge can get you killed and phase disruptor isn't all that good. So a decent power in biotic slash is kinda needed. It's the ranged power for the Slayer without draining his barriers. It's better than shockwave because the classes that use shockwave have much better accompanying powers. Some can even set up their own BEs (Human Adept with Warp and Shockwave both detonation specced = way more overpowered than biotic slash on a character with no way to set up a BE to detonate).

Electric Slash is gimmicky. It's fine where it is, Overload and Energy Drain both have advantages (they hit instantly, have zero animation time, overload can be specced to hit multiple targets and energy drain restores shields).

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Lunatic_NEo

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Try to say it the other way: Shockwave, Overload and Energy Drain need buffs.

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N7 Banshee Bait

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S9ilent wrote...
Electric/Biotic Slash overpowered?



I sure hope so!  OP is GOOD!

Modifié par Steelgrave, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:12 .


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IAmARad

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 .....  Your mom's overpowered.....



:)

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xWARx DEMON

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Can I has what op is having?

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Blind2Society

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You do mean underpowered right?

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snk575

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SHHH... you'll wake the nerf monsters!!! jk
but seriously, i think its ok.