That's the problem with this game and why all these nerf threads. What may not work on Gold/Platinum, can definitely be OP on Bronze/Silver. Since most of the community plays the latter, then I can understand the calls for nerfs. BW really needs to be able to do a better job of dumbing down characters/weapons for use on Bronze/Silver and then they are at full potential for Gold/Platinum.
Electric/Biotic Slash overpowered?
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#52
Posté 26 juillet 2012 - 11:19
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lol
If anything, those two powers need a slight buff.
If anything, those two powers need a slight buff.
#53
Posté 26 juillet 2012 - 11:20
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Personally, I think the Nerfers are overpowered and need to the nerfed. Pushing them into oncoming traffic should fix the issue.
#55
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 12:27
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Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...
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You can't just compare powers like you are. That's really not fair. Look at the classes as a whole, since the powers are class specific. What other power does the slayer have? It has Biotic Charge and Phase Disruptor. Charge can get you killed and phase disruptor isn't all that good. So a decent power in biotic slash is kinda needed. It's the ranged power for the Slayer without draining his barriers. It's better than shockwave because the classes that use shockwave have much better accompanying powers. Some can even set up their own BEs (Human Adept with Warp and Shockwave both detonation specced = way more overpowered than biotic slash on a character with no way to set up a BE to detonate).
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Nah, not even close. Human Adepts are generally acknowledged to be the celler dweller adepts. The worst. To take the biotic explosion evolution on shockwave the adept must sacrifice the range evoution. The squishy adept must be within 16 meters. As has been pointed out already, Biotic slash is superior to shockwave in every conceivable way. And of course it's power is multiplied by tactical cloak. Unlike a Shadow, the squishy adept can't disappear or teleport away.
But I don't want to see it nerfed. I want shockwave buffed.
Shadow doesn't have Biotic Slash, it has Electric Slash which I don't think has any effect on BEs whatsoever. The Slayer has the Biotic Slash, so no TC bonus. My point was that the Human Adept can make a more overpowered combination than the Slayer. Not that the Human Adept is overpowered. Shockwave+Warp is better than just Biotic Slash, which is the Slayer's problem. If you don't have a biotic teammate, you have no Biotic Explosions at all so Biotic Slash needs to be a bit more powerful.
Agree on the shockwave buff though.
#56
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 12:29
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fatmancory wrote...
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#57
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 12:32
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Please don't compare biotic slash to shockwave. yes it's similar, but shockwave is awful.
nobody screamed overpowered when lash came out, just because it flattened pull.
nobody screamed overpowered when lash came out, just because it flattened pull.
#58
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 12:33
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Nah. They're pretty much both what shockwave should have been.
#59
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 12:33
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They are not OP because of the wind up and cool down.
#60
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 12:35
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Relix28 wrote...
lol
If anything, those two powers need a slight buff.
Yeah, they aren't very strong. The only thing they really have going for them is the fact that they go through walls.
#61
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 12:35
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robarcool wrote...
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#62
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 12:37
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NO
JUST STOP
YOU PEOPLE HAVE RUINED ENOUGH
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE IT STOP
JUST STOP
YOU PEOPLE HAVE RUINED ENOUGH
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE IT STOP
#63
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 12:47
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Oh look at all the protective power gamers coming out of the woodwork. "If you nerf my overpowered power that will make me crap at this game and sad".
For the AOE that it has it does way too much damage. One shotting multiple guys on gold, yeah that's thats not overpowered at all.
I could understand if it only did lots of damage in the actually sword arc, but that's not how it works.
For the AOE that it has it does way too much damage. One shotting multiple guys on gold, yeah that's thats not overpowered at all.
I could understand if it only did lots of damage in the actually sword arc, but that's not how it works.
#64
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 01:57
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it doesn't one-shot multiple assault troopers on silver. best I've managed was a triple kill on them, but that was after hosing them down with the harrier.
The only change I would maybe think was a reasonable plan would be to reduce damage if the slash has gone through a wall. otherwise, the skill is genuinely one which requires a hint of skill thanks to the wind-up, and I'd hate to see the benefits of mastering it go away.
The only change I would maybe think was a reasonable plan would be to reduce damage if the slash has gone through a wall. otherwise, the skill is genuinely one which requires a hint of skill thanks to the wind-up, and I'd hate to see the benefits of mastering it go away.
#66
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 02:06
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Disagreeably, no. Easier to spam shockwave. Ask my Batarian Sentinal brother.
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#67
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 02:07
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I don't know if I'd say they are overpowered, but god am I sick of how much people spam them.
#68
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 02:10
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The only thing that seems a bit much, or rather I just don't understand, is why Electric Slash can knockdown Geth Pyros, when NO OTHER POWER IN THE GAME can do this.
This should be an ability of Smash and/or Shockwave. Electric Slash doesn't deserve this ability with the silly range that it has.
This should be an ability of Smash and/or Shockwave. Electric Slash doesn't deserve this ability with the silly range that it has.
#69
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 02:11
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Have you seen how slow the animation is? Shockwave and overload are way better. The short cooldown doesn't matter because the cooldown doesn't start til the end of the animation. You can do way more damage with smash.
#70
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 02:12
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Use it on Gold/Platinum, THEN see if it feels overpowered. It has drawbacks, and just b/c the Slayer/Shadow can spam it through a wall doesn't make it OP.
Plenty of powers cam "one shot" multiple enemies on gold if they're damaged. Biotic Slash won't even fully strip the shields off a Centurian.
Plenty of powers cam "one shot" multiple enemies on gold if they're damaged. Biotic Slash won't even fully strip the shields off a Centurian.
#71
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 02:13
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Metal Vile wrote...
The only thing that seems a bit much, or rather I just don't understand, is why Electric Slash can knockdown Geth Pyros, when NO OTHER POWER IN THE GAME can do this.
This should be an ability of Smash and/or Shockwave. Electric Slash doesn't deserve this ability with the silly range that it has.
Wow, didn't know this. Thanks for the info. Will test it out tonight when I get home.
#72
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 02:16
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holdenagincourt wrote...
Metal Vile wrote...
The only thing that seems a bit much, or rather I just don't understand, is why Electric Slash can knockdown Geth Pyros, when NO OTHER POWER IN THE GAME can do this.
This should be an ability of Smash and/or Shockwave. Electric Slash doesn't deserve this ability with the silly range that it has.
Wow, didn't know this. Thanks for the info. Will test it out tonight when I get home.
See it all the time in FBW/G/G matches. N7 Shadow is the new Salarian Engineer. Spam Electric Slash through the wall behind the left console; enemies coming down the indoor staircase can't even get up off the ground. They just lie in a pile at the bottom of the stairs as you hurl grenades at them or shoot them in the face.
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#73
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 02:17
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Thanks for putting time into this thread op but...Y?
The slash animation doesn't make u invincible and u have to spec into worthwhile damage or you can spec into longer ranger and wide radius which means you can hit more mooks but with no more than half the damage of a fully damage-specced slash.
The slash animation doesn't make u invincible and u have to spec into worthwhile damage or you can spec into longer ranger and wide radius which means you can hit more mooks but with no more than half the damage of a fully damage-specced slash.
#75
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 02:18
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Metal Vile wrote...
The only thing that seems a bit much, or rather I just don't understand, is why Electric Slash can knockdown Geth Pyros, when NO OTHER POWER IN THE GAME can do this.
This should be an ability of Smash and/or Shockwave. Electric Slash doesn't deserve this ability with the silly range that it has.
Maybe a benefit of being an electrical tech power against Synthetics? *shrugs*
BTW...what is it with certain people not wanting us to kill things in this game?
