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The Shuriken X with SMG High-Velocity Barrel and SMG Recoil System is now better then the Vindicator X and is best overall of the Common weapon.


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soultaker65

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With SMG High-Velocity Barrel and SMG Recoil System the Shuriken X is now the best Common weapon to use, and the third best SMG in the game next to the Hurricane and Hornet.

And before you say no go try it yourself and tell me it's not at least a good back up weapon.

The best way to test this is to do three matches on gold, silver, or bronze do one with the Vindicator with Assault Rifle Stability Damper and Assault Rifle Piercing Mod, one with the Hornet with SMG High-Velocity Barrel and SMG Recoil System, and one with the Shuriken with SMG High-Velocity Barrel and SMG Recoil System.

No Consumables, no gear that boosts damage, same character, same enemy, and try for headshots at all times. See which one kills faster and there you go.

The Shuriken X is not a good Main weapon but it is a good side-arm. a whole clip does 2-3 bars of armor damage to a Atlas on gold with no damage boosts of any kind which doesn't sound like alot but when you take into account how weak it was before these two mods it's amazing.

The Hornet X with SMG High-Velocity Barrel and SMG Recoil System is still better then the Shuriken X, but the Hornet has to be at least level 7-8 before it better then the Shuriken X which is amazing when you take into account the fact that the Shuriken is Common and the Hornet is Rare.

The Shuriken X is better then the Vindicator X with the same mods and is the best overall of the of the Common weapon but it's still a side-arm, if you go in thinking it's a Harrier or a Piranha you will be disappointed.

Modifié par soultaker65, 28 juillet 2012 - 04:09 .


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GroverA125

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I looked at it in the manifest a while ago, paused for a second, then laughed.

Dafuq did I just see? What happened to it? When did it suddenly get a massive damage buff? I can't think that just the HVB would do that to it...

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darkpassenger2342

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in defense of soultaker, hes not the first person to say this.
as crazy as it sounds ive played a couple matches with guys that used this ( brought as a backup primarily) and did well....
i suppose if you could hit something with every bullet it does alot of damage.. i saw a guy straight up kill a banshee with it.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:23 .


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Bhatair

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I've actually just never considered it before. I'll probably give this a try later if only because it could prove entertaining.

Also I weep for the vindicator :(

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The Shuriken is my favourite gun. If you join a lobby with me in it, there's a 95% chance that I have it equipped.

Also, you don't need the recoil mod, you can control it yourself with practice as it is extremely predictable ;)

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xcrunr1647

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Hm.

This demands experimentation.

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soultaker65

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GroverA125 wrote...

I looked at it in the manifest a while ago, paused for a second, then laughed.

Dafuq did I just see? What happened to it? When did it suddenly get a massive damage buff? I can't think that just the HVB would do that to it...


I know right, put the High-Velocity Barrel on it and wow it's way better then the Vindicator X put the Recoil System on it and it's as accurate as the Locust.

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MrDaniels1985

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Well I would like some ninja stars for my Shadow so I might give this a try.

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DivineAtropos

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The Shuriken certainly saw an upgrade with the HVB, but it's still leagues behind the Hornet.

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BINO973

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Meh, the Hornet is just an overall better gun IMO.

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ZachNyeScienceGuy

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 Holy CRAP it's a miracle... :crying:

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Nissun

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I need to try this.

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Omnifarious Nef

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Holy crap, looking at the manifest, only like 3 weapons beat it for sustained DPS, the Hornet, Pirahna and another I can't recall the name too at the moment.

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OneTrueShot

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THAT MAN IS A TROLL.

Just tested it against Gold/Geth. It's still about as effective as the locust.

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Omnifarious Nef

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OneTrueShot wrote...

THAT MAN IS A TROLL.

Just tested it against Gold/Geth. It's still about as effective as the locust.

The charts say otherwise, it's dps is like 650 something, while the Locust is near 298.

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darkpassenger2342

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OneTrueShot wrote...

THAT MAN IS A TROLL.

Just tested it against Gold/Geth. It's still about as effective as the locust.

 stuff like this derails threads for no reason, ive seen this guy post legit stuff before, he did the particle rifle with thousands of people saying its total trash thread too.
 i dont see why he would just make it up for his own amusement.
im going with op and nefarious here and ill try it later.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:50 .


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soultaker65

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DivineAtropos wrote...

The Shuriken certainly saw an upgrade with the HVB, but it's still leagues behind the Hornet.


Actually the Shuriken does more damage to armor then the Hornet, it's Clip Size is bigger, it's Recoil is lower, it's ammo Capacity is higher, it Weight is lower. So besides base damage the Shuriken wins overall.

(it's Sustained DPS and Reload Cancelled DPS are higher) my Manifest said it higher but I'm not sure.

Modifié par soultaker65, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:54 .


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Ashen One

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xcrunr1647 wrote...

Hm.

This demands experimentation.



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Omnifarious Nef

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Shuriken: Sustained DPS 652.8, Reload Cancelled DPS 737.5, Burst DPS 885.5

And the only two other weapons with higher sustained DPS are

Hornet: Sustained DPS 753.6

Piranha: Sustained DPS 737.9

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krizalid9999

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I hate the hornet , the shuriken is a nice gun but it was too weak for me tyo use , if it changed somehow I'll test that today.

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JiceDuresh

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NeferiusX3 wrote...
Shuriken:  Reload Cancelled DPS 737.5



Hahaha, who has the grace and bullet time to reload cancel the Shurken, you can barely tell when you've stoped to reload.

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Jay_Hoxtatron

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Ashen Earth wrote...

xcrunr1647 wrote...

Hm.

This demands experimentation.



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Astartes Marine

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DivineAtropos wrote...
The Shuriken certainly saw an upgrade with the HVB, but it's still leagues behind the Hornet.


HOW?  The Shuriken is lighter, has far less recoil, nearly none with the new mod, FAR more ammo per clip and in reserve.  In a prolonged firefight the Shuriken will outlast the Hornet.

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Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

xcrunr1647 wrote...

Hm.

This demands experimentation.


For science!!

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I don't- I CAN'T- believe this is true. Any of it.

This entire discussion is a conspiracy to get to me to try it and look foolish in front of everyone.

A decent smg... A decent common... but, a decent common smg? Its hard to even type that out...