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[Conniving_Eagle]

Festae9 wrote...

I keep going back and forth which style I prefer. Both are fantastic. Bioware gives me goosebumps through the characters and strong story but I am transfixed when playing the elder scrolls games. I love the crafting. When I get bored I got to work on the forge and create ebony armor sets for the guards of Riverwood where I hang my hat. Sometimes I go bow hunting and camping in isolated locations. It's rad stuff ..Also you get a fairly good companion in Serana through the dawnguard DLC. We've had some good adventures.

It was fun to read people on the TES forums talk about what an interesting follower Serana was (those who hadn't played Mass Effect).

Followers definitely need more depth though. New Vegas had the winning formula.

[xsdob]

I think the word EVERY is not being used right here.

Graphics are better in ME3, as are the combat which isn't just sword button mashing, weak and underpowered magic, and terrible aiming mechanics for the bow and arrow that strains my eyes all the time. The voice acting in mass effect 3 is better as well, and having the player character able to be heard talking is a very great experience and helps my immersion much more than text based dialogue.

Also, why do I have to get sold into the deadras service just to complete the sidequest? and why does it not get brought up at all, even by other deadra's?

You'd think they wouldn't like having to share their victims soul with another god.

[riesenwiesel]

Sorry, no laser guns no better game in every way.

Case closed.

[xsdob]

Exactly.

[Hey]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Festae9 wrote...

I keep going back and forth which style I prefer. Both are fantastic. Bioware gives me goosebumps through the characters and strong story but I am transfixed when playing the elder scrolls games. I love the crafting. When I get bored I got to work on the forge and create ebony armor sets for the guards of Riverwood where I hang my hat. Sometimes I go bow hunting and camping in isolated locations. It's rad stuff ..Also you get a fairly good companion in Serana through the dawnguard DLC. We've had some good adventures.

It was fun to read people on the TES forums talk about what an interesting follower Serana was (those who hadn't played Mass Effect).

Followers definitely need more depth though. New Vegas had the winning formula.

It really is the missing piece in the TES games.  New Vegas is awesome in that regard for sure 

[10K]

I am Sovereign wrote...

mosesarose wrote...

well, lets thank all those fans who wanted Multiplayer. Bioware apperently listened to them and they got their awesome MP experiance that they were dying for. Too bad SP had to suffer on their account.

I don't remember a huge fan outcry for multiplayer before ME3...

Well I do, even though most of the outcry was centered around making the campaign MP

[I am Sovereign]

riesenwiesel wrote...

Sorry, no laser guns no better game in every way.

Case closed.

Dragons > Laser Guns

[MassStorm]

I like Skyrim and sincerely dislike ME3 but i would not compare the two games; on the one side (Skyrim) you have an open world RPG with loads of secondary quests and possibilities to roleplay, the focus there is on role-playing and playing the game you like and being the one you want to be.

On the other side (ME3) you have a closed TPS with supposedly RPG elements (???) with a defined story in which your choices don't matter and the story follows a specific logic and conclusion that you have to deal with. This game has also a MP mode to compensate the absence of side-quests. It is much more similar to games like "SpecOps: The Line" or "Inversion".

So OP it depends really on what you are expecting in a game. If you want RPG don't expect that from BW any time soon now....except for MMO but that is a different story

Modifié par MassStorm, 26 juillet 2012 - 05:10 .

[S.A.K]

Both are very good games and Skyrim is better than ME3 in SOME WAYS. Frankly ME series is my favorite ever and Skyrim would be second. Mass Effect is better optimized and far less buggy. Skyrim gives much more hours of gameplay. But Skyrim characters are far weaker than ME once. Most characters use the same dialogue and so on. Also Skyrim don't give much to think about. While both are RPGs, I don't think they are even in the same class of games.

[Monster20862]

Now just imagine if skyrim had the budget that ME3 had...

[Herr Igor]

Jamie9 wrote...

Herr Igor wrote...
I've said it once and I will say it again.

ME3 is as much a RPG as Call Of Duty is one as well.

ME3 is focused on MULTIPLAYER.

The SP is there simply because they couldn't come up with a good enough reason to scrap it completely.

You're very mistaken. Call of Duty and Mass Effect have completely different priorities in what they want the audience to achieve, leading to two very different experiences.

I have played two matches of MP in total, to see what it was like. That is all. ME3 to me is solely the SP, and it's great.

I'm not saying that MULTIPLAYER is your personal focus. Of course not. Not every ME3 owner is a complete retard.

WHAT I AM SAYING is that the focus that BIOWARE decided to give to ME3 is on its MULTIPLAYER mode.

IT IS UNDENIABLE.

How many MULTIPLAYER DLCs and MULTIPLAYER EVENTS have you seem so far?

How many SP DLCs have we seem?


Just scroll to the top of your page and see for yourself how little focus BIOWARE applies to this idiotic MULTIPLAYER.

[CaptainBlackGold]

I really should not admit this, but I have almost 1500 hours playing Skyrim - and only one play through of ME-3. I have tried repeatedly to start a new run of ME-3 but always give up after Mars because, "What's the point I am only going to end up with the same three choices in the end."

The ME series has far superior voice-acting, richer, deeper characters and a more unified plot - but, the danger of that is creating a plot (and an ending) that ticks off so many of your customers that people end up hating your game.

Of course, it does not matter to Bioware how many hours I invest in their game because they only get paid once - I bought it and they have my money just as Bethesda does. But the difference is that I intend to buy every single piece of Skyrim DLC as it become available for the PC and right now, have no interest in anything for the ME-3 universe.

[Conniving_Eagle]

I wonder if Alduin could eat all the Reapers...

Magic >Technology after all...

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 26 juillet 2012 - 05:12 .

[clarkusdarkus]

Marauder Shieldz wrote...

I am Sovereign wrote...

 How could Bioware look at an amazing RPG experience like Skyrim, which was released November 2011, look at ME3 while it was finished with it's lazily thrown together story, and think "This'll do!"? And then release it in March 2012.

One would think that Skyrim would show Bioware that an amazing single player is what people want, not a hastily thrown together mess. The only reason for playing it more than once is the Multiplayer, a standard survival challenge mode. If I wanted to play that, I would play GOW3.

Skyrim > ME3 in EVERY way.

Oh, and when people were complaining that Fallout 3 had a crappy ending, Bethesda said "Ok, we'll change it so your character lives, no problem." Why is that so difficult for you, Bioware?

Only thing Skyrim / Fallout lacks are decent characters and Romance. Apart from that, they are superior to ME3 in every way.

This......Skyrim is amazing in everyway other than characters to connect with like ME.

[S.A.K]

I am Sovereign wrote...

riesenwiesel wrote...

Sorry, no laser guns no better game in every way.

Case closed.

Dragons > Laser Guns

I know you are joking, but fighting dragons tend to get really old really fast. After a few hours of playing they are just annoying as hell and no challenge. Btw I played Skyrim for 150+ hours and still counting.

[iamweaver]

It's pretty clear that the OP doesn't understand the difference between the two games.

Folks like the ME story lines, because they are story lines. There is some variance depending on player choices, but what makes the game great is the depth of character available in your NPC squad mates.

To date, there's absolutely no way to create that kind of depth in an open-ended gaming system like Skyrim.

This is because at the present time, it requires very good voice actors who manually create the NPC responses to your actions - which must, of course, follow a script. No gaming company is going to create the kind of multi-branching script that would simulate a more open-ended world like Skyrim - which is why Skyrim is flat when it comes to character depth.

I'm not sure how you can really compare the two games, other than to make a personal preference based on which style of RPG you prefer.

This doesn't even include the third type of game - the "real", traditional RPG, which has a Game Master who can actually respond to player actions in real time - but that of course has no graphical elements, and requires the players to create everything in their minds.

Modifié par iamweaver, 26 juillet 2012 - 05:25 .

[clarkusdarkus]

Legend of dragoon > Skyrim > ME3.......

[clarkusdarkus]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

I wonder if Alduin could eat all the Reapers...

Magic >Technology after all...

Gonna cost you 3 dragon souls to unlock and find out 

[Monster20862]

I love skyrim, and I love mass effect... The two games may both be RPGs but that's the only thing they have in common. It is impossible to compare these two games with any known logic.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Bethesda forums: ======> that-a-way.

You like Skyrim. Great. Do not presume to think that your opinion overrides everybody else on the planet's opinion.

Go away, trollboy.

[MassPredator]

Bioware care only about money, its not the KOTOR/ME1/DAO Bioware any more. What they should know from Skyrim is that u can make a lot of money from a singleplayer game if u care about ur fan base, that is what bethesda do, that´s skyrim best strenght.. it´s made for fans, please forgive my grammar, bye.

[MassStorm]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Bethesda forums: ======> that-a-way.

You like Skyrim. Great. Do not presume to think that your opinion overrides everybody else on the planet's opinion.

Go away, trollboy.

Wow.....well as far as i remember here people are still entitled to their opinion ....maybe is you who think that people that do not agree with you should not speak their mind. Why your opinion should matter more? who are you mr??? Why you refer to troll to someone giving his personal view?? If you don't like the discussion you may listen your own suggestion and go away from the thread yourself.....just saying

[Link Ashland 614]

Herr Igor wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Herr Igor wrote...
I've said it once and I will say it again.

ME3 is as much a RPG as Call Of Duty is one as well.

ME3 is focused on MULTIPLAYER.

The SP is there simply because they couldn't come up with a good enough reason to scrap it completely.

You're very mistaken. Call of Duty and Mass Effect have completely different priorities in what they want the audience to achieve, leading to two very different experiences.

I have played two matches of MP in total, to see what it was like. That is all. ME3 to me is solely the SP, and it's great.

I'm not saying that MULTIPLAYER is your personal focus. Of course not. Not every ME3 owner is a complete retard.

WHAT I AM SAYING is that the focus that BIOWARE decided to give to ME3 is on its MULTIPLAYER mode.

IT IS UNDENIABLE.

How many MULTIPLAYER DLCs and MULTIPLAYER EVENTS have you seem so far?

How many SP DLCs have we seem?


Just scroll to the top of your page and see for yourself how little focus BIOWARE applies to this idiotic MULTIPLAYER.

SP DLC takes months, while MP just a few weeks. The EC was a DLC and look how much it took. There's a big process to make the DLC.

Hell, some other games take at least 6 months to release a simple DLC with maps or stuff.

[Father_Jerusalem]

MassStorm wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Bethesda forums: ======> that-a-way.

You like Skyrim. Great. Do not presume to think that your opinion overrides everybody else on the planet's opinion.

Go away, trollboy.

Wow.....well as far as i remember here people are still entitled to their opinion ....maybe is you who think that people that do not agree with you should not speak their mind. Why your opinion should matter more? who are you mr??? Why you refer to troll to someone giving his personal view?? If you don't like the discussion you may listen your own suggestion and go away from the thread yourself.....just saying

Yeah, no. What part of this topic was an attempt to foster discussion on the part of the OP? Where does he say "In my opinion, Skyrim > ME3"? This was a pathetic attempt to be a troll and he's being called out on it.

Opinons are fine. Trolling is not. Come back when you know what the difference is.